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[donny2112]

Even New Super Mario Bros. or Mario Party 8 didn't have any huge lines. Same with Brain Age and Animal Crossing.

But see where they are now...

On its way out of the top 30 and Mario Party! Who buys Mario Party?

 

[SPEA]

Japan-GameCharts:
Super Mario 64 - 1,639,914
Super Mario Sunshine - 789,989

"Did you know that Mario 3D console sales are down 52% between the previous two systems? If these trends continue... AAY!"

Haha amazing.

 

[Dash Kappei]

Was last week's thread so bad we've come to this?

PlanetofApesTHEEND.jpg

OMG SPOILER!!1111!!!

 

[taconinja]

OMG SPOILER!!1111!!!

Sorry. Forgot the 40-year wait on spoiler reveals isn't up for Planet of the Apes until next year.

 

[Azelover]

This and Smash Bros. I always wondered how sequels to GameCube games were supposed to draw in the PS2 hardcore...

Along with other things, many of them were meant to help draw the large lapsed gamer demographic back into home console gaming(a lot of them from the Famicom age), not necessarily the PS2 hardcore.

 

[voodoojohn]

Japan-GameCharts:
Super Mario 64 - 1,639,914
Super Mario Sunshine - 789,989

SM64 only sold that many copies in Japan during its lifetime? Didn't it sell like 11 million worldwide? That would be a ridiculously low share for the Japanese market...

 

[birdchili]

Along with other things, many of them were meant to help draw the large lapsed gamer demographic back into home console gaming(a lot of them from the Famicom age), not necessarily the PS2 hardcore.

yup. i don't think that nintendo really thought they'd be in a position to make a serious play for the ps2-owning hardcore. they prepped three general targets:

gamecube hardcore: sequels to gamecube mascot games
"new audiences": wii ___ series.
lapsed gamers: virtual console nostalgia angle.

obviously this oversimplifies, and there's lots of overlap, but the lack of a strong new ip targeted to the hardcore, or any rpgs at all really suggest that they didn't have the ps2 gamer in mind initially. i do expect a bit more of a play for these folk next year, assuming that nintendo actually spends some of that cash they're raking in.

 

[Sage00]

yup. i don't think that nintendo really thought they'd be in a position to make a serious play for the ps2-owning hardcore. they prepped three general targets:

gamecube hardcore: sequels to gamecube mascot games
"new audiences": wii ___ series.
lapsed gamers: virtual console nostalgia angle.

obviously this oversimplifies, and there's lots of overlap, but the lack of a strong new ip targeted to the hardcore, or any rpgs at all really suggest that they didn't have the ps2 gamer in mind initially. i do expect a bit more of a play for these folk next year, assuming that nintendo actually spends some of that cash they're raking in.

They're taking the right steps to solve this problem. The Monolith Soft. acquisition and probable money involved in MH3 exclusivity are on the right track.

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

SMG will sell 600k first week and this is without lines mark my words

Very unlikely. And this because the shipment is around 700k (edited), for the first week.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

SM64 only sold that many copies in Japan during its lifetime? Didn't it sell like 11 million worldwide? That would be a ridiculously low share for the Japanese market...

Japan had a ridiculously low share of Nintendo console hardware the previous two generations. Looking at N64 specifically, Japan accounted for about 17% of the hardware. To account for 15% of SM64 sales would be in line with that.

 

[Xeke]

No. And this because the shipment is around 500k, for the first week.

I could swear it was 700k.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

I could swear it was 700k.

450k sitting on the shelves collecting dust, 650k.... a couple hundred thousand doesn't really matter when you're using numbers that big... price collapse is inevitable... lets face it, nobody really wants mario anymore... I have a pet dog named Maggie... pumpkin pie is delicious with lots of whipped cream on it... who am i impersonating i wonder...

 

[Christine]

450k sitting on the shelves collecting dust, 650k.... a couple hundred thousand doesn't really matter when you're using numbers that big... price collapse is inevitable... lets face it, nobody really wants mario anymore... I have a pet dog named Maggie... pumpkin pie is delicious with lots of whipped cream on it... who am i impersonating i wonder...

