Media Create Sales: 08/04 - 08/10

gantz85 said:
This fanboy spin is terrifying. How about PS3's June NPD advantage erasing well.. every single stream cross that X360 had? Sad and pathetic.
Serious business!
 
Stumpokapow said:
Tip for continuing to make charts:
- JPGs are for photographs/anything where details are not at all important.
- PNGs are for graphs/diagrams/screenshots of text/anything where small details are important.
- GIFs should only be used for animations.


Yeah look I am doing my best here. I am already breaking a sweat.
 
Yoshi said:
BTW: Why aren't there YTD/LTD numbers for consoles in the original posting anymore?
Cheesemeister and his parser has moved to Japan and he's unavailable when the data is released. He has mentioned that he should be able to supply the OP content to someone else though. I can do it if no one else will, but since Media-Create's releases happen in the middle of the night in my time I wouldn't be able to post it until several hours later.
 
BishopLamont said:
Why do you expect the PS3 to keep dropping, it's base level has been 10k~.

From April 7 to June 9th(MGS4 week), the average was 8,867- lowest being 7,438, highest 10,856-and only 2 weeks out of 9 above 10,000.

I am not expecting it to, but it's also not out of the question that it CAN'T go that low again either. I am just saying one week doesn't constitute deffinitely bottoming out either. That's why I am more interested in next week's sales. This week was expected for anyone tracking.

Does it have a significant release over the next month?

Stumpokapow said:
Oh, I wasn't being critical, I was honestly giving you a tip.


I know, I was joking.
 
jimbo said:
Does it have a significant release over the next month?

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Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 09 Eigoban

More like no, although it'll be fun to see Sonata PS3 sales.
 
Man i wish the 360 would outsell the PS3 like this by a substantial (all things considered) margin for like 2 months in Japan, if that were to happen you figure that it'd dawn on SCEI "hey we actually need to release games catered to our own market to sell systems" :lol. Seriously wtf are those guys doing over there, not releasing anything of their own, not securing exclusives, i mean i know the Wii has already won JP but ffs at least do something.
 
el Diablo said:
Man i wish the 360 would outsell the PS3 like this by a substantial (all things considered) margin for like 2 months in Japan, if that were to happen you figure that it'd dawn on SCEI "hey we actually need to release games catered to our own market to sell systems" :lol. Seriously wtf are those guys doing over there, not releasing anything of their own, not securing exclusives, i mean i know the Wii has already won JP but ffs at least do something.
There's not much you can do when your console is DOA.
 
el Diablo said:
Man i wish the 360 would outsell the PS3 like this by a substantial (all things considered) margin for like 2 months in Japan, if that were to happen you figure that it'd dawn on SCEI "hey we actually need to release games catered to our own market to sell systems" :lol. Seriously wtf are those guys doing over there, not releasing anything of their own, not securing exclusives, i mean i know the Wii has already won JP but ffs at least do something.

I think with Vesperia's boost, FFXIII's news as well as Last Remnant, Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean 4 lined up for 360, SCEI have probably quite a clear understanding about their situation. Short and sweet -- they are fucked and stand to lose a lot with no known key titles between now and December. I don't know what they'll do, or if they'll do anything at all.
 
el Diablo said:
Man i wish the 360 would outsell the PS3 like this by a substantial (all things considered) margin for like 2 months in Japan, if that were to happen you figure that it'd dawn on SCEI "hey we actually need to release games catered to our own market to sell systems" :lol. Seriously wtf are those guys doing over there, not releasing anything of their own, not securing exclusives, i mean i know the Wii has already won JP but ffs at least do something.

Quoted for so much goddamn truth.

Valkyria is a good start, but unfortunately that seems to be the limit of the "Japan-centric" titles they were aimed for.

Poor show indeed.
 
gantz85 said:
This fanboy spin is terrifying. How about PS3's June NPD advantage erasing well.. every single stream cross that X360 had? Sad and pathetic.

