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Media Create Sales 10/29 - 11/4 2007
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
- Start date
Tron 2.0 said:
You're right aswell though..gaming in Japan has taken a weird turn. Nintendo needs to have 2 gaming divisions.
-The Japanese games
-The rest of the worlds games
Either that or Nintendo markets harder and harder and harder till they etch in to the Japanese heads that they should buy hardcore games.
You shut your whore mouth, I will not listen to these foul LIES.kottila said:
*Goes off to cry in the corner*
JoshuaJSlone said:
I think you typoed there somewhere, but hey, fair point, however, SMS was critically panned (Ok, it still scored highly) for being a bit....naff, SMG has suffered no such ills, also the MP series was relatively fresh when 4 hit, and was well received, MP8 was considered one of the worst, so I still expected a better first week for SMG compared to MP8, but hey, history contradicts me, still, my threat stands.
*runs*
Eteric Rice
Member
Lobster said:
Also, we have to realize that the hardcore base on the Wii is likely very small at the moment. As more hardcore gamers buy a Wii, they're more likely to buy games like Galaxy as well.
Magicpaint
Member
I love how everyone is being conservative about Wiifit now SMG has pulled in less than desirable numbers. :lol
zombie crimes
Member
I don't see how Wii Fit could possibly sell more than 100k, if not 70k in its first week.
This title will be a slow climb, and hard sell for Nintendo in Japan and the rest of the world. If the final product is good, and Nintendo's marketing and PR department in full swing, Nintendo could expect Wii Sport type sales. But I wouldn't expect the Wii Fit picture to be clear until atleast 6 months of its release.
This title will be a slow climb, and hard sell for Nintendo in Japan and the rest of the world. If the final product is good, and Nintendo's marketing and PR department in full swing, Nintendo could expect Wii Sport type sales. But I wouldn't expect the Wii Fit picture to be clear until atleast 6 months of its release.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Well, if there's one thing we've learned about the unwashed masses, it's how notoriously resistant they are to faddish, "easy-answer" exercise devices.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
When does Link's Crossbow Training come out? With its cheap price I could see it being bigger than Wii Fit this year.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Where?Stop It said:
Version 3.0
Member
Another 360 EDF game? US release, please!
Cheesemeister
Member
I'm somewhat surprised that everyone's first week expectations for Wii Fit seem to be all over the map. Perhaps I shouldn't be, however, given a few things to consider...
1. The target audience for Wii Fit does not include hardcore gamers. The people who are likely to buy into the game are not of the habit of lining up for new titles on day one. For them, it's more a case of whenever they get around to it or can afford it.
2. Most of the audience probably hasn't even heard of Wii Fit yet, relying on traditional advertising on television and in train stations to discover new titles. Or even slower yet, word-of-mouth.
3. Other casual games tend to have long legs as they work their way through the audience. Again, these folks are more or less ambivalent about buying video game software and are not highly motivated to do so. By the time a given consumer gets to the title, it may be months down the road.
All said, the initial impact of a game like Wii Fit might be muted compared to our blockbuster hits which make all their sales right off the bat. However, we should see some very long legs as time goes on.
1. The target audience for Wii Fit does not include hardcore gamers. The people who are likely to buy into the game are not of the habit of lining up for new titles on day one. For them, it's more a case of whenever they get around to it or can afford it.
2. Most of the audience probably hasn't even heard of Wii Fit yet, relying on traditional advertising on television and in train stations to discover new titles. Or even slower yet, word-of-mouth.
3. Other casual games tend to have long legs as they work their way through the audience. Again, these folks are more or less ambivalent about buying video game software and are not highly motivated to do so. By the time a given consumer gets to the title, it may be months down the road.
All said, the initial impact of a game like Wii Fit might be muted compared to our blockbuster hits which make all their sales right off the bat. However, we should see some very long legs as time goes on.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Well, I need to adjust down for it being a two-day rather than a four-day, so I'm amending my prediction to 170k.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I'm predicting some of the small hardcore base are going to buy it too. But mostly, I think Mario Galaxy is showing us that an overwhelmingly large part of the Wii owners are Wii Sports/Wii Play fans looking for stuff along that line. And if that's the type of experience they're interested in, they must be positively famished for the next title of that sort, being that the last one was Mario Party 8.taconinja said:Really? With the way casual software sells and only a two-day period, I would guess 100K max.
But there's a reason I usually just read this instead of posting guesses.
RiskyChris
Banned
Segata Sanshiro said:
SMG sales also might show a bit of 3d mario fatigue. A 2d mario on Wii would sell like gangbusters.
Cheesemeister
Member
Arsenal said:
MSRP is 8,800 yen ($78.09). The higher cost associated with the accessory might have a cooling effect on sales.
