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Media Create Sales: 11/27 - 12/03

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Segata Sanshiro

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Sony really should have sat on at least one of the two launches, if not both until they had more units. Yes, missing the holiday season would be bad, but PSP proved you can launch in March to good numbers in NA, at least. If they had waited and stockpiled systems, they'd have sold all of the PS3s they are going to sell this year probably on day one, without the momentum loss that comes from perceived low sales and being outdone by a competitor for 4-6 months.

PS3 is nice hardware, but Sony's been using some very poor strategy all-around with it. Then again, they had good strategy with PSP and see where that got them.
 
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TheKingsCrown

Banned
Segata Sanshiro said:
Sony really should have sat on at least one of the two launches, if not both until they had more units. Yes, missing the holiday season would be bad, but PSP proved you can launch in March to good numbers in NA, at least. If they had waited and stockpiled systems, they'd have sold all of the PS3s they are going to sell this year probably on day one, without the momentum loss that comes from perceived low sales and being outdone by a competitor for 4-6 months.

PS3 is nice hardware, but Sony's been using some very poor strategy all-around with it. Then again, they had good strategy with PSP and see where that got them.
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O Rly?
 
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jett

D-Member
ethelred said:
Did it hit one million yet, Jett?
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Thank ye gods I didn't make any predictions regarding the PS3's japanese sales, huh?

Some people around these parts should just deal with the fact that they were wrong about FF3's eventual sales and now look like douches for jumping on me. :p
 
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ethelred

Member
jett said:
Thank ye gods I didn't make any predictions regarding the PS3's japanese sales, huh?

Some people around these parts should just deal with the fact that they were wrong about FF3's eventual sales and now look like douches for jumping on me. :p
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Because selling 900,000 instead of 1,000,000 is so stunning a rebuke, eh? Anyway, I've said all along we'll look at where the game stands at the end of the year, once Famitsu's yearly chart comes out. If I'm off by around 8, 9% on a prediction I made months ago, I can live with that.
 
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slaughterking

Member
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TheKingsCrown

Banned
Segata Sanshiro said:
Yes, I think their pre-launch strategy for the PSP was nearly perfect. That's sort of why it had the hype that it did. In comparison to how they've handled the PS3 launch, it's night and day.
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Strategy includes everything, even price. I believe they really missed the mark on price...not that they could have done anything about it.
 
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jett

D-Member
ethelred said:
Because selling 900,000 instead of 1,000,000 is so stunning a rebuke, eh?
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Totally.

p.s. People were predicting a hell of a lot more than 1 mill, and that that number was pretty much a given. Nobody said FF3 would crawl it's way to it. :p But hey, keep spinning the whole thing to your favor.
 
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ethelred

Member
jett said:
Totally.

p.s. People were predicting a hell of a lot more than 1 mill, and that that number was pretty much a given. Nobody said FF3 would crawl it's way to it. :p But hey, keep spinning the whole thing to your favor.
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Er, spinning? What's there to spin? I predicted that the game would hit a million (a number which was never a given, fyi, considering prior Square Enix performance on the GBA as well as considering historical sales of other remakes, like DQVr) by the end of the year.

I just think it's silly how you feel the need to try to, on a weekly basis, troll the sales of one of the most successful games of the year by mocking the fact that it hasn't hit a number only 10% higher than where it actually is.
 
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jarrod

Banned
jett said:
Thank ye gods I didn't make any predictions regarding the PS3's japanese sales, huh?

Some people around these parts should just deal with the fact that they were wrong about FF3's eventual sales and now look like douches for jumping on me. :p
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Considering you projected peak GBA level sales (naming DQM CV's 600k as an example), you'd be just as wrong though...
 
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Yamauchi

Banned
jett said:
Totally.

p.s. People were predicting a hell of a lot more than 1 mill, and that that number was pretty much a given. Nobody said FF3 would crawl it's way to it. :p But hey, keep spinning the whole thing to your favor.
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I actually predicted 500k.
 
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nextgeneration

Member
So it would seem. The logical conclusion: DOOM.
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Hahah, yeah, before we know it, we're going to have a bunch of people proclaim doom for Sony again. :lol

The one thing we can say for sure is that the shipment numbers are dangerously low and hasn't changed one bit since launch.
 