You mean that 5.6 million lead that isn't going anywhere or that erasing of last Nov and Dec NPD that hasn't gone anywhere, or you mean the advantage that has only gone up in the last 12 months. No sorry, every single stream has certainly not crossed by a long shot. Sad and pathetic is right.
 
el Diablo said:
Man i wish the 360 would outsell the PS3 like this by a substantial (all things considered) margin for like 2 months in Japan, if that were to happen you figure that it'd dawn on SCEI "hey we actually need to release games catered to our own market to sell systems" :lol. Seriously wtf are those guys doing over there, not releasing anything of their own, not securing exclusives, i mean i know the Wii has already won JP but ffs at least do something.
Wii dominating the market hasn't acted as much of an impetus, so why would the 360?

It's amazing to me that most of Sony's internal development on the PS3 thus far has come from their Western first-party developers.

Thanks for the Fatal Frame 4 numbers. Like Kurosaki Ichigo said, if it shows any legs at all it could possibly beat the LTD of FF2 & FF3.

Now how about a concrete US/European release date!
 
Tron 2.0 said:
Wii dominating the market hasn't acted as much of an impetus, so why would the 360?

Thanks for the Fatal Frame 4 numbers. Like Hcoregamer00 said, if it shows any legs at all it could possibly beat the LTD of FF2 & FF3.

Now how about a concrete US/European release date!

What? I never said that.
 
Jtyettis said:
You mean that 5.6 million lead that isn't going anywhere or that erasing of last Nov and Dec NPD that hasn't gone anywhere, or you mean the advantage that has only gone up in the last 12 months. No sorry, every single stream has certainly not crossed by a long shot. Sad and pathetic is right.

I was being lighthearted. Don't say "sad and pathetic".

Jtyettis said:
You mean that 5.6 million lead that isn't going anywhere or that erasing of last Nov and Dec NPD that hasn't gone anywhere, or you mean the advantage that has only gone up in the last 12 months. No sorry, every single stream has certainly not crossed by a long shot. Sad and pathetic is right.

You need to get more fun out of life.

Jtyettis said:
You mean that 5.6 million lead that isn't going anywhere or that erasing of last Nov and Dec NPD that hasn't gone anywhere, or you mean the advantage that has only gone up in the last 12 months. No sorry, every single stream has certainly not crossed by a long shot. Sad and pathetic is right.

Serious business!
 
Cosmonaut X said:
Firstly, the Wii version was a spin-off, albeit hastily re-worked as something closer to a main entry after it was clear what was happening with the system. Secondly, its first week figures handily exceeded ToV - something like 60k more - and its since gone on to sell over 200k.


So wait, the game was originally not going to contain past characters and locations? Ad still, the game was released on a system with a userbase and popularity much greater than that of 360's so I would have expected it to do much better than just 60k.

I dunno, it just feels like there was more of an "explosion" for ToV than there was with ToS2
 
Paracelsus said:
More like no, although it'll be fun to see Sonata PS3 sales.
2ch has told me great things will come from Cross Edge. It's the PS3 JRPG.

I don't think anyone is expecting much from a late port of Eternal Sonata. Though it should beat the 360 numbers simply due to a larger userbase and lack of competition.
 
icecream said:
2ch has told me great things will come from Cross Edge. It's the PS3 JRPG.

I don't think anyone is expecting much from a late port of Eternal Sonata. Though it should beat the 360 numbers simply due to a larger userbase and lack of competition.

Why is Cross Edge considered THE rpg?
 
icecream said:
2ch has told me great things will come from Cross Edge. It's the PS3 JRPG.

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Disgaea numbers in the best case scenario. Period.

Though it should beat the 360 numbers simply due to a larger userbase and lack of competition.

It should?

If it wasn't for the fact I don't give a flying penis about ES, I'd bet a one month ban that it will not.
 
Famitsu monthly top 20. June 30 - July 27

1. NDS Dragon Quest V 864503 / NEW
2. PS2 Persona 4 264319 / NEW
3. PSP Gundam Battle Universe 193378 / NEW

4. WII Wii Fit 103971 / 2365304
5. NDS Daigasso! Band Brothers DX 103446 / 225629
6. PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 15 86950 / NEW
7. NDS Derby Stallion DS 75170 / 222328
8. WII Mario Kart Wii 74246 / 1600910
9. NDS Densetsu no Stafi: Taiketsu! Dire Kaizokudan 68570 / NEW
10. PS3 Initial D: Extreme Stage 67221 / NEW

11. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 G 51701 / 2352206
12. PSP Eiyuu Densetsu: Sora no Kiseki the 3rd 48737 / NEW
13. NDS Nanashi no Game 48705 / NEW

14. WII Super Mario Stadium: Family Baseball 48015 / 134257
15. WII Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World 47035 / 198173
16. WII Wii Sports 45907 / 3055599
17. PS3 Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriot 45216 / 621653
18. PS3 Tears to Tiara: Kakan no Daichi 42319 / NEW
19. WII Resident Evil 0 41304 / NEW
20. PS3 SIREN: New Translation 36341 / NEW



Famitsu July 28 - Aug 3

1. PSP Phantasy Star Portable 329455 / NEW
2. NSD Rhythm Tengoku Gold 227718 / NEW

3. NDS Dragon Quest V 104910 / 969413
4. PS3 Soul Calibur IV 74402 / NEW
5. PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 15 39932 / 126882
6. 360 Soul Calibur IV 34791 / NEW
7. WII Zero: Tsukihami no Kamen 29869 / NEW

8. WII Wii Fit 29869 / 2395173
9. NDS Dokidoki Majo Shinpan! 2 19574 / NEW
10. WII Wario Land: Shake It! 18105 / 42396
11. WII Mario Kart Wii 17909 / 1618819
12. PSP Gundam Battle Universe 17505 / 210883
13. WII Wii Sports 11512 / 3067111
14. PS3 SIREN: New Translation 11129 / 47470
15. PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2 G 10753 / 2362959
16. NDS Densetsu no Stafi: Taiketsu! Dire Kaizokudan 10705 / 79275
17. NDS Taiko Drum Master 2 10405 / 261909
18. NDS Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! DS Flame Rumble Hyper - Moeyo Mirai 10397 / 38129
19. NDS Mame Goma 2: Uchi no Ko ga Ichiban! 10283 / NEW
20. PS2 Persona 4 10109 / 274428

donny, will you fill in the rest?
 
Paracelsus said:
If it wasn't for the fact I don't give a flying penis about ES, I'd bet a one month ban that it will not.
With a weak 43K opening week on 360? The PS3 version beating it would not surprise me at all.
 
Jokeropia said:
Cheesemeister and his parser has moved to Japan and he's unavailable when the data is released. He has mentioned that he should be able to supply the OP content to someone else though. I can do it if no one else will, but since Media-Create's releases happen in the middle of the night in my time I wouldn't be able to post it until several hours later.
Better late than not at all I'd say?
 
Tron 2.0 said:
Wii dominating the market hasn't acted as much of an impetus, so why would the 360?

It's amazing to me that most of Sony's internal development on the PS3 thus far has come from their Western first-party developers.

You'd assume, and i'm probably giving Sony more credit than they deserve, that if the 360 were to start creeping up on them that they'd be forced to act since they wouldn't be hands down the HD console on the JP market. They can overlook the Wii since they can always say "well we're targeting different markets", not something you'd assume they could do with the 360 since it'd be targeting the EXACT same audience. Who knows though, Sony hasn't made any decisions thus far this gen that have made any sense to me whatsoever.

And yeah if you'd told me before i bought my PS3 that the overwhelming majority of support for the PS3 would have come from western devs then i NEVER would have bought the thing at $599. Guess i made a $599 bet and lost :lol
 
el Diablo said:
You'd assume, and i'm probably giving Sony more credit than they deserve, that if the 360 were to start creeping up on them that they'd be forced to act since they wouldn't be hands down the HD console on the JP market. They can overlook the Wii since they can always say "well we're targeting different markets", not something you'd assume they could do with the 360 since it'd be targeting the EXACT same audience. Who knows though, Sony hasn't made any decisions thus far this gen that have made any sense to me whatsoever.

And yeah if you'd told me before i bought my PS3 that the overwhelming majority of support for the PS3 would have come from western devs then i NEVER would have bought the thing at $599. Guess i made a $599 bet and lost :lol

That definitely has some truth to it, Sony onwers are use to the fact that Sony consoles were the home of Japanese games. While it is not a bad thing to have Western games, it is irritating as HELL that they are focusing on Western games at the COST OF JAPANESE GAMES.

