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Media Create Sales: 04 - 10 Dec (HOLY ****ING CRAP edition)
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MasterMFauli
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AniHawk said:
1.) Yep, and neither OoT nor TWW were launch-games.
3.) Im glad it´s not the other way round.
4.) That´ll make GCN-sales diificult, but then we´ll see, if this is....the first Zelda-game with legs :lol
mckmas8808
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Okay so why doesn't anybody want to talk about the new rounded hardware sales?
Pureauthor
Member
Where's Lex Luthor when you need him?
If you bother to actually check out software sales, you'll see that they're nothing special, save the few stalwarts that have actually turned the Japanese gaming industry upside down.
The fact that we do get those 'popular' 2D brands is a good thing, since it makes the system that much greater, but they are, quite frankly, insignificant to the DS's success.
Tim the Wiz
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farnham said:
Shut up, you make too much sense. GAF needs drama, and nothing spells drama like Zelda bomba in Japan. It'll be cool to see who eats crow on Zelda sales in time to come, but hopefully Nintendo don't undership too badly, otherwise this could be another FF3 situation in the making; chances are it'll turn out like most launch games and go on to sell a million by mid-next year.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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Jasoncheng said:
What ? I expected a lot more. And the Nintendo DS...Bah, you know: it is just the begin.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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AniHawk said:
Do you believe me if I say that I've found the game, but not the Wii ?
Pureauthor
Member
It's not one of the really big weeks yet though.
Not that I think the 360 can really sustain this, but who knows.
Nintendo encouraging slavery confirmed.
Not that I think the 360 can really sustain this, but who knows.
Nintendo encouraging slavery confirmed.
__Andrea__
Member
Zelda #17 
Maybe it's sold out? And... uhm... yeah, that :/
Maybe it's sold out? And... uhm... yeah, that :/
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
LOCK said:
Yeah, you're right. Zelda will sell in the long term, like most of Nintendo's games. Before say that it bombed or something, it is better to wait the new year. Clear, Zelda is by far more powerful in USA and Europe.
gamergirly
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Given the page extension, where are the hardware #s?
Magicpaint
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gamergirly said:
Not yet out.
LiveFromKyoto
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Scotch said:
There is nothing in the world more obnoxious than hardcore Nintendo fans revelling in the only validation they will ever receive in life.
Pureauthor
Member
*coughs*
Annoying as they are, they're hardly the sole reason this thread sucks.
Annoying as they are, they're hardly the sole reason this thread sucks.
wonderfuldays
Member
I wonder Zelda GC version sold more than Wii version....
Could it be?
Could it be?
Why is everyone so concerned with Zelda when the greater tragedy is the limited sales of Blue Dragon (which were good for a 360 game, but bad overall).
Zelda is going to sell the world over and games like Wii Sports will make the money that Nintendo could sink right back into Zelda (you know it's going nowhere). The future of Zelda is not in danger and Nintendo is making loads of money. There is NOTHING to be upset over.
Something like Blue Dragon, though, is a bit sad. Completely different situation.
Zelda is going to sell the world over and games like Wii Sports will make the money that Nintendo could sink right back into Zelda (you know it's going nowhere). The future of Zelda is not in danger and Nintendo is making loads of money. There is NOTHING to be upset over.
Something like Blue Dragon, though, is a bit sad. Completely different situation.
LiveFromKyoto
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Pureauthor said:
The Xbox guys are saying mean things about the Wii and DS, but it doesn't quite have the same nerdpocalyptic edge.
LiveFromKyoto
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jarrod said:
My Every Extend Extra desktop wallpaper and I thumb our noses at you, sir. (How did I wind up homophobic, though?)
BenjaminBirdie
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dark10x said:
Why is it sad, exactly? Sad like "Oh, 'War At Home' got renewed and 'Arrested Development' got cancelled"? Blue Dragon is clearly Shaggy 2 Dope and will sell really well when it hits the US. If one region can't find it in their hearts to play a great game that by all impressions appeals well to their market, then well, that's not sad. It's a head scratcher, but whatever.
Dead Rising sold, what, twelve copies in Japan and still made Capcom money.
Sad would be seeing Japanese developers ignore the global market and not develop great games for every console. Thankfully this has been avoided and no console will go JRPG hungry.
No sadness. Only smiles.
dark10x said:
It's just the two opposite sides of the coin.
Commonly a game made by Sakaguchi + Toriyama +Uematsu selling 80k units in the first week would be considered a major bomba but since the game is on Xbox360 which is nearly dead in that market it's considered a positive sign.
Nevertheless next week will be important to tell if this is just the spike of a week or if the game has potential to make better numbers and push the interest around the console.
It's interesting to note that BD has made decent numbers with the bundle but only a fraction of the existing userbase (which is already really small) has bought the game probably meaning that the current userbase is a niche with different tastes compared to the typical japanese gamers and a small group of people (probably Sakaguchi and Toriyama fans) have decided to buy the console this week just for that game.
DeaconKnowledge
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dark10x said:
Not one that wasn't expected though.
Blue Dragon is Mario 64 all over again.
