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Media Create Sales 10/22 - 10/28 2007
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viciouskillersquirrel
Member
Were there lines for NSMB?
Chumly said:
Yeah I want to know too.
The predictions seem all over the place. Like a month ago people were saying they expect the game to blow everything out of the water and that Wiis will be impossible to get days before the game is release. Now I see some people expecting sunshine like numbers.
I mean WTF, sunshine number for SMG would be a disaster considering how bad the GCN and sunshine did. It would be really pathetic for the "next gen leader".
Did something change that's going to make me hate the japanese gamers more than I already do.
test_account
XP-39C²
Chumly said:
Sometime tomorrow (friday). Not quite sure about what time tho, but keep checking the threadccbfan said:
I dont think the numbers for SMG will start too much of a meltdown tho since high numbers are expected, but who know.Chumly said:
EDIT: Or it depends on what meltdown means in this case. I'm sure someone will make a own thread about 1st day SMG sales and that that thread will get like 10+ pages with replies. In that way, its a meltdown indeed, but its not a meltdown like i.e when Monster Hunter 3 went from PS3 exclusive to Wii exclusive. A meltdown when something unexpected happends.
I'd like to point out that there were no lines for DQ:Swords (the current biggest Wii launch) or for Mario Party. AC6 is a very hardcore game in Japan and the Otaku will line up for it. They also lined up for that "Witch Touching" game. Lines first thing in the morning at 2 stores mean very little. Everyone knew there would be tons of copies of Galaxy but a limited number of Ace Combat. But which do you really think is going to sell better?
But since the theme of this thread has changed and I don't want to be off-topic, I'll add:
OMG Japan hates Mario. They knew Home was on the way and have no use for Mario anymore!
But since the theme of this thread has changed and I don't want to be off-topic, I'll add:
OMG Japan hates Mario. They knew Home was on the way and have no use for Mario anymore!
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
:lolVinnk said:
I really don't get why people think that Home will do anything for PS3 sales. It's really neat, sure, but much less of a system seller than, say, Final Fantasy XIII. If anything, it's a nice bonus, but no more revolutionary than the Mii channel. /tangent
Ynos Yrros
Banned
:lol :lol :lolvicious_killer_squirrel said:
Let's just leave it at that. Expecting SMG to flop is kinda stupid, it's the biggest Wii release so far, and I'm sure that people recognize it.
Wonderdave
Member
Home will push software sales not hardware. One of the reasons that the 360 has such a high tie ratio is because of it's online community. Home is going to be the mother of all graphical chat rooms plus Home does something that XBL matchmaking can't do, it allows for a social element when shoosing who to play with online. Instead of playing ranked matches with random strangers you can meet and greet before entering a match which should help with avoiding playing with people online that you would avoid in real life. Even virtual accountability can have a highly positive effect on civility.vicious_killer_squirrel said:
KeithFranklin
Banned
Wonderdave said:
Yeah I really wish when playing a nice 16 player match of Halo 3 I could go check out eveones virtual home and see what the person is like before I play with/against them.
That was sarcasm...
Flesh Into Gear
Member
Well, I remember Kotaku did a similar launch day article on Blue Dragon where they checked around the city. It seemed dead then too, but the game sold pretty well in it's first week. Right? It sold....it sold good.
Ynos Yrros
Banned
It's optional, and it's awesome to jump from playing billard in your virtual avenue right into a game, with your buddies. It's awesome to share your pics, without having to sed them through email or whatever, it's grnd to share your videos. Basically the thing is amazing, and generation ahead of nything else on consoles, whether you like it or not. People think that myspace is useless, or youtube, or iTunes, it doesn't stop them from being some of the best things on the web.KeithFranklin said:
DeaconKnowledge
Member
What's with the up and down Wii sales week to week?
Ynos Yrros
Banned
Maybe. From the presentations so far it looked amazing, it's not like we haven't seen it.gkrykewy said:
Great Rumbler
Member
ccbfan said:
By about a thousand. So, in other words, not really.