The XBOX 360 has a good western lineup and the Japanese lineup is getting much better. Why does Sony have to target the same market, when they could have differentiated itself by a decent lineup of west and east, like the 360 is right now.
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
That definitely has some truth to it, Sony onwers are use to the fact that Sony consoles were the home of Japanese games. While it is not a bad thing to have Western games, it is irritating as HELL that they are focusing on Western games at the COST OF JAPANESE GAMES.

The XBOX 360 has a good western lineup and the Japanese lineup is getting much better. Why does Sony have to target the same market, when they could have differentiated itself by a decent lineup of west and east, like the 360 is right now.
SCE divisions are allocated budgets individually. Any lack of support is the fault of SCEJ alone, Uncharted, Killzone, Rockstar deals, whatever aren't stealing any money from what could be Japanese third party exclusives/first party games.
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
That definitely has some truth to it, Sony onwers are use to the fact that Sony consoles were the home of Japanese games. While it is not a bad thing to have Western games, it is irritating as HELL that they are focusing on Western games at the COST OF JAPANESE GAMES.

The XBOX 360 has a good western lineup and the Japanese lineup is getting much better. Why does Sony have to target the same market, when they could have differentiated itself by a decent lineup of west and east, like the 360 is right now.

Seriously? I've been saying this for what seems like ages and all i ever get for it is being accused of being a Japanophile, a troll, or an idiot :lol. Yes, Uncharted is a great game, but no it's not the type of game alot of people were looking for when they bought a PS3. Give me games like Uncharted and a steady dose of JP games as well and i'll gladly go back to being the contented gamer like i was with my PS1+2.

It's like my thoughts coming out of someone elses mouth, disturbing yet so satisfying to read.
 
Hcoregamer00 said:
That definitely has some truth to it, Sony onwers are use to the fact that Sony consoles were the home of Japanese games. While it is not a bad thing to have Western games, it is irritating as HELL that they are focusing on Western games at the COST OF JAPANESE GAMES.

The XBOX 360 has a good western lineup and the Japanese lineup is getting much better. Why does Sony have to target the same market, when they could have differentiated itself by a decent lineup of west and east, like the 360 is right now.

Do you think that you can have the same line up of a three-year-old console with a two-
year-old one?

The best one can hope for is that (aside from exclusive projects) it won't have to miss many games, since they'll be ported sometime along the way. Devs seems to not realize PS3 is in a rush to catch up with the competitors, they treat it as if it's living its own gen, with no rush or anything.

Think about it: Blue Dragon + Sonata (2nd 360): Valkyria + Sonata (2nd PS3). Lost Odyssey (beginning of 3rd 360). WKC (beginning of 3rd PS3) (late port of TLR is another story).

Two out of the three 360 Japanese games approaching in end of the third year are probably going on PS3 one year later, in the end of its own third year. This is waiting indeed.

Who knows if this TGS will be all Ueda-talk and Port-a-ton.

It doesn't matter, it is the last "resort".

"resort", because it's meaningless, Japan won't care either way.
 
Paracelsus said:
Do you think that you can have the same line up of a three-year-old console with a two-
year-old one?

The best one can hope for is that (aside from exclusive projects) it won't have to miss many games, since they'll be ported sometime along the way. Devs seems to not realize PS3 is in a rush to catch up with the competitors, they treat it as if it's living its own gen, with no rush or anything.

Think about it: Blue Dragon + Sonata (2nd 360): Valkyria + Sonata (2nd PS3). Lost Odyssey (beginning of 3rd 360). WKC (beginning of 3rd PS3) (late port of TLR is another story).

Two out of the three 360 Japanese games approaching in end of the third year are probably going on PS3 one year later, in the end of its own third year. This is waiting indeed.

Who knows if this TGS will be all Ueda-talk and Port-a-ton.

It doesn't matter, it is the last "resort".

"resort", because it's meaningless, Japan won't care either way.
I don't think this is really all that much of a big conspiracy between publishers to keep PS3 a year behind 360. Simply, it's just the way things have happened. Japanese developers aren't the most tech savvy this gen, a multiplatform game (especially an RPG) with PS3's complex architecture is really too much to ask at the same time as a 360 game.

Why not just release it on 360, perhaps pick up some MS time-exclusivity cash on the way, and then release the PS3 one later to double dip(and that's the time the PS3 one would be finished anyway)? It makes too much sense.
 