You need at least two more paragraphs... and you could ramble on a little bit more... and also put ellipses in places they don't... belong

 

[Durante]

The last 2 pages of this thread are at least as entertaining as SMG :lol

 

[mabuza]

holy crap, wii fit pre orders just sold out again on amazon. im beginning to believe,

 

[PistolGrip]

holy crap, wii fit pre orders just sold out again on amazon. im beginning to believe,

how the hell do you continuously sell out of preorders :\

 

[kottila]

holy crap, wii fit pre orders just sold out again on amazon. im beginning to believe,

Considering that Galaxy is just below WiiFit on the toplist, I don't think we should put much trust into what happens on amazon

edit: 15% off Galaxy! tallbuildingcollapsingalludingtoprizesbeingcuttogetridofstock.jpg

 

[Jamesfrom818]

I think Zack and Wiki would sell better if it had a better name.

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

I could swear it was 700k.

Can someone confirm this ?

 

[mabuza]

how the hell do you continuously sell out of preorders :\

well im sure amazon have a certain amount available for pre order, and is sold out. btw is it me or is the 360 line up for japan this holiday extremely good.

 

[Great Rumbler]

After reading the past few pages of this thread...

MY BWAIN HURTS!!

 

[kottila]

Can someone confirm this ?

It was in one of the old threads. Like a month ago.

 

[ethelred]

I think Zack and Wiki would sell better if it had a better name.

That isn't the name in Japan.

 

[AniHawk]

SM64 only sold that many copies in Japan during its lifetime? Didn't it sell like 11 million worldwide? That would be a ridiculously low share for the Japanese market...

The N64 sold worse than the Sega Saturn in Japan.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

The N64 sold worse than the Sega Saturn in Japan.

Is the PS3 still tracking under the Saturn over there?







/ducks

 

[gkryhewy]

Go go Ace Combat 6! Also Mario Galaxy.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

The N64 sold worse than the Sega Saturn in Japan.

Not THAT'S a fail. Not just any fail either, but an epic fail; a catastrophic, titanic fail of biblical proportions. A fail so hard and so intense that the needle on the failometer spins all the way around the dial until it reaches the legendary end of the scale, somehow making it totally awesome.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Not THAT'S a fail. Not just any fail either, but an epic fail; a catastrophic, titanic fail of biblical proportions. A fail so hard and so intense that the needle on the failometer spins all the way around the dial until it reaches the legendary end of the scale, somehow making it totally awesome.

Saturn was Sega's most successful console in Japan. It even had a million seller.

 

[A Black Falcon]

The N64 sold worse than the Sega Saturn in Japan.

To be specific, the N64 sold about 32 million hardware worldwide, 21 million in the US and the rest split between Japan and the rest of the world... 5.5 million N64s sold in Japan, maximum. Which, yes, puts it in third behind the Saturn which got 7-8 million there... though of course thanks to 1-1.2 million sales each in the US and Europe the Saturn only got maybe 10 million worldwide.

Not THAT'S a fail. Not just any fail either, but an epic fail; a catastrophic, titanic fail of biblical proportions. A fail so hard and so intense that the needle on the failometer spins all the way around the dial until it reaches the legendary end of the scale, somehow making it totally awesome.

Yeah, it was Japan where the N64 failed. In America it did pretty well, almost as well as the SNES numbers-wise, but in Japan it totally collapsed...

Saturn was Sega's most successful console in Japan

Though this is true too. Of course the SMS and Genesis (third place in Japan, behind the TurboGrafx) failed totally there, so only the Saturn and DC were really options to be 'most successful'...

 

[Smiles and Cries]

No. And this because the shipment is around 500k, for the first week.

really? bummer

 

[castle007]

typical week

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Not THAT'S a fail. Not just any fail either, but an epic fail; a catastrophic, titanic fail of biblical proportions. A fail so hard and so intense that the needle on the failometer spins all the way around the dial until it reaches the legendary end of the scale, somehow making it totally awesome.

I'm curious how you'd word the GameCube's success, considering it did 1.5 million less than N64.

 

[slaughterking]

really? bummer

Don't know where this 500k comes from, I've read it a couple of times now, but it's wrong. Retailer preorders a month ago were 700k.

 

[A Black Falcon]

I'm curious how you'd word the GameCube's success, considering it did 1.5 million less than N64.

I'd say that proportionally, and looking just at the Japanese market, the GC was less of a failure than the N64 because the percentage drop between the N64 and GC was a lot smaller than the drop between the SNES and N64... in America it's the opposite of course, with the GC dropping a lot more from the N64 than the N64 did from the SNES.

Overall the N64 and GC weren't failures, really, thanks largely to North American sales...

 

[SovanJedi]

GOD, reading these sarcasm-dripped threads is an absolute headache inducing nightmare. No wonder I'm gaining a receding hairline, it's thanks to you fuckers and your dry wit.

 

[viciouskillersquirrel]

I'm curious how you'd word the GameCube's success, considering it did 1.5 million less than N64.

