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Media Create Sales: 02/23 - 03/02
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Segata Sanshiro
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Except I was speaking generally. I'm sorry if you misunderstood. If we're speaking only of Japan, you'd be fucking retarded to do anything but crank out *only* portable games, which I guess would make Square Enix the sly boots?Tideas said:
Die Squirrel Die
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Tideas said:
How do you define success or failure though? Outside of the development cost vs. revenue generated, which is a worldwide consideration, everything else is an unquantifiable opinion.
Also when talking about Capcom 'getting it', part of that is that they have an effective global strategy that allows for a game to underperform in one territory without the whole thing collapsing.
25. [NDS] Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time (Square Enix) - 6,600 / 187,000
Has anyone the first week shipment numbers for FFCC (DS version) at hand? *lol* Honestly if they hadn´t announced a Wii version the game most likely wouldn´t have been as ignored as it was imo. They should also move off this chara designs and try something abit more grown up, even "teenagers" would be an improvement. I know nearly 200k isn´t exactly a bad thing but it´s a big drop-off compared to the first FFCC DS game. Wasn´t it 200k DS and 50k for Wii (1st week shipment)?
Has anyone the first week shipment numbers for FFCC (DS version) at hand? *lol* Honestly if they hadn´t announced a Wii version the game most likely wouldn´t have been as ignored as it was imo. They should also move off this chara designs and try something abit more grown up, even "teenagers" would be an improvement. I know nearly 200k isn´t exactly a bad thing but it´s a big drop-off compared to the first FFCC DS game. Wasn´t it 200k DS and 50k for Wii (1st week shipment)?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Tideas said:
what should it have done
schuelma said:
That´s what I´ve found
First day sales
[NDS] Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time (Square Enix) - 58,000 (20%) / Bundle - 4,000 (40%)
[WII] Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Echoes of Time (Square Enix) - 14,000 (25%)
Must have been something around 300k for DSs regular and limited edition version and 56k for the Wii version then.
Oh I agree.JoshuaJSlone said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14496684&postcount=22
Yet, it's still leading it's market. 7 million plus in little over two years is quite handy in a slowing subcategory, home console or not.
JoshuaJSlone
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Psychotext said:That's on the last page.
Segata Sanshiro said:
I'm not sure which neverending argument is more heated: 30 vs 60 frames per second or 50 vs 100 posts per page.Stumpokapow said:
Okay. But the fact that Capcom develops a game knowing it won't be equally hot in all regions doesn't really contrast with They seem to be the only third party to really "get" the logistics of this gen. It just shows they're not completely Japan-centric.Tideas said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
JoshuaJSlone said:
well they're similar in that one side is clearly wrong and it's not the side i'm on *shakes fist*
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Aeana said:
hahahaha no surprise teh queen of achaic defends 50ppp!!!!
PepsimanVsJoe
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100 posts per page is overrated anyway. It's more dumb shit per page really.
Shin Sangoku Musou: Multi Raid with 296k copies sold becomes the best selling Musou game on the psp, outselling Dynasty Warriors which was a launch game in 2004
The game has also outsold Dynasty Warriors 5 (main entry - 223k LTD) on the ps2 and it's going to outsell Dynasty Warriors 5 (main entry - 363k LTD) on the ps3
The game has also outsold Dynasty Warriors 5 (main entry - 223k LTD) on the ps2 and it's going to outsell Dynasty Warriors 5 (main entry - 363k LTD) on the ps3
Damn, RE5 PS3 just gave the 360 version a huge beat down. Of course the 360 version will still sell well in the west. Makes SE SO4 decision even more hilarious following the release of RE5. 300+ guaranteed SE, and you decided against it!
PS3 software is starting to catch up and outsell 360 software in Europe now too...money hats can't make up for lost sales anymore.
PS3 software is starting to catch up and outsell 360 software in Europe now too...money hats can't make up for lost sales anymore.
Segata Sanshiro said:
Rather than SF4 per se, TvC bombed badly on the Wii. That's the real failure. (And worse, the game has no chance of getting out of Japan!)
The PSP is gaining ground again due to appealing franchises (and existing ones). Capcom should get most of the love for Monster Hunter but so should Square for Crisis Core and Dissidia, which have delivered 700k+ and shifted many new PSPs.
Now the PSP is the MH-lite and 'otaku' portable together with Square games. In the first column are Phantasy Star Portable, Musou Multi Raid, and maybe Tales: RM2 (that's a stretch), the second column has Idolmaster and the various Key ports, and in the third column is Crisis Core and Dissidia with the promise of a Kingdom Hearts, Parasite Eve 3 and Agito XIII.
BlackNMild2k1
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JoshuaJSlone said:
Aeana said:
Stumpokapow said:
But with Firefox & AutoPager I though the ppp argument was now irrelevant?PepsimanVsJoe said:
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Brandon F said:
are there even any nongames in the top 30?