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OokieSpookie

Banned
nextgeneration said:
Hahah, yeah, before we know it, we're going to have a bunch of people proclaim doom for Sony again. :lol

The one thing we can say for sure is that the shipment numbers are dangerously low and hasn't changed one bit since launch.
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Low, but at least they are still getting new shipments out week to week.
 
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nextgeneration

Member
Low, but at least they are still getting new shipments out week to week.
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True, but still, the figures are dangerously low. I'm very curious to see how Nintendo fares in getting weekly Will shipments out in Japan, compared to Sony with PS3. I guess we'll find out next week! :)
 
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vitaflo

Member
It's looking like Sony is shipping about 35k PS3's per week in Japan. At that rate, it'd take 3 months to catch what the Wii did in 2 days. 0_o

They really need to step up thier production.
 
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CorwinB

Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
Yes, I think their pre-launch strategy for the PSP was nearly perfect. That's sort of why it had the hype that it did. In comparison to how they've handled the PS3 launch, it's night and day.
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Launch period for the PSP in JP and US was pretty much spot-on : very solid lineup, price was definitely ok, and they hit Nintendo badly during the DS software drought. Even UMD sales looked bright. :)

And then, it all went downhill from there and a long, long Easter began.
 
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Culex

Banned
The DS finally passes 7 million for this year! Quite an achievement Nintendo!

Not to mention there are still 4 full sales weeks for December, so if the supply holds out, we'll see the DS sell DOUBLE what it did last year! That's almost unheard of.
 
xaosslug

xaosslug

Member
SeaOfMadness said:
wait so ps3 sales went *down* from last week?
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that's usually a downside of "supply restraints" as you can only sell what you ship... 100k a week my ass. :lol

seriously, considering the price, I'm shocked it's selling at all.
 
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Raw64life

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jesusraz said:
31.) English Training (NDS, Nintendo)
32.) Red Steel (Wii, Ubisoft) - 9,392 / NEW
33.) SD Gundam (Wii, Bandai Namco) - 9,226 / NEW
34.) Final Fantasy V Advance (GBA, Square Enix)
35.) Ridge Racer 7 (PS3, Bandai Namco)
36.) Final Fantasy III (Incl. Bundled Edition) (NDS, Square Enix)
37.) Tamagotchi Party (Wii, Bandai Namco) - 8,042 / NEW
38.) Tamagotchi Corner Shop 2 (NDS, Bandai Namco)
39.) Cooking Navi (NDS, Nintendo)
40.) Gundam Target in Sight (PS3, Bandai Namco)
41.) Digimon (PS2, Bandai Namco)
42.) RESISTANCE (PS3, SCE)
43.) Super Robot Taisen (360, Banpresto)
44.) Tetris DS (NDS, Nintendo)
45.) Kanji Quiz (NDS, Rocket Company)
46.) Bandai Namco ETC Game (NDS)
47.) Elebits (Wii, Konami) - 5,791 / NEW
48.) Winning Eleven DS (Incl. Bundled Edition) (NDS, Konami)
49.) Brain Power - Tokyo Friend Park II (NDS, Rocket Company)
50.) Monster Hunter Portable (PSP the Best) (PSP, Capcom)
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Since Media Create revealed the sales numbers for all Wii games, we can get a good idea of the sales for alot of games in the 31-50 range. For the people arguing over FFIII sales, it looks like it did a little over 8k this week.
 
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Axord

Member
Magicpaint said:
It's selling much better than the GC :p
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True, I think with JP LTD the PSP is ahead of the GC by 2 million at a comparable point. But comparing these last five weeks of sales with the same span in the GC's life, it looks like the weekly gap is around a few thousand. With the GC leading twice.

And these are November PSP sales going up against August GC sales. It's hard to say it's selling "much better" right now. But is five weeks a significant amount of time? I dunno.

Adjusting for the December sales effect, the PSP will do around 37,000 this week if it is indeed acting like the GC.
 
