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Media Create Sales 10/22 - 10/28 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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SMG had rather crappy marketing (at least in my town), DQ:Swords was advertised better. FF7:CC was in an entiredly different league than the apathetic SMG campaign. Still, I am suprised, almost shocked, if these numbers are true. I thought Mario could pull it off by name alone. Seems Nintendo did too because they dropped the ball.
Example: Today in my class one of my students asked me what my favorite "TV Game" was. I said I was going to buy SMG later that day. He looked at me perplexed as did the rest of the class. Only 2 nerdy boys in the class had even heard of it.
That is pathetic.
Maybe I shouldn't be so surpriesed after all.
But as I said this is only my town. Has was the advertising in the larger cities?
Example: Today in my class one of my students asked me what my favorite "TV Game" was. I said I was going to buy SMG later that day. He looked at me perplexed as did the rest of the class. Only 2 nerdy boys in the class had even heard of it.
That is pathetic.
Maybe I shouldn't be so surpriesed after all.
But as I said this is only my town. Has was the advertising in the larger cities?
Hurricane_Chris
DDK
We might see some stuff make a surprise comeback on the charts! Several stores and online shops are having pretty good sales over the next 2-3 weeks.
Magicpaint
Member
130k first day sales. If it sold 130k more than MP8, then I doubt people would be calling the numbers poor.[Nintex] said:
But yeah, I'm really beginning to seriously consider if there's much else besides the WiiSports/Fit crowd on the Wii. :/
Phife Dawg
Member
They would have to seriously outsell PS3 to come back into the race with it. And Wii, well that's not really in the reach at all. Not going to happen, period.Bebpo said:
Or to put it more bluntly:
Bebpo said:
That had bomb written all over it from the start. I'm surprised they shipped that much and that retailers were willing to accept the lot.Kurosaki Ichigo said:
They do, most of them do it on handhelds though.Amir0x said:
marvelharvey
Member
I don't watch TV, so I can't say anything for Osaka television, but I haven't seen any advertising for SMG, ever. I was walking past Yodobashi Camera at opening time on Thursday and I was expecting to see plenty of people, outside either waiting for the game or promoting it with balloons, flyers and fanfares. Nothing. If it wasn't for GAF, I wouldn't have known SMG was coming out this week.Vinnk said:
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Amir0x said:
I think it is more an audience problem. DS is BOTH hardcore and casual. The handheld managed to sell to BOTH widely and this explain why games like New Super Mario Bros. or Mario Kart DS sold very well and why games like Nintendogs or Brain Training or Animal Crossing also sold incedibly well.
Wii is too casual. That's the point. And probably many people have bought it and now they simply forgot the console: so they're the genre of people who are not waiting any new games. Simply they bougha Wii for Wii Sports and stop. Some time has passed, and the Wii is not a surprise anymore. It is like a Chirstmas's gift: who're happy with it only for some weeks and the you forget about its existance.
So, is the Wii is trouble ? No. But these are signals that Nintendo cannot ignore and that could make the system a not-so-complete success as the DS has been worldwide.
And I would say that this is more a Japan problem, for now. Nintendo needs to attract hardcore's games too and I'm sure that they know it, because Monster Hunter 3 goes in this direction.
Hm. And there I was, wondering if 700k preorders would be enough to quell the customers' thirst for Mario. Ah well. Nintendos' Achilles heel at work, again? If so, why are they opposed to marketing their games "correctly"?
Ouch at Ooponas numbers. That game looks so unique and interesting, I want it to succeed. Is it flawed in a way or does the japanese customer just dislike the artstyle/marketing?
The main house (with its software and hardware development studios) could still listen to the Japanese while the western branches could gather to western tastes. Everybody would be happy. ...until the day the likely underfunded NoA/E studios crank out a bad game and tarnish Nintendos name. Chaos ensues, western Nintendo devstudios die a gruesome death (all members are personally bitchslapped to death by Iwata).
...it's nice(?) to dream sometimes.
Ouch at Ooponas numbers. That game looks so unique and interesting, I want it to succeed. Is it flawed in a way or does the japanese customer just dislike the artstyle/marketing?
Actually, Nintendo Japan allowing and funding NoE/NoA to start their own gaming dev studios would be a great idea.titiklabingapat said:
The main house (with its software and hardware development studios) could still listen to the Japanese while the western branches could gather to western tastes. Everybody would be happy. ...until the day the likely underfunded NoA/E studios crank out a bad game and tarnish Nintendos name. Chaos ensues, western Nintendo devstudios die a gruesome death (all members are personally bitchslapped to death by Iwata).
...it's nice(?) to dream sometimes.
Mithos Yggdrasil said:
i think it's just that the vast majority of Japan hates games, and actively roots to see gamings destruction, unless it comes in quaint math problem form. Or has cute puppies.
