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jarrod · Feb 23, 2007

Brak said:
That breakdown will be really interesting at this time next year. Nintendo is planning on shipping over 25 mil DSL and who knows how that is going to be divided among the territories.

I don't think it's impossible for Europe to double their userbase if Nintendo ships them enough. The DS seems to be gaining a lot of momentum over there, especially in France, Germany, and the UK.

I'd imagine Japan's likely to start reaching saturation after the next 5m or so... at which point, we'll likely see America and Europe take the leads for growth. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the next fiscal cycle sees something like 10m NA, 10m EU and 5m JP.

Sho_Nuff82 · Feb 23, 2007

The catch 22 with that scenario is that if Zelda sold the same as Wii sports, everyone would be spitting out the old "The Wii is only selling to hardcore Nintendo fans" bit, which we've seen run into the ground with the 3 months of NPD threads.

If anything, it's promising for the Wii's future in Japan if older established series are fading in popularity.

Forgotten Ancient · Feb 23, 2007

Sho_Nuff82 said:
The catch 22 with that scenario is that if Zelda sold the same as Wii sports, everyone would be spitting out the old "The Wii is only selling to hardcore Nintendo fans" bit, which we've seen run into the ground with the 3 months of NPD threads.

If anything, it's promising for the Wii's future in Japan if older established series are fading in popularity.

How so? Nintendo's making a killing on their new IPs, but Mario, Pokemon, and Animal Crossing (All Old series) are very important to them as well.

Besides, isn't the virtual console predominately older, established games?

gamergirly · Feb 23, 2007

Sho_Nuff82 said:
The catch 22 with that scenario is that if Zelda sold the same as Wii sports, everyone would be spitting out the old "The Wii is only selling to hardcore Nintendo fans" bit, which we've seen run into the ground with the 3 months of NPD threads.

If anything, it's promising for the Wii's future in Japan if older established series are fading in popularity.

This is GAF. You can never win. The absolute truth is death.

Oblivion · Feb 23, 2007

jarrod said:
I'd imagine Japan's likely to start reaching saturation after the next 5m or so... at which point, we'll likely see America and Europe take the leads for growth. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if the next fiscal cycle sees something like 10m NA, 10m EU and 5m JP.

Jarrod, I asked you this before, but you never answered.

Do you have Japan Yoshi's Island (and possibly WW) sales?

duckroll · Feb 23, 2007

ethelred said:
Well, for those who've been following the "Will Atlus ever ship/sell a decent amount of Sekaiju" Saga (IE, me, ducky, and Magicpaint), Famitsu puts the game at 61k now through 02/11.

Progress, people!

Interesting, it's charting much higher on Enterbrain than Media Create.

jj984jj · Feb 24, 2007

I still don't get why Atlus didn't ship more, still burned from Trauma Center's performance in Japan?

jarrod · Feb 24, 2007

Oblivion said:
Jarrod, I asked you this before, but you never answered. Do you have Japan Yoshi's Island (and possibly WW) sales?

Nope... but Brosh's site has shipment data...

JP~ 1.77m
NA~ 1.68m
EU~ 0.67m
WW~ 4.12m

starship · Feb 24, 2007

LanceStern said:
I was expecting more for Zelda. Not really expecting, but hoping for Wii Sports/Play success, it really deserves it. That 300k is DS and handhelds.

Double Standard ftl loser.

creamsugar · Feb 24, 2007

13　DS　育島　25000　131000　89
25　PS3　VF5　10000　59000　56
28　DS　よ！　10000　112000　91
30　DS　漢検　10000　438000　93
33　DS　and　8600　890000　80
37　DS　アー　7700　33000　61
41　Wii　Zelda:TP　7500　394000　90
49　Wii　ExciteTruck　5300　50000　75
54　DS　FF3　4500　991000　90
56　PSP　プス　4200　360000　94
67　DS　パル　2700　7800　48
70　GBA　エメ　2600　1800000　99
79　PSP　ロジー　2200　239000　94
84　Wii　Elebits　2100　48000　81
88　Wii　CookingMama　1900　5600　24
91　PSP　魔窟　1900　15000　70

I only traslate Wii titles

Raw64life · Feb 24, 2007

54　DS　FF3　4500　991000　90

People who didn't think FF3 would break a million prepare to eat crow in the near future.

Avalon · Feb 24, 2007

jj984jj said:
I still don't get why Atlus didn't ship more, still burned from Trauma Center's performance in Japan?

Isn't there a shortage of DS carts or something?

ethelred · Feb 24, 2007

creamsugar said:
54　DS　FF3　4500　991000　90

Just a leeeeeetle bit further.

jj984jj · Feb 24, 2007

Avalon said:
Isn't there a shortage of DS carts or something?