Ynos Yrros said:
We've seen it be heavily delayed, with rumors it's being stripped down. Sony has shown signs of getting a bit more nimble lately, and changing stances rather quickly if they don't think investments will get them to break-even. I could certainly see them abandoning Home, or at best releasing a glorified 'Miis with rooms and lobbies' Home-lite if their market research shows that Home won't take off.
Wonderdave
Member
Sony is featuring home in their new ad campaign. I'd say they,re pretty well committed to it.gkrykewy said:
On topic: sales seem to be steady from last week.
Oblivion said:
I wish it had been doing these kind of numbers much earlier in its life-cycle (ie earlier Crisis Core and/or PSP slim releases). I hope there's still a chance for reasonable software support in the future, to sustain those kind of hardware sales at least.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
DS is back... but GBA is back to being not listed. Perhaps they're doing this rather than showing 0s as they have in the past?
Wii comparisons: At week 48, Wii is where GCN was at 181.8 weeks (March 4, 2005), where GBA was at 38.8 weeks (December 14, 2001), where DS was at 51.5 weeks (November 23, 2005), where PS2 was at 57.3 weeks (April 3, 2001), and where PSP was at 85.02 weeks (July 23, 2006).
PS3 comparisons: At week 51, PS3 is where PS2 was at 5.8 weeks (April 7, 2000), where PSP was at 20.0 weeks (April 23, 2005), where GCN was at 26.6 weeks (March 14, 2002), and where Wii was at 7.2 weeks (January 15, 2007).
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 56.1 / 43.9, bringing total shares to 74.8 / 25.2. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 219.9 weeks (January 15, 2012).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 40.6 / 59.4, bringing total shares to 24.9 / 75.11. If next week was like the last few, PS3 could hit 25% and no longer be tripled by Wii. However, I'm guessing Wii might pick up next week. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 132.0 weeks (May 9, 2010).
PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, DS catches up to PS2 in 15.3 weeks (February 11, 2008) at ~21.0 million apiece.
Wii comparisons: At week 48, Wii is where GCN was at 181.8 weeks (March 4, 2005), where GBA was at 38.8 weeks (December 14, 2001), where DS was at 51.5 weeks (November 23, 2005), where PS2 was at 57.3 weeks (April 3, 2001), and where PSP was at 85.02 weeks (July 23, 2006).
PS3 comparisons: At week 51, PS3 is where PS2 was at 5.8 weeks (April 7, 2000), where PSP was at 20.0 weeks (April 23, 2005), where GCN was at 26.6 weeks (March 14, 2002), and where Wii was at 7.2 weeks (January 15, 2007).
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 56.1 / 43.9, bringing total shares to 74.8 / 25.2. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 219.9 weeks (January 15, 2012).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 40.6 / 59.4, bringing total shares to 24.9 / 75.11. If next week was like the last few, PS3 could hit 25% and no longer be tripled by Wii. However, I'm guessing Wii might pick up next week. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 132.0 weeks (May 9, 2010).
PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, DS catches up to PS2 in 15.3 weeks (February 11, 2008) at ~21.0 million apiece.
It does seem like it's taken a long-term several-dozen-thousand bite out of DS's weekly sales, doesn't it?ccbfan said:
Great Rumbler
Member
Kiriku said:
I really don't see any major shifts happening anytime soon.
Even taking into consideration that immense gap between cumulative hardware sales for the DS and the PSP, which most developers will probably only do in terms of being favorable to the DS, there's really just nothing there. 16 games compared to 1? And even that one only managed to come in at 15, which probably accounts for about 12,000 copies.
It's really mindboggling how many PSPs are being bought compared to high many PSP games are being bought...
viciouskillersquirrel
Member
@ people laughing at my Home comment.
I'm not kidding. Home looks really cool and it obviously takes a really good look at the second life concept and expands on it.
I just don't see it setting PS3 hardware sales on fire. I used the Mii channel as a comparison because I see them serving the same purpose. It will be a feature that people who have bought the system may look at and think "neat", like an unexpected surprise. For people who don't own the system however, it won't be much of a selling point.
I just realised that I used the word "revolutionary" in an ambiguous way. I should clarify now with "in terms of system sales".