Pureauthor
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dark10x said:
It's not really sad or a tragedy for two important reasons:
1) We're discussing the fate of a videogame. Not Africa or something.
2) Anyone who didn't see this coming a mile off is wearing blinkers.
Ynos Yrros
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If hardware sales are anything like the rounded ones posted, then Japan PS3 land confirmed.
They are buying all PS3s available, even when there are absolutely no games they want, I will never understand that mentality.
They are buying all PS3s available, even when there are absolutely no games they want, I will never understand that mentality.
Not necessarily aimed at any specific game, but when discussing the success and failure of a videogame, you must remember that we are discussing the future of those who spent years of their life working on it. It's not "just a game"...
Of course, I suppose Mistwalker really has nothing to worry about as they could succeed on another platform AND MS funded their latest games anyways.
With smaller developers (lacking in big names), though, it is a real concern. Wouldn't you say?Pureauthor
Member
Ynos Yrros said:
They're buying all the DSes available, and there are games they want on that thing! How about that?
Pureauthor
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dark10x said:Not necessarily aimed at any specific game, but when discussing the success and failure of a videogame, you must remember that we are discussing the future of those who spent years of their life working on it. It's not "just a game"...
Of course, I suppose Mistwalker really has nothing to worry about as they could succeed on another platform AND MS funded their latest games anyways.
Well, it's kinda hard to distinguish that you were talking about 'the developers will suffer with such sales' as opposed to 'the game I like isn't selling well'.
I agree that Sakaguchi should be rewarded for his efforts, but that calls into question his decision to develop such a Japanese-esque game for a system the Japanese have flatly rejected thus far.
BenjaminBirdie said:
Well...are you really sure there's a market for Japanese RPGs among the US 360 owners though? I mean, I can't really picture many Americans who are into Japanese RPGs to buy a 360 for that genre, so to speak. Especially when the highest-selling games for the platform are titles like Call of Duty 2, Gears of War, GRAW and so on. Are there any examples of typical Japanese games selling well on 360 in the US yet? Or even games with a similar target group and/or style? Kameo is the closest thing I can think of myself, even though it's not really a good example.
DeaconKnowledge
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Ynos Yrros said:
I'll explain the mentality to you:
Sony fanboys wanting Sony systems. Period.
Don't think for a second that Japan will continue to be "Sony Land" if Sony cannot capitalize with games.
Pureauthor
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Snaku said:
No, I think it was something like 5million sold.
LiveFromKyoto
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Kiriku said:
Final Fantasy XI and Enchanted Arms both sold well on 360, and Blue Dragon's been receiving a fair amount of hype and positive word of mouth. I think it'll do fairly well in the west.
BenjaminBirdie
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Kiriku said:
Does it matter? There is a solid set of 1,000,000 hardcore users who will buy any AAA game for the system (that doesn't come in a box the shape of a horse), no questions asked. We were discussing this on Flashback Monday (PGR3), but it's reaping the benefits of hooking your hardcore launch users with an amazing experience that has managed to sustain itself. The core userbase who digs the 360 experience will buy pretty much anything that's proven itself an exemplary experience, whether its a JRPG, a Snow Shooter, a WRPG, a Zombie Killing Spree or whateverz.
I'd be stunned if it didn't break a mil in the US.
Frankfurter
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I really really hope that Zelda has some legs, although it doesn't look that well :/
DeaconKnowledge
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BenjaminBirdie said:
I wonder if in three years we'll see threads that say "X title will only sell to XBOX fans" a la the GameCube threads of yesteryear. Sure seems that way.
Kurosaki Ichigo
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Just looked at the releases this week...Frankfurter said:
Man, my tales and zelda are going to dissapear next week from top30 :/
BenjaminBirdie
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DeaconKnowledge said:
And when Blue Dragon sells as well as Dead Rising the phrase will have no logical coherence and make no tautological sense?
"Meh. Animal House: Special Edition is only going to appeal to DVD fans."
PantherLotus said:
Sorry Panther, but your marketshare comparisons after a week of sales is ludicrous at best. The fact that you are ridiculing someone for calling you out is assinine - you are the one that needs to GTFO if you can't at least make reasonable analysis of the sales numbers.
LiveFromKyoto said:
Right right, forgot about those games, thanks.
BenjaminBirdie said:
I dunno, I just think Blue Dragon is straying pretty far from the usual big-selling games on 360 in terms of style and appeal, much more than any other game for the console (except for Viva, I guess) which makes me kind of sceptic. Especially if you're talking 1 million copies sold. But I agree though...at the same time, it seems like 360 owners buy anything new that comes out if it has enough hype, good reviews, hell even good demo versions I bet. Except for some games...like Viva.
Anyway, will be interesting for sure to see if Blue Dragon flies in the US (no pun intended, of course).
You people say the stupidest things sometimes. "Zelda was never popular in Japan", "Metroid was never popular in Japan".
Zelda has had several of its games sell over millions of copies, and Metroid had one game sell over a million. I think any million seller qualifies as being popular. You know what a small percent of franchises constantly sell a million????
Zelda has had several of its games sell over millions of copies, and Metroid had one game sell over a million. I think any million seller qualifies as being popular. You know what a small percent of franchises constantly sell a million????