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Media Create Sales: 04 - 10 Dec (HOLY ****ING CRAP edition)
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soundwave05
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AniHawk said:
:lol
smallsoft said:
That's just it, though. Simply saying the handheld market is different from the console market, while true, isn't the whole picture. The GBA still rules the handheld market. The DS, quite literally, created an entirely different market that previously didn't buy handhelds. Nintendo is trying to do the same thing with the Wii. I'm not saying they can do it, but that is what they're trying. If they succeed, all the normal arguments and criteria simply won't apply.
soundwave05
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smallsoft said:
Nope. But what has happened is that because of Nintendogs and Brain Training, the DS has built a ungodly, monsterous userbase.
And what that's done is bring about ... DRAGON QUEST IX going to the DS. Just a little thing that ... y'know. No big deal. Oh and Final Fantasy XII: Revevant Wing and some other little stuff like that. It's no Trusty Bell or Lost Planet, but somehow I think Nintendo will manage.
No Nintendogs, Brain Training = no Dragon Quest IX IMO. Infact, I think the PSP probably would be the no.1 handheld worldwide. It was outselling the DS by significant margins in North America, Japan, and Europe prior to the "Easter 2005" debacle when Nintendo brought out Nintendogs in Japan.
DefectiveReject
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This thread is going to be used for some comedy quotes inabout a years time.
Ive bookmarked it along side the PSP/DS threads I have that leave a few people highly embarassed.
Regardless of units available Nintendo sold the lot, and can sell more. Why? Because the demand is there. In the UK on eBay Wiis are going for more than premium Xbox360s are. Link
The demand is there. People want it, the tides have turned 6m Wiis will be in peoples hands by March. 5mths after Launch.
You and striek have provided 2 of the greatest quotes ever to grace these hallowed pages of GAF.
2m isnt good for a NEW console after a year. And you think 500,000 sold units in USA is decent? When a decent number would be 1m or 750,000 (or where they just the downgraded estimates from analysts??)
Ive bookmarked it along side the PSP/DS threads I have that leave a few people highly embarassed.
Regardless of units available Nintendo sold the lot, and can sell more. Why? Because the demand is there. In the UK on eBay Wiis are going for more than premium Xbox360s are. Link
The demand is there. People want it, the tides have turned 6m Wiis will be in peoples hands by March. 5mths after Launch.
jimbo said:
You and striek have provided 2 of the greatest quotes ever to grace these hallowed pages of GAF.
2m isnt good for a NEW console after a year. And you think 500,000 sold units in USA is decent? When a decent number would be 1m or 750,000 (or where they just the downgraded estimates from analysts??)
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
jimbo said:
MS is predicting that X360 will reach 1m units sold by end of 2006...so it will probably be less than 1m after 12 months on sale. That's respectable but far short of the kinds of numbers DSL is doing and far higher than in any other European territory. It's sales have not been great while there has been no console competition around.
Will be interesting to see what impact PS3/Wii has on X360 sales now.
jimbo said:
:lol oh dear
DefectiveReject
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so good he had to tell us 3 timessmallsoft said:
PSP fails because DS won.......and the quality of games on PSP even with Quality control isn't very good!
soundwave05
Member
DefectiveReject said:
B ... bu ...but DS only sells to little children.
With PSP my emo girlfriend can send me a wild goosechase around the city's seedy yet cooly lit nightclub scene. It's uber-cool!
I used to think the GameCube was the worst marketed system ever, but I think Sony is hellbent on writing the new textbook on it. Be careful .... white is coming.
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
smallsoft said:
which is what is happening
smallsoft said:
we have
DefectiveReject said:
Of course not, because you insist on ignoring the fact the 360 costs $400. There has NEVER been a $400 console that's sold as fast or as many consoles as the 360. Ever. Period. It wouldn't be good if it was $299, or $199, or even $250.....which are the ONLY price points ANY console has EVER hit those kind of numbers.
But no, price does not matter. So you are right. You win. The 360 is a failure world-wide. MS should just pack their bags and leave.
soundwave05
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Don't worry, after Blue Dragon wears off in a week, the XBots will go back to avoiding Media Create threads like the plague and things can get back to normal.
One 50k week ... lets bust out the champange :lol
One 50k week ... lets bust out the champange :lol
Scalemail Ted
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I can't seriously believe its really almost to 700 posts without HW numbers. :-/
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
jimbo said:
who gives a ****! MS chose that strategy. It doesn't suddenly make the sales incredible just because they decided to make a $400 console.
jimbo said:
but it isn't $299, or $199, or even $250 because it isn't possible to create a console like X360 for those prices.
if I made a $5000 console and it sold 500k worldwide that doesn't make it an incredible success just because no $5000 console has ever sold so well worldwide.
Conrad Link
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Is there lots of jiggling in Blue Dragon?
imastalker co.
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since this is an official sales thread, can i please see a chart for PS2 vs DS worldwide, beginning at each systems very first launch, up until however old DS is right now.
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
when the xbots descend on a media create thread, it really goes to shit
MrSardonic said:
Point taken. But in that case isn't it also Nintendo's fault that it's currently behind by about 5 million units to the 360? After all it was their strategy to launch now. And if 6-7 million units sold in the world currently is not a success what is 2 million units sold? An even bigger bomb right?