Supposedly the shortage for SnMQ has ended though.

Avalon · Feb 24, 2007

jj984jj said:
Supposedly the shortage for SnMQ has ended though.

I remember something about the shortage keeping DQ:MJ of the charts for a week or so... Who exactly distributes the carts?

Busaiku · Feb 24, 2007

Wow, The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess is selling 90% of its shipment, and people think it's doing horribly.

AniHawk · Feb 24, 2007

Busaiku said:
Wow, The Legend Of Zelda: Twilight Princess is selling 90% of its shipment, and people think it's doing horribly.

Well people don't know that it's only selling 90% of its shipment.

jj984jj · Feb 24, 2007

Avalon said:
I remember something about the shortage keeping DQ:MJ of the charts for a week or so... Who exactly distributes the carts?

I don't know but I'm guessing it's one company that makes them all for everyone including Nintendo if Nintendo doesn't make them them-selves.

Link · Feb 24, 2007

gamergirly said:
This is GAF. You can never win. The absolute truth is death.

Link?

HyperZone<3 · Feb 24, 2007

creamsugar said:
13　DS　育島　25000　131000　89
25　PS3　VF5　10000　59000　56
28　DS　よ！　10000　112000　91
30　DS　漢検　10000　438000　93
33　DS　and　8600　890000　80
37　DS　アー　7700　33000　61
41　Wii　Zelda:TP　7500　394000　90
49　Wii　ExciteTruck　5300　50000　75
54　DS　FF3　4500　991000　90
56　PSP　プス　4200　360000　94
67　DS　パル　2700　7800　48
70　GBA　エメ　2600　1800000　99
79　PSP　ロジー　2200　239000　94
84　Wii　Elebits　2100　48000　81
88　Wii　CookingMama　1900　5600　24
91　PSP　魔窟　1900　15000　70

I only traslate Wii titles

Where'd you get that? Point me towards it, the more #'s the better.

Vilix · Feb 24, 2007

jj984jj said:
I don't know but I'm guessing it's one company that makes them all for everyone including Nintendo if Nintendo doesn't make them them-selves.

No, it's Nintendo. They still control every part of hardware and software with an iron fist. Doesn't matter if it's first party or third. Their licensing rates are more competitive now.

apotema · Feb 24, 2007

I'll try to translate, please someone confirm or correct

13　DS　育島　25000　131000　89 (Harvest Moon)
25　PS3　VF5　10000　59000　56 (Virtua Fighter 5... duh)
28　DS　よ！　10000　112000　91 (Puyo Puyo)
30　DS　漢検　10000　438000　93 (Kanji Game)
33　DS　and　8600　890000　80 (Love and Berry)
37　DS　アー　7700　33000　61 (Luminous Arc)
41　Wii　Zelda:TP　7500　394000　90
49　Wii　ExciteTruck　5300　50000　75
54　DS　FF3　4500　991000　90 (FF3 ..... duh)
56　PSP　プス　4200　360000　94 (MHP The Best)
67　DS　パル　2700　7800　48 ?????
70　GBA　エメ　2600　1800000　99 ????? (1.8 M?)
79　PSP　ロジー　2200　239000　94 MGS PO???
84　Wii　Elebits　2100　48000　81
88　Wii　CookingMama　1900　5600　24
91　PSP　魔窟　1900　15000　70 ????

A Link to the Past · Feb 24, 2007

I'd go out on a limb and say the GBA game is Pokémon Emerald.

cvxfreak · Feb 24, 2007

13　DS　Harvest Moon The Island I Grew Up On　25000　131000　89
25　PS3　Virtua Fighter 5　10000　59000　56
28　DS　Puyo Puyo DS　10000　112000　91
30　DS　Kanji Kanken　10000　438000　93
33　DS　Love and Berry　8600　890000　80
37　DS　Luminous Arc　7700　33000　61
41　Wii　Zelda:TP　7500　394000　90
49　Wii　ExciteTruck　5300　50000　75
54　DS　Final Fantasy III　4500　991000　90
56　PSP　Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops　4200　360000　94
67　DS　???　2700　7800　48
70　GBA　Pokemon Emerald　2600　1800000　99
79　PSP　Tales of the World Radiant Mythology　2200　239000　94
84　Wii　Elebits　2100　48000　81
88　Wii　Cooking Mama　1900　5600　24
91　PSP　???　1900　15000　70

Jiggy · Feb 24, 2007

jesusraz said:
Intelligent Systems has finished with WarioWare: Smooth Moves, completed Fire Emblem: Goddess of Dawn and since Super Paper Mario is out in April I presume development is fast wrapping up on that as well. So what next? Probably not a Paper Mario for DS just yet, Panel de Pon DS is likely by them...but it IS an old puzzle game just spruced up slightly. Hardly enough to prevent work starting on FE DS. Anything else they're doing that I'm obviously missing?