Sage00 said:
I don't think this is really all that much of a big conspiracy between publishers to keep PS3 a year behind 360. Simply, it's just the way things have happened. Japanese developers aren't the most tech savvy this gen, a multiplatform game (especially an RPG) with PS3's complex architecture is really too much to ask at the same time as a 360 game.

Why not just release it on 360, perhaps pick up some MS time-exclusivity cash on the way, and then release the PS3 one later to double dip(and that's the time the PS3 one would be finished anyway)? It makes too much sense.

Infact there's no conspiracy. It's just the way things are, although with most future releases, now that both engines are ready and running, we'll see simultaneous releases.

The difference between MS and Sony is that the first one actually threw a couple of Jrpgs during the first years, thanks to MW. SCEJ isn't doing a damn thing.

They let Media.Vision go and make that Riz-zoawd game on DS, while they could have tried to drag them to work on WA6. They could have whipped the ass out of L-5 to speed up the development of WKC, instead of letting them "have fun" with Inazuma, Layton and whatnot.

And I don't know why. They seem so proud when they go and release non-games like that safari and that sea diving piece of crap. Meh.
 
gantz85 said:
This fanboy spin is terrifying. How about PS3's June NPD advantage erasing well.. every single stream cross that X360 had? Sad and pathetic.

I hope you were telling all the PS3 fans the same thing when the NPD advantage for the 360 was covering two months of slower sales in the rest of the world at a time. Also, the only sad and pathetic thing was you taking things being sad as completely serious.
 
Paracelsus said:
Infact there's no conspiracy. It's just the way things are, although with most future releases, now that both engines are ready and running, we'll see simultaneous releases.

The difference between MS and Sony is that the first one actually threw a couple of Jrpgs during the first years, thanks to MW. SCEJ isn't doing a damn thing.

They let Media.Vision go and make that Riz-zoawd game on DS, while they could have tried to drag them to work on WA6. They could have whipped the ass out of L-5 to speed up the development of WKC, instead of letting them "have fun" with Inazuma, Layton and whatnot.

And I don't know why. They seem so proud when they go and release non-games like that safari and that sea diving piece of crap. Meh.

White Knight Story was supposed to be a launch title but the head of Level 5 pushed back the deadline. I'm all for releasing a game when it's ready but SCEJ could have used such a critical game like this earlier. Level 5 must have drawn a line on the ground and refused to budge on having a later deadline.
 
Masklinn said:
I think there's a slight problem with your script here, joshua
If the system is behind it never catches up, so the line-crossing date comes at a point in the past. Usually this just means I don't mention that part that week, but a date in the 1800s was too good.
Stumpokapow said:
- JPGs are for photographs/anything where details are not at all important.
- PNGs are for graphs/diagrams/screenshots of text/anything where small details are important.
Yeah. Especially for simply-colored graphs like I do and you (jimbo) have made a few of now, PNG will be both clearer and result in a smaller file size. Even a monster HD one comes out clean and small.
 
Yoshi said:
BTW: Why aren't there YTD/LTD numbers for consoles in the original posting anymore?

Oops -- I knew I forgot something. Here it is:

Code:
Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. NDS   -    60,434 |    57,398 | 1,938,946 |  23,111,550
2. PSP   -    58,501 |    61,181 | 2,510,556 |  10,112,156
3. WII   -    38,506 |    41,109 | 1,947,145 |   6,563,305
4. 360   -    24,962 |     5,359 |   120,598 |     627,939
5. PS3   -     9,673 |     9,508 |   618,991 |   2,260,667
6. PS2   -     8,503 |           |   235,686 |  21,162,723


Jokeropia said:
Cheesemeister and his parser has moved to Japan and he's unavailable when the data is released. He has mentioned that he should be able to supply the OP content to someone else though. I can do it if no one else will, but since Media-Create's releases happen in the middle of the night in my time I wouldn't be able to post it until several hours later.

I can certainly do it if he makes that available, and I really enjoy doing it as well (and am available at the time the numbers are released). If it isn't made available, we can find an acceptable substitute that will eventually be even better. Like I said, I really like doing it and am totally willing to hear feedback on how we can improve the OP.

If you guys have any thoughts, ideas, or recommendations, please PM me so I can sort that out.
 
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