Wonderdave
Member
I can't see Wii fit being anything beyond a niche experiment. the combination of a relatively high price and single player ( or would that be user ) focus make it the effective opposite of Wii sports. Exergame with an added mini game collection versus family/party game. Nintendo should have pushed forward the other Wii(game) titles like Wii motorsports instead of bringing Wii fit forward from 2008.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
I guess no one cares about the following but oh well...
I updated the release list (added a few other games, some changed dates too) and added what they sold in their first week according to Famitsu (rounded though). I suppose I'll keep updating it in the following weeks...
11/01
NDS San Goku Shi DS 2 - 6,600
PS2 Super Robot Taisen Scramble Commander the 2nd - 10,000
PS2 G1 Jockey 4 2007 - 5,900
PS3 G1 Jockey 4 2007 - 4,500
WII Opoona - 3,000
WII Super Mario Galaxy - 256,000
360 Ace Combat 6: Kaihou e no Senka - 67,000
11/08
NDS Katei no Igaku: DS de Kitaeru Shokuzai Kenkou Training
NDS Mario Party DS
NDS Yosumin DS
PSP Akumajou Dracula X Chronicle
(11/11) PS3 Shin Sangoku Musou 5
(11/11) PS3 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
(11/11) 360 Shin Sangoku Musou 5
The rest of the list (until 12/27 week):
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8379282&postcount=454
I updated the release list (added a few other games, some changed dates too) and added what they sold in their first week according to Famitsu (rounded though). I suppose I'll keep updating it in the following weeks...
11/01
NDS San Goku Shi DS 2 - 6,600
PS2 Super Robot Taisen Scramble Commander the 2nd - 10,000
PS2 G1 Jockey 4 2007 - 5,900
PS3 G1 Jockey 4 2007 - 4,500
WII Opoona - 3,000
WII Super Mario Galaxy - 256,000
360 Ace Combat 6: Kaihou e no Senka - 67,000
11/08
NDS Katei no Igaku: DS de Kitaeru Shokuzai Kenkou Training
NDS Mario Party DS
NDS Yosumin DS
PSP Akumajou Dracula X Chronicle
(11/11) PS3 Shin Sangoku Musou 5
(11/11) PS3 Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
(11/11) 360 Shin Sangoku Musou 5
The rest of the list (until 12/27 week):
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8379282&postcount=454
Phife Dawg
Member
SMG will probably do better in the US, but Z&W will bomb just as hard. I think it'll do best in Europe come January.Stop It said:
Wait, weren't you in that Dead Rising and GoW go platinum thread? :lolLightning said:
As I said, there are certain things to consider with WiiFit, I don't think it'll have a huge opening week. These casual games usually don't start out with a bang. BA2 being the exception with a 400k opening week but that was after the first had become a smash hit and a cultural phenomenon (BA: 44k opening week :lol ).Magicpaint said:
So the expectations have nothing to do with SMG and are already more on the higher end. But that may have to do with Nintendo having big expectations for the title and thus probably have a big campaign to roll out.
Are you talking worldwide? Because WiiFit is only launching in Japan this year. If so, it may sell more since LCT is released in all major territories this year. If you are referring to Japan only. No way.Sho_Nuff82 said:
Eteric Rice
Member
botticus said:
Perhaps Sunshine caused distrust (is that the word I'm looking for?) towards Nintendo due to Sunshine being pretty bad.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Kurosaki Ichigo said:
No, this is very appreciated. Please continue to do it.
The Innocent X
Banned
I hope I never see another minigame as long as I live
Phife Dawg
Member
But they have been in gaming forever. Ah the fun to be had with Caveman Ugh-lympics.The Innocent X said:
The Innocent X
Banned
Phife Dawg said:
But never have they held the power over the industry they do now.
Sunshine wasn't bad. It just wasn't a Mario game.Eteric Rice said:
I floated this theory already a page back or so based on Phife Dawg's (I think?) discussion of possible WiiFit sale patterns due to the more casual market, but perhaps since the Wii has a more casual audience in Japan games that we consider "blockbuster" titles are going to start out slower but have longer life spans. More so than when compared to last generation.
As previously pointed out, casual gamers are not really the wait-in-line-overnight-for-a-new-game type. Especially since SMG hasn't been pushed that hard in Japan.
I think this is a more likely scenario than the Japanese feeling burned.
NA sure (though NES and SNES did really well in Japan too), but not so much Europe. I believe SNES is the most successful Nintendo console in Europe with 8.58 million shipped. (NES shipped 8.56 million.) Wii will almost definitely become the most successful Nintendo console in Europe ever.Lobster said:
Green Shinobi
Banned
Sunshine was the highest reviewed platformer last gen, but no one remembers that.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Green Shinobi said:
Yeah I'm not getting the hate retcon. I can understand hating the Blue Coins, but the game was still great. Specially the secret levels.