Well, in fairness, there have been two Fire Emblem games since AWDS, which puts the two series at a 5:3 ratio, favoring FE, when considering only Intelligent Systems' GBA, GC, and Wii output. Not sure how high an AWDS2 is on the priority list since the series seems to do much better in the US than Japan, and even then not as well as Fire Emblem (much less Paper Mario), but just saying.

cvxfreak · Feb 24, 2007

Jiggy37 said:
Well, in fairness, there have been two Fire Emblem games since AWDS, which puts the two series at a 5:3 ratio, favoring FE, when considering only Intelligent Systems' GBA, GC, and Wii output. Not sure how high an AWDS2 is on the priority list since the series seems to do much better in the US than Japan, and even then not as well as Fire Emblem (much less Paper Mario), but just saying.

The third Fire Emblem for GBA and the one for GC were released in Japan before AWDS, though.

Dalthien · Feb 24, 2007

cvxfreak said:
13　DS　Harvest Moon The Island I Grew Up On　25000　131000　89
25　PS3　Virtua Fighter 5　10000　59000　56
28　DS　Puyo Puyo DS　10000　112000　91
30　DS　Kanji Kanken　10000　438000　93
33　DS　Love and Berry　8600　890000　80
37　DS　Luminous Arc　7700　33000　61
41　Wii　Zelda:TP　7500　394000　90
49　Wii　ExciteTruck　5300　50000　75
54　DS　Final Fantasy III　4500　991000　90
56　PSP　Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops　4200　360000　94
67　DS　???　2700　7800　48
70　GBA　Pokemon Emerald　2600　1800000　99
79　PSP　Tales of the World Radiant Mythology　2200　239000　94
84　Wii　Elebits　2100　48000　81
88　Wii　Cooking Mama　1900　5600　24
91　PSP　???　1900　15000　70

I think #91 is Lost Regnum: Makutsu no Koutei.

Does anyone know what #67 is?

apotema · Feb 24, 2007

It may be Jet Impulse, I dont know

cvxfreak · Feb 24, 2007

apotema said:
It may be Jet Impulse, I dont know

Might very well be it actually.

Pureauthor · Feb 24, 2007

I'd like to make a request - can any GAFfers with photoshop skills create a medal that reads 'Official Non-Game'?

We can hand those medals out when stuff like FF3 or Wii Play breaks a million units sold.

Dalthien · Feb 24, 2007

Thanks apotema and cvxfreak - I think you're correct. And thanks for the data creamsugar.

Kurosaki Ichigo · Feb 24, 2007

cvxfreak said:
79　PSP　Tales of the World Radiant Mythology　2200　239000　94

Oooh, we lost track of it before reaching 200k, now its the best selling Tales on PSP!

Maybe Namco notices that a new spinoff is doing better than main entries ports....they should try with a new main entry.

jj984jj · Feb 24, 2007

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Oooh, we lost track of it before reaching 200k, now its the best selling Tales on PSP!

Maybe Namco notices that a new spinoff is doing better than main entries ports....they should try with a new main entry.

By DIMPS!

plank · Feb 24, 2007

Japanese sales feb 22

1. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (inkl. Bundle) (PSP, Capcom): Approx 500,000
2. Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami (Wii, Nintendo): Approx 50,000
3. Naruto Shippuuden: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX WII (Wii, Takara Tomy): Approx 20,000
4. Sim City DS (NDS, EA): Approx 20,000
5. Trigger Heart Exelica (DC, Warashi): Approx 10,000
6. Riot Act [Crackdown] (Xbox 360, Microsoft): Approx 10,000
7. Metal Slug Complete (PSP, SNK Playmore): Approx 10,00

Moor-Angol · Feb 24, 2007

cvxfreak said:
13　DS　Harvest Moon The Island I Grew Up On　25000　131000　89
25　PS3　Virtua Fighter 5　10000　59000　56
28　DS　Puyo Puyo DS　10000　112000　91
30　DS　Kanji Kanken　10000　438000　93
33　DS　Love and Berry　8600　890000　80
37　DS　Luminous Arc　7700　33000　61
41　Wii　Zelda:TP　7500　394000　90
49　Wii　ExciteTruck　5300　50000　75
54　DS　Final Fantasy III　4500　991000　90
56　PSP　Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops　4200　360000　94
67　DS　???　2700　7800　48
70　GBA　Pokemon Emerald　2600　1800000　99
79　PSP　Tales of the World Radiant Mythology　2200　239000　94
84　Wii　Elebits　2100　48000　81
88　Wii　Cooking Mama　1900　5600　24
91　PSP　???　1900　15000　70

this chart comes from Dengeki?

