DeaconKnowledge
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Oh My Gawd said:
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Media Create Sales 2/12 - 2/18
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davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
DeaconKnowledge said:
go light on him, please. he really doesn't mean it
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Oh My Gawd said:
The DS has had five third party million sellers, 3 in 06, 2 in 05, and those are solid numbers because to be honest, they were largely on Japan's back, which we get reliable numbers for. Not bad considering the near 15 or so million-sellers published by Nintendo. The PSP has had 6 third party million sellers if bullcharts is to be believed, and I frankly trust the Euro #'s he has as far as I can throw a Hearse. 5 of them hit in 05, 0 in 06, and now the latest will be in 07. Connect the dots, chum.
PSP's budgets I think are not as out of hand as people think they are due to massively re-used resources. Only particular original titles I think cost significantly more than DS titles. Coincidently, every one of those titles has bombed with the fury of a thousand suns.
That said, I agree with your main point - the PSP is not the Gamecube. Because at least first-party stuff sold on the Cube. Jack shite is selling on the PSP