TheRipDizz
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What do your numbers say. I'll take your word for it.sp0rsk said:
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Media Create Sales 10/29 - 11/4 2007
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Zombie James
Banned
Woah, Ace Combat had that big of an impact? Wow.
Green Shinobi
Banned
MS really needs to do something about Japan if they launch another console after the 360.
Galactic Fork
A little fluff between the ears never did any harm...
Segata Sanshiro said:
I'm sure there are lots of kinky sex sites all over the internet where you can get your wish.
santouras said:
Pretty hard to miss.
I think someone said it earlier, and it's pretty obvious though. Wii's big gun this christmas is Wii Fit. They just started running teaser trailers. (btw, there were no teasers for MG).
I'm surprised at the fairly lackluster sales for MG, however, I don't think week 1 will be the end.
Omar Ismail
Banned
JoshuaJSlone said:
Well Microsoft definitely has one first under their belt. They're the first company to have their latest console outsell the previous one in LTD.
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davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
psp is holding steady, too, 3 weeks in a row.
Psychotext
Member
Surprisingly steep curve on the 360 compared to the xbox; honestly thought that they were selling close to each other. I suppose if it doubles the sales of the original machine it's something... maybe. :lol
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Well it shows that Japan is still a disaster area for them, but maybe not as bad off as they thought.Psychotext said:
They might actually hit a 3rd of the GCN's userbase in four years!
Though this line of growth, doesn't bode well. Six or seven generations before MS hits the 10 million unit mark?
360 got a great unit increase than Wii did this week :lol
Of course, looking at the release list (thanks Kurosaki), 360 has nothing major coming until 11/22 (except DW6, which is getting a PS3 release the same day, so I'm not expecting that to help things), so this is a sadly temporary occurrence. Although, it may get another chance come 12/6 (Uncharted for PS3 vs VP
arty Animals, Lost Odyssey, VF5Live & Momotaru Dentetsu on 360).
As for Wii, with only a 10k increase in unit sales over the previous week, that means at least 210k of Galaxy purchasers were previous Wii owners. Since we're going with the general assumption that hardcore gamers are the first to purchase a game, that's a fair estimate of the hardcore userbase on the Wii (with the exception of whatever users just don't like platformers). That's ~5.5% of the userbase being hardcore (not counting those who purchased a Wii this week).
Also interesting, about 44% of new Wii purchasers this week also purchased Wii Sports (if we assume anyone who already had a Wii had plenty of time to purchase Wii Sports, and didn't just spontaneously pick it up to day). I know someone (a while back) was keeping up with that average, but I don't have that information so don't know how this week compares to the previous average. Also, it seems likely the average would have been much lower these past few weeks, since Wii Sports has been out of the top ten for a while.
Also ~6.5% of purchasers or SMG also picked up Wii Sports this week. I have no idea what this means, I just like the numbers. It's interesting either way.
Of course, looking at the release list (thanks Kurosaki), 360 has nothing major coming until 11/22 (except DW6, which is getting a PS3 release the same day, so I'm not expecting that to help things), so this is a sadly temporary occurrence. Although, it may get another chance come 12/6 (Uncharted for PS3 vs VP
arty Animals, Lost Odyssey, VF5Live & Momotaru Dentetsu on 360).As for Wii, with only a 10k increase in unit sales over the previous week, that means at least 210k of Galaxy purchasers were previous Wii owners. Since we're going with the general assumption that hardcore gamers are the first to purchase a game, that's a fair estimate of the hardcore userbase on the Wii (with the exception of whatever users just don't like platformers). That's ~5.5% of the userbase being hardcore (not counting those who purchased a Wii this week).
Also interesting, about 44% of new Wii purchasers this week also purchased Wii Sports (if we assume anyone who already had a Wii had plenty of time to purchase Wii Sports, and didn't just spontaneously pick it up to day). I know someone (a while back) was keeping up with that average, but I don't have that information so don't know how this week compares to the previous average. Also, it seems likely the average would have been much lower these past few weeks, since Wii Sports has been out of the top ten for a while.
Also ~6.5% of purchasers or SMG also picked up Wii Sports this week. I have no idea what this means, I just like the numbers. It's interesting either way.
Rocksteady33
Junior Member
DiddyBop said:
Didn't you get the memo? Dyack already confirmed a unified console.
TheRipDizz
Banned
I guess that's one way of looking at it, but iirc besides that Final Fantasy 7 spinoff for the psp, none of those #1s have really set the market on fire, as they rank modestly and then drop rather significantly. I'm not saying it's dead as in there's absolutly no people in the country who want to play hardcaore games. Hardly. But the reality of the situation is that that segment of the gaming populace is in a serious state of decline and has been for a while really. This SMG happening is just another example of it.sp0rsk said:
TheRipDizz
Banned
Don't you dare compare the PS3 to the Saturn.PC Gaijin said:
The Saturn had great support in japan.