Cause Famitsu already had Zelda TPP >400k on week ending on Feb.11th

Rock_Man · Feb 24, 2007

Moor-Angol said:
this chart comes from Dengeki?

Media Create.

Moor-Angol · Feb 24, 2007

so Zelda LTD from MC are lower than LTD from Famitsu, interesting... usually it's the opposite

Eteric Rice · Feb 24, 2007

plank said:
Japanese sales feb 22

1. Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (inkl. Bundle) (PSP, Capcom): Approx 500,000
2. Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami (Wii, Nintendo): Approx 50,000
3. Naruto Shippuuden: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX WII (Wii, Takara Tomy): Approx 20,000
4. Sim City DS (NDS, EA): Approx 20,000
5. Trigger Heart Exelica (DC, Warashi): Approx 10,000
6. Riot Act [Crackdown] (Xbox 360, Microsoft): Approx 10,000
7. Metal Slug Complete (PSP, SNK Playmore): Approx 10,00

This one day sales or something? Interesting.

Kurosaki Ichigo · Feb 24, 2007

First day sales from neoplay (more accurate and shipment sell-through)

PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 500.000 (77%)
PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2nd Bundle - 15.000 (74%)

Wii Fire Emblem Akatsuki no Megami - 50.000 (37%)
Wii Naruto Shippuuden: Gekitou Ninja Taisen EX - 20.000 (36%)

PS2 Higurashi no Naku Koro ni Matsuri Normal Edition - 20.000 (72%)
PS2 Lupin III: Lupin ni wa Shi o, Zenigata ni wa Koi o - 10.000 (31%)
PS2 Garou Densetsu Battle Archive 2 - 3.200 (48%)

PSP Metal Slug Complete - 4.200 (40%)

NDS Sim City DS - 24.000 (51%)
NDS Keroro Gunsou - 8.000 (23%)

DC Trigger Heart Exelica - 10.000 (72%)

360 Riot Act - 11.000 (56%)

BrodiemanTTR · Feb 24, 2007

Wow @ Sim City. I'd say "Good job EA!", but

they already fired the team that made the game.

Surprising to see Nintendo ship 150k Fire Emblem to retail, pretty high for a niche game on a new platform.

Moor-Angol · Feb 24, 2007

Kurosaki Ichigo said:
PSP Monster Hunter Portable 2nd Bundle - 15.000 (74%)

next chart will have only 50k PSP sold ? so probably still DSL > PSP

Busaiku · Feb 24, 2007

Ouch, both Wii games seem to be doing fairly substandard numbers.

Jammy · Feb 24, 2007

Busaiku said:
Ouch, both Wii games seem to be doing fairly substandard numbers.

Naruto Wii is, but apparently you don't know the standard for Fire Emblem sales.

Busaiku · Feb 24, 2007

Jammy said:
Naruto Wii is, but apparently you don't know the standard for Fire Emblem sales.

I'm just going by how much of their shipment they managed to sell. Both are doing under 40%.
I realize that Fire Emblem isn't the biggest franchise, and the GCN version only sold like 170k (or something?), but yeah, I'm not really basing it off of that.

Eteric Rice · Feb 24, 2007

Maybe Monster Hunters hampered everyone's sales? Who knows..

ethelred · Feb 24, 2007

Eteric Rice said:
Maybe Monster Hunters hampered everyone's sales? Who knows..

Or maybe Nintendo just killed gaming.

Pureauthor · Feb 24, 2007

They decided fighting their way through the rabid crowd wasn't worth it.

"Excuse me, if you could move a couple inches to the left, I could reach over and maybe brush that copy of Fire Emblem with my fingers..."

"..."

"Uh, hello? Do you speak Japanese? Hello? Hello?"

"..."

"Um, excuse me, sir? There's something wrong here."

"Aw, crud. Yo, Kensuke! We've got another dead one here!"

"Drag him out and dump him in the back with the rest!"

"... (Maybe I can come back next week.)"

Eteric Rice · Feb 24, 2007

ethelred said:
Or maybe Nintendo just killed gaming.

:lol

Fuzzy · Feb 24, 2007

ethelred said:
Or maybe Nintendo just killed gaming.

There's no maybe about it.

Blablurn · Feb 24, 2007

it seems like the only thing the japanese want to play is wii sports. every other game is 4tl at the moment. and it seems like fire emblem is nintendo's "virtua fighter" compared to the sales.

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