Me ignoring MS one year head start and saying it's currently kicking the Wii's ass after one month of sales, is just as retarded as ignoring price difference. After all why not ignore time difference if you can ignore price difference? Time is money after all.
lochnesssnowman
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This thread is a train-wreck 
What?
What?
lochnesssnowman said:This thread is a train-wreck
What?
Oh you didnt know, well here was shiggy's big inspiration...http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=21162
focus on the last few paragraphs, yeah I love it when companies pass me up to design products for japanese housewives :lol
DefectiveReject
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its been posted in an ioi topic somewhere in the last few daysimastalker co. said:
imastalker co.
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thanks for the heads up.DefectiveReject said:
DefectiveReject
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Price means jack shit also you guys
iPods sell by the bucketload and theyre more overpriced than anything. No matter what the price, if people want it, theyll buy it. And in the UK a 360 is actually priced just £20 above a Wii. You can even get a 360 and a game for £199.
I cant believe someone is arguing against the fact that Mario, Duckhunt and Tetris arent the biggest selling games period? Why the hell would I use iois crappy site as a reason for that?
Youre saying that Wii after selling 2m units in 3 weeks is a bomb? Joke account confirmed.
I know a lot of idiots from dopey-ages are trying to have fun here lately, but man you guys beat them.
360 has sold a meagre 6m units in a year with NO competition. The 360 from hereon now has the PS3 and Wii to contend with for next (And NEW) gen sales!
iPods sell by the bucketload and theyre more overpriced than anything. No matter what the price, if people want it, theyll buy it. And in the UK a 360 is actually priced just £20 above a Wii. You can even get a 360 and a game for £199.
I cant believe someone is arguing against the fact that Mario, Duckhunt and Tetris arent the biggest selling games period? Why the hell would I use iois crappy site as a reason for that?
jimbo said:
Youre saying that Wii after selling 2m units in 3 weeks is a bomb? Joke account confirmed.
I know a lot of idiots from dopey-ages are trying to have fun here lately, but man you guys beat them.
360 has sold a meagre 6m units in a year with NO competition. The 360 from hereon now has the PS3 and Wii to contend with for next (And NEW) gen sales!
Scalemail Ted
Member
farnham said:
What constitutes a "major" shipment I wonder?
ionicbluebird
Member
nv
DefectiveReject said:
You my friend clearly have a reading comprehension problem. If you will take the time to read my post I am saying how RETARDED it would be for me to ignore the fact that it's only a month worth of sales and say something like that. But it's ok, I know, it's hard to keep up. You get an A for effort.
lochnesssnowman
Member
smallsoft said:
I don't think he means to 'pass up' the existing gamer base in favour of a new market - just to expand the market, whilst keeping the existing base, into new areas so that untapped groups, such as Japanese housewives, might want to jump in.
You could turn your statement on its head and put it from a 'Japanese housewive' perspective - "yeah I love it how games companies have passed me up to design products for teenage males for the past 20 years'. Obviously, a bit extreme and not at all true, but the same could be said of what you said. The Wii has plenty of traditional stuff in the pipeline.
Time will tell - no predictions from me folks - whether their strategy is a good one or not.
i agree.soundwave05 said:
the key to wii's real success is in the hands of nintendo and their ability to create more system selling games like wii sports. you don't have to like these games but to underestimate their importance would be a mistake.
it's sad games like zelda are having such a hard time. i mean look tales of destiny, its second week is under 35k and has to be one of the biggest drop offs ever! also, just look at yakuza 2. while its sales are good, it's only relatively so. putting its sales into perspective, given the cost of the game and how it would've easily been a million+ seller 5 years ago, it just continues to prove the japanese market has changed dramatically.
look at ps3 sw sales, they're non-existent, and ridge racer, new versions of the game are bombing in an unbelievable way!
imo, whether wii becomes the dominant console this gen is still undecided, but over this last year what has become plainly obvious is many people are tiring of playing the same things over and over again with better graphics. now, some the hardcore screams, no!!!!! look at things like gears of war, viva pinata, motorstorm, etc, etc, they're new!!!! but this view continues to miss the point, because these games aren't new, they're more of the same with a few tweaks.
i'm not saying there's no value in these titles, there is to those who enjoy them, but they won't expand the market or take it to the success of the ps2/xbox/gc gen and will only appeal to a declining number of people. i mean, i love twilight princess, but i'd be wrong to believe its not just a perfect version of the current zelda formula and compared to wii sports has limited appeal.
depends on who you ask, certain people will tell you it's abysmal while others will say it's doing well.jayboy said:
I think they up to the end of november they may have sold
3.8 million in the US
2 million in Europe
180k in Japan
500k in the rest of the world
so maybe around 6.5 million, probably around 8 to 9 million by the end of the year
forgot about canada, maybe another 500k?
imastalker co.
Banned
i can't find that ioi thread. can someone please hook it up with that chart?
one for japan only would also be great.
one for japan only would also be great.
DefectiveReject
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jimbo said:
How did i read that wrong?
You get a c- for lack of effort!