You know how the N64's failure sent the needle all the way around the dial? The Gamecube's failure sent it all the way around one-and-a-half times so it goes back to the bad end of the scale. Do you know what that means? I'll tell you.

It means that if the N64's failure can be likened to Titanic, a multi-million dollar movie about a gargantuan failure, then the Gamecube's failure can be likened to a sequel to that movie. The difference: one is so bad that it's awesome and the other is so much worse that it's bad again.

OK, that made no sense.

 

[Frillen]

Preorders from retailers was 700k.

 

[SovanJedi]

450k sitting on the shelves collecting dust, 650k.... a couple hundred thousand doesn't really matter when you're using numbers that big... price collapse is inevitable... lets face it, nobody really wants mario anymore... I have a pet dog named Maggie... pumpkin pie is delicious with lots of whipped cream on it... who am i impersonating i wonder...

That sounds an awful lot like that J-Zrez chap or whoever, but I think you're impersonating the Phoenix Down one instead. So who is it? And did Phoenix actually get banned then?

 

[Ynos Yrros]

450k sitting on the shelves collecting dust, 650k.... a couple hundred thousand doesn't really matter when you're using numbers that big... price collapse is inevitable... lets face it, nobody really wants mario anymore... I have a pet dog named Maggie... pumpkin pie is delicious with lots of whipped cream on it... who am i impersonating i wonder...

I have no idea, but it's awesome.

 

[Xeke]

I'd say that proportionally, and looking just at the Japanese market, the GC was less of a failure than the N64 because the percentage drop between the N64 and GC was a lot smaller than the drop between the SNES and N64... in America it's the opposite of course, with the GC dropping a lot more from the N64 than the N64 did from the SNES.

Overall the N64 and GC weren't failures, really, thanks largely to North American sales...

And people are surprised that the Wii is most popular in NA? North American has always loved Nintendo.

 

[donny2112]

450k sitting on the shelves collecting dust, 650k.... a couple hundred thousand doesn't really matter when you're using numbers that big... price collapse is inevitable... lets face it, nobody really wants mario anymore... I have a pet dog named Maggie... pumpkin pie is delicious with lots of whipped cream on it... who am i impersonating i wonder...

edit: 15% off Galaxy! tallbuildingcollapsingalludingtoprizesbeingcuttogetridofstock.jpg

Price collapse...

Spoiler

... or not?

 

[kottila]

So in how long can we expect the numbers? Have to decide whether to go to bed or not

 

[Ynos Yrros]

Is tht guy jumping out of falling building supposed to represent Mario, and the awesome gravity engine?

 

[schuelma]

So in how long can we expect the numbers? Have to decide whether to go to bed or not

I think they usually show up tomorrow morning or somewhere along those lines. (EST).

 

[Mithos Yggdrasill]

Preorders from retailers was 700k.

Ok.

 

[Narag]

450k sitting on the shelves collecting dust, 650k.... a couple hundred thousand doesn't really matter when you're using numbers that big... price collapse is inevitable... lets face it, nobody really wants mario anymore... I have a pet dog named Maggie... pumpkin pie is delicious with lots of whipped cream on it... who am i impersonating i wonder...

Had you a caruso av, I'd not even noticed. I'm probably the only person glad to see people lined up for AC6 too.

 

[slaughterking]

So in how long can we expect the numbers? Have to decide whether to go to bed or not

Nah, they will show up in about 10 to 12 hours.

//edit// That is when you're talking about first day sales.

 

[Cryect]

The writing is on the wall which means it is time for Segata to reveal his coup of the century.

Be prepared for the murkiest scam.

9/9/2009?

 

[Amir0x]

wait why are people suddenly expecting that Mario Galaxy didn't do amazing sales? Did I miss some memo?

If Japan rejects this, hoo boy... I can't think of any more definitive answer to the question "Does Japan hate gaming?" That'd be a yes, folks!

ANYWAY, that little bit of speculation aside, I can't believe anyone thinks this game will bomb. I don't really know what happened to make people think that, but it's going to sell.. what... 400,000~500,000 minimum? We'll get another awesome Mario game at some point in the future, after that who cares what it sells.

I guess there were empty lines when the first DS launched, and look how everyone loves it now!

 

[donny2112]

Is tht guy jumping out of falling building supposed to represent Mario, and the awesome gravity engine?

Maybe?

Spoiler

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiNrzmbdC1Q

wait why are people suddenly expecting that Mario Galaxy didn't do amazing sales? Did I miss some memo?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8450705&postcount=298