I'm not kidding. Home looks really cool and it obviously takes a really good look at the second life concept and expands on it.
I just don't see it setting PS3 hardware sales on fire. I used the Mii channel as a comparison because I see them serving the same purpose. It will be a feature that people who have bought the system may look at and think "neat", like an unexpected surprise. For people who don't own the system however, it won't be much of a selling point.
I just realised that I used the word "revolutionary" in an ambiguous way. I should clarify now with "in terms of system sales".
Barf_the_Mog
powerless or are they? o_O
What other uses for the PSP are there other than playing its games? The novelty of 8-bit emulation wears off quickly; so why isn't software inline with hardware then?
Barf_the_Mog
powerless or are they? o_O
Grecco said:
Do 60,000 people who bought it this week really know how to do that, though?
Great Rumbler said:
If you go to any bookstore in Japan you can find books about how to play bootleg software on the PSP (and to a lesser extent on the DS). These arn't seedy, dimly lit, bookshops, but standard corner stores. The PSP gamers I talk to all know how to get free games. I hope Sony is making a profit on hardware with the new PSP slim, because when you can sell that many units every week but have almost no standing in the software charts, something is seriously wrong.
Great Rumbler
Member
Here's a week-by-week breakdown for the past few months:
1 game*
5 games
5 games
6 games
7 games
8 games
4 games [Crisis Core launch]
4 games
3 games
3 games
4 games
3 games
3 games
3 games
1 game
2 games
2 games
2 games
5 games
5 games
5 games [first week of June]
*Latest Media Create only accounts for top 30, all other account for top 50.
There was a post-Crisis bump in software sales, though not the week Crisis launched interestingly enough, but it's been going down since. And the weeks before weren't exactly that great either, averaging between 2 and 4 games in the top 50.
This might look okay, but a lot of these games aren't debuting very high and only a few of the more high-profile games are sticking around for more than a week are two.
1 game*
5 games
5 games
6 games
7 games
8 games
4 games [Crisis Core launch]
4 games
3 games
3 games
4 games
3 games
3 games
3 games
1 game
2 games
2 games
2 games
5 games
5 games
5 games [first week of June]
*Latest Media Create only accounts for top 30, all other account for top 50.
There was a post-Crisis bump in software sales, though not the week Crisis launched interestingly enough, but it's been going down since. And the weeks before weren't exactly that great either, averaging between 2 and 4 games in the top 50.
This might look okay, but a lot of these games aren't debuting very high and only a few of the more high-profile games are sticking around for more than a week are two.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
As much as they know how to do 8-bit emulation, I suppose.Barf_the_Mog said:
Vinnk said:
Wow, that's sad.
I didn't think that kind of behaviour was common in Japan though (in the stats I've seen, they usually have a pretty low % of piracy), but maybe PSP is different in this regard?
I really hope Sony make it a lot harder to play pirated games with the next PSP if the piracy (not just in Japan, but worldwide) is as bad as it seems.
A bit off-topic, but this reminds me of my brother who got a PSP a few days ago, and the first thing he did was buy an 8 gb memory stick and download a bunch of games, and then went on telling me he was going to "try the games, and buy the ones he like". :/
PuppetMaster
Member
Barf_the_Mog said:
You can watch TV with the TV tuner which is very popular.
You can use the GPS navi software which is very popular
You can watch UMD movies.
You can play music.
You can watch downloaded movies.
You can browse the internet.
Ynos Yrros
Banned
It's not like there was some amazing softare coming out this week that didn't sell. All the good games sell well on PSP, which was proven oh so many times already.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Let me provide something to go along with that; the PSP percentage of total software according to Famitsu. Of course the PSP percentage going up could mean sales are flat while other things are down, but hey. Same time period, more or less.Great Rumbler said:
12.0 (Week starting June 4)
6.4
3.5
5.7
5.8
3.7
3.6
5.3
5.5
6.4
2WEEK2 (Second of two combined weeks)
5.2
4.5
4.3
30.7 (Crisis Core)
26.2
19.8
18.0
13.0
12.2 (Week starting October 15)
Great Rumbler
Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
Could you post the DS percentages as well?