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
TheRipDizz said:
What a coincidence, the PS3 also has great support.
You just don't notice because they are coming out in 2008 and beyond.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
It's a full year... sort of. It is 52 weeks of data, but November 11, 2006 to November 4, 2007 is still a bit shy in exact dates. After next week's data it will be 1 calendar year + 1 day worth of PS3 availability.PC Gaijin said:
Run for your lives! The apocalypse is upon us!
Seriously though. Ace Combat 6 is a system seller for Japan? I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Japanese are crazy. No one in the universe could predict the Japanese video game market right now. Mario bombed, AC selling systems.. Cats dogs, living together.
VultureDude
Member
you've got to wonder how poorly Brawl will preform with Galaxy's numbers now...
Agent Icebeezy
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Why does everyone keep saying that SMG will have legs. Stores ordered 700k copies and practically 2/3 of them are still on shelves. To me, it sounds like demand has been satisfied in a big way.
I think Japan just doesnt want traditional games anymore. Even the latest FF sales have been weak. I think FF13 will be a sales disappointment too. They really seem to be loving the mobility and flexibility of handhelds. Luckily Nintendo also owns that market so it has nowhere to go but up.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
So the 360 took 2 years to pass 450k...any chance of 1 million by 2011?
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Well, if it's as down as SMG's first week was from SMS's, it might barely hit 1.2 million.VultureDude said:
Legs aren't just the result of shortages. Mario Kart DS isn't still sitting in the charts now because of people who had trouble finding it in stock in 2005, and Mario Party 8 isn't there because of people who couldn't find it in over the last four months. Not that it's a sure thing SMG will behave like either of them.Agent Icebreezy said:
edwardslane
Member
Crazy!! xbox 360 beat ps3?? niceee for Microsoft!
Nintendo's wii got a boost.. but wow.. nothing serious at all. By the look of this only around 15k new wii owners in week 1 from mario.
This game is getting critically acclaimed and mario is one of the biggest characters of all time?
Do you think nintendo is Diluting the mario name too much with all the mario sports + mario party each year that people perhaps question if the title is truely AAA anymore.. or maybe the average consuming doesn't know if it's a real mario game.
And those saying Brawl won't sell good because galaxy didn't? you're crazy.. Smash brothers is the most popular fighting game right now.. and it will sell to sonic fans and solid snake fans.. And possibly more fans once we find out who all the characters are.
It's great nintendo is releasing all their big titles within the first year and a half of wii's lifespan. Alot of titles such as zelda and mario people will still be buying in years 3-4 of the console along with whichever new IP's sell them on the system.
Nintendo's wii got a boost.. but wow.. nothing serious at all. By the look of this only around 15k new wii owners in week 1 from mario.
This game is getting critically acclaimed and mario is one of the biggest characters of all time?
Do you think nintendo is Diluting the mario name too much with all the mario sports + mario party each year that people perhaps question if the title is truely AAA anymore.. or maybe the average consuming doesn't know if it's a real mario game.
And those saying Brawl won't sell good because galaxy didn't? you're crazy.. Smash brothers is the most popular fighting game right now.. and it will sell to sonic fans and solid snake fans.. And possibly more fans once we find out who all the characters are.
It's great nintendo is releasing all their big titles within the first year and a half of wii's lifespan. Alot of titles such as zelda and mario people will still be buying in years 3-4 of the console along with whichever new IP's sell them on the system.
Agent Icebeezy
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JoshuaJSlone said:
A Marion platformer will never be a bad game. I didn't particularly care for Sunshine due to the premise, but the secret levels were the greatest thing ever. Now, in the states, when a retailer normally applies for a product, they generally want 60-80% sold upon release for storage space and the next week be able to accommodate consumers that didn't get it on release date. I know that it's going to sell in the future, but how much? If this were on the DS, we wouldn't be having this discussion. Japan, as a whole, is moving away from console gaming. It is what it is.
Agent Icebeezy
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Tristam said:
You don't order a large number of games to have them sit. They misjudged consumer demand. They saw Mario and they thought they would get the sales. It's a new day in Japan.
Agent Icebeezy said:
Yeah I think I already mentioned (twice, maybe thrice) that the sales were disappointing, but that doesn't disqualify potential legs. Not everybody buys a game on its opening day.
I'm hopeful, but I'm certainly not reaching. It's not like there isn't precedent.
And while console gaming obviously isn't dead in Japan, it looks like it may be dying, which is pretty unfortunate all the same. I've never been much of a handheld gamer.
citrus lump
Banned
I don't think the Wii will ever catch the PSP in Japan.
weird.
weird.