I think we should take all the people who buy Super Mario Galaxy away from Japan, since they are the last remaining few... they are surrounding by the equivalent of zombies, who will soon eat their brains and turn them into one of the game-hating majority if we don't.
Whatever it is atleast Mario Galaxy did better than Mario Party 8. MP8 will probably sell a million before the end of the year. I think SMG will reach that number too, but more importantly, Mario Galaxy will have a much bigger impact on western markets than the Japanese market. They just like the 2D games better.
can someone please answer me this. whats the logic behind deciding to sell a game like opoona on the same day as super mario galaxy? this is not the first time its happened. isnt it better selling the game at a time when there is practically no game being released on the platform?
ksamedi said:
EVERYONE likes the 2D games better. It's a worldwide thing. Also, Mario Party 8 will probably outsell SMG. It's Mario Party 4 vs. SMS all over again.
justjohn said:
It could be that companies believe if they have their game out when a really big one is on sale, they'll take notice and get a boost of the coattails of the bigger game.
Haven't seen it actually work though.
Phife Dawg
Member
That's apparently Nintendo's new marketing approach. Market the hell out of casual games to get the attention of the masses and create demand and treat the games for the "hardcore" crowd like a red-headed step-child. Of course this makes sense from a business standpoint since a lot of that hardcore crowd reads magazines, the internet and what not and thus will create hype through blogs, fora (forums?) etc. But it'll also form a public conception of the Wii and it's software, that it's home only to casual games thus hampering sales for "core" games.CTLance said:
It'll be interesting to see how it'll all work out. If MP3, SMG and SSBB fail to attract a lot of customers/some of the new casual gamers I think Nintendo will definetly rethink their marketing. To have a steady cash flow from Wii they need the core demographic and Iwata is aware of that. They just thought they could get away with this new marketing strategy and it seems like it won't work out that way.
slaughterking
Member
What numbers did DQ:S do on its first day?
titiklabingapat
Member
Anyone have any data on first week sales of both Mario 64 and Mario Sunshine in both NA and Japan, and sales breakdown for each region(NA, JP, PAL), if you have them.
I'm not entirely sure either, but apparently even first party games don't sell on Wii.spwolf said:
(Just kidding and exaggerating, of course. Also, pic not by me, looking for sauce - it just fit too well)
I don't demand or expect a MS/Sony style media blitz, but at least SOME traditional advertising would be useful nonetheless. Even soccer moms get lost from time to time and wander into the videogaming section. You cannot expect to sell games without advertising them at the place where most of them are sold, or so I'd think.Phife Dawg said:
Ah well, we'll see. Let's hope for the best and fear the worst.
Pureauthor
Member
It's the end of the world as we know it (and I feel fine)
I do not understand the appeal of SMG to mass market
It has spherical worlds, meaning true 3D gameplay plus gravity and so, very complex, and you expect people turned off by the first MArio 3D to be attracted ??
I would a casual, I would be terrified by the prospect of playing it (not saying it would be difficult to be played, but the first impression before even trying would be bad)
MArio for the casuals is a 2D scrolling game, no more
It has spherical worlds, meaning true 3D gameplay plus gravity and so, very complex, and you expect people turned off by the first MArio 3D to be attracted ??
I would a casual, I would be terrified by the prospect of playing it (not saying it would be difficult to be played, but the first impression before even trying would be bad)
MArio for the casuals is a 2D scrolling game, no more
test_account
XP-39C²
Damn.. 130k the first day for SMG? That seems kinda low. I said i would be suprised if it didnt sell atleast 500k within the first week, but there is still some days to go. It can happend 
I'm sure it will be a million seller within its lifetime anyway.
I'm sure it will be a million seller within its lifetime anyway.titiklabingapat
Member
Don't quote me on this but both SMS and N64 sold the same amounts in their first week. I need actual data to back up this claim though.test_account said:Damn.. 130k the first day for SMG? That seems kinda low. I said i would be suprised if it didnt sell atleast 500k within the first week, but there is still some days to go. It can happend
Anyone?
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
titiklabingapat said:
Mario 64 first week - 164,000
Mario Sunshine first week - 280,000
Mario 64 is not really a valid comparison though because it was a launch title and both legs and first week numbers are skewed by that.
Okay, what in the flying hell? I mean, seriously.
What was the advertising like for NSMB? Because if it was the same level of marketing as it was with Mario Galaxy, then there is something very wrong with Galaxy's first day sales... Unless people really WERE saving their money-spending for a slightly less rainy weekend spendathon.
What was the advertising like for NSMB? Because if it was the same level of marketing as it was with Mario Galaxy, then there is something very wrong with Galaxy's first day sales... Unless people really WERE saving their money-spending for a slightly less rainy weekend spendathon.
test_account
XP-39C²
Lobster said:
I dont think it would have sold 700k in the first week if the supply was there. According to japan-gamecharts.com DQS has a LTD of 470.7k. How fast was the supply fixed?