Paracelsus
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gantz85 said:
Imagine a pile of shit with a 3D SCEJ logo on the top of it.
BlackNMild2k1
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FireFox Add-on - AutoPager°°ToMmY°° said:
Automatically loads the next page so that the page never ends till the thread does.
Start at page 1 post 1 (or any page and any post)and scroll all the way down to the end of the thread.
Infinite PPP FTW
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
But you have to change discs!Aeana said:
plank said:PSP PS3 selling big. Little by little small step are being taken, but soon Nintendo will go Third party, and be out of the console business for good.
Nintendo was as profitable, if not more profitable, than Sony's Game Division even during the Gamecube/PS2 years.
Google it.
RpgN
Junior Member
gantz85 said:
I'm estimating it has sold about 95k with MC charts. In any case, it's a 100k seller in the future on both charts (at least I hope it won't slow down and not make it, barely).
Its performance has been great so far with how sony undershipped it the first week and how it's still charting after 5 weeks. Absolutely no ads, nothing. It just passed by unnoticed. As for it sold enough to bring profit back, that's another matter. I have no idea myself...
RES5 is doing great, it's been a while since RES games charted with such a number.
Yakuza 3 has slowed down a bit, but it's still a good second week. Beating Yakuza 2's LTD is going to be a hard task.
7th dragon had such great first day numbers, not so the first week. Undershipped?
M&L3 is doing great too
RpgN said:
95,000 x 60 = 5.7 million
10,000 x 30 (assuming this is profit margin at best-rerelease) = 300,000
That's a total of US$6 million. I honestly don't know if Demon's Souls could have been made for that amount of money. There's the Asian version but Asia doesn't consume much as a region.
http://ameblo.jp/sinobi/entry-10222514340.html
Sinobi notes that Yakuza depreciated in very much the same rate as MGS4 did in its second week. I think Sinobi is guessing that given MGS4's sales trajectory, Yakuza 3 will end up at 520,000 copies sold.
There are a couple of interesting issues about RE5 in JP though.
(1) PS3 outsold 360 by 8:2, four times as much. This margin is not a historical high as Capcom's previous entry Devil May Cry 4 sold 6 times as much on the PS3 in Japan (see http://www.japan-gamecharts.com)
(2) Assuming that PS3's RE5 release follows a similar sales trajectory alongside MGS4 and Yakuza 3, we should see a significant sales decrease in the second week. This will probably chart it slightly below Yakuza 3 at 500K.
(3) However, 360 title sales for hit titles and multiplatform titles are also known to have larger second week drops than occurs for PS3 titles. How will second week for RE5 compare cross-platforms? Extremely interesting.
Also, RE5 and Yakuza 3 are poised to break the 500K barrier (at least they most probably will with a rerelease in teh future) LTD. This makes 3 games on the PS3 beyond the 500K mark
MGS4 is no longer so lonely up there.manueldelalas
Time Traveler
Seems RE5 will not sell as much as RE4 (PS2 + GCN)
RpgN
Junior Member
gantz85 said:
We can't really guess how much DS costed to make, so I'm not commenting on that with absolutely certain. It could have not costed much, but it has been in production for 3 years. Who knows?
Yeah, MGS4 won't be alone anymore. But a 500k for RES5 ps3 sounds hard. Previous RES games dropped rather quickly. RES4 PS2 sold 455k for reference.
Spiegel said:
Quite a feat. I didn't think it had it in it.
With DMC4, we took that as a reasonable outcome due to DMC3 being so low due to DMC2 backlash. I guess this could also mean that PS2 RE4 would've sold much more with a simultaneous GCN release (as if there were any doubt of that in the first place), which would make it a similar situation as DMC4's performance.
What about Tales? Does that mean that a PS3 TOV simultaneous release would've outsold the PS2 Tales of Symphonia? Hmmm.
RpgN said:
http://www.japan-gamecharts.com/ps3.php
320K current sales for PS3 RE5
500-320=180
180/500=36%
It would require RE5's first week to constitute 64% or less of the LTD for it to break 500K. If you look at that list some games in the top 10-30 do not have firstweek-LTD ratios above 60%. Others do not.
Coupled with the fact that RE4's firstweek-LTD on the PS2 was 46% (http://www.japan-gamecharts.com/ps2.php) I would think that a 500K RE5 on the PS3 is a relatively safe bet.
Even if it doesn't make 500K now, a rerelease will certainly seal its fate.
JoshuaJSlone
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How do you figure? The sum of PS3 and X360 RE5 first weeks (399K) is slightly greater than the sum of GCN and PS2 RE4 first weeks (381K). It could go either way from here.manueldelalas said:
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
JoshuaJSlone said:
Maybe he's assuming a sharper drop off consistent with non-leading platforms? I think it's a weird conclusion either way.
Interfectum
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Ouch.