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JoshuaJSlone

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Regular Pac-Man
pacchartweekly.php

http://joshuajamesslone.name/gamecharting/pacchartweekly.php?date1=2006-11-27
Portable Pac-Man
test11pacportable.php

http://joshuajamesslone.name/gamecharting/test11pacportable.php?date1=2006-11-27
Console Pac-Man
test11pacconsole.php

http://joshuajamesslone.name/gamecharting/test11pacconsole.php?date1=2006-11-27

Link to the manufacturer Pac chart like slaughterking's.

So I copied/modified my PSP/DS comparison columns that started my spreadsheet a couple years ago for PS3/Wii. What's interesting to see...
*Of the Wii/PS3 share, Wii had 91.8% of sales. Other than launch week when PSP wasn't out, the best DS ever did in DS/PSP share was 91.6%.
*In the "If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued to sell at this rate" column, we see that PS3 would catch up to Wii on January 8, 2007.
*Though the Wii total is nearly double that of the PS3 total, the PS3 currently has more human-weeks of ownership, since most PS3 owners got theirs at launch and have had it for several weeks. Currently it's PS3 with 456K weeks ownership versus Wii with 175K weeks ownership. By next week Wii should take the lead, though.

Here is a line chart showing X360/PS3/Wii cumulative sales in Japan. I go one week beyond present so you can see the numbers crashing to 0; otherwise Wii just marks a single dot and can't be seen.

Culex said:
Not to mention there are still 4 full sales weeks for December, so if the supply holds out, we'll see the DS sell DOUBLE what it did last year! That's almost unheard of.
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Didn't they already give a number for DS supply? And it was nowhere near enough to reach double last December, which would require something like 3.5 million units?
 
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Culex

Banned
I figured I'd throw in a month by month comparo between the PSP and DS too. The difference in sales between 2005 and 2006 are simply staggering.

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Oh and JoshuaJSlone, I'm referring to the YTD for 2005 and 2006. If the DS sells through in the next 4 periods 1.25 million, it will have sold double what it did in 2005.
 
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SleazyC

Member
Here's the money question:

If Sony could actually manufacture 100k PS3s a week would they still be selling out of them?
 
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JoshuaJSlone

Member
Pope Benedict XVI said:
:lol

It's very kind-hearted of you to offer the SDF a new catchphrase, Joshua :)
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:lol Actually it's not very flattering. The point of measuring ownership like that is to better compare total game sales. If somehow Wii sold 50 million units today, we shouldn't expect them to double PS2 game sales on that day, because they just haven't had as long to purchase games. So PS3 with more weeks of ownership might be expected to have more software sold.

Of course, I believe this is a less fair comparison at launch. Launch people will probably be happy with their launch-purchased games for a while.
 
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Pope Benedict XVI

Member
SleazyC said:
Here's the money question:

If Sony could actually manufacture 100k PS3s a week would they still be selling out of them?
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Well Blackace, and i think someone else too, were saying that they saw PS3's sitting on shelves when they went to buy Blue Dragon.....but yeah I suppose they would basically sell all units
 
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rawk

Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
If somehow Wii sold 50 million units today, we shouldn't expect them to double PS2 game sales on that day, because they just haven't had as long to purchase games. So PS3 with more weeks of ownership might be expected to have more software sold.
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I see your point, and I like it.
 
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kisakiproject

Member
Rock_Man said:
YTD / LTD

Wii 350,358 / 350,358
DSL 6,132,183 / 6,132,183
PS3 187,836 / 187,836
PSP 1,564,018 / 4,246,974
PS2 1,297,667 / 20,002,291
Xbox360 107,503 / 178,069
GBASP 215,240 / 5,907,676
GBM 136,719 / 552,408
GC 72,060 / 4,165,650
DS 934,599 / 6,581,548
GBA 3,292 / 8,822,942
Xbox 1,746 / 475,589
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PS3 finally overtook 360. Though next week is Bluedragon. Dissapointing that both DOAX2 and CS dropped off the top 50. 360 games have no legs. That means both sold less than 5k this week. :(
 
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Rock_Man

Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
Here is a line chart showing X360/PS3/Wii cumulative sales in Japan. I go one week beyond present so you can see the numbers crashing to 0; otherwise Wii just marks a single dot and can't be seen.
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Wouldn't it be nicer and more correct to start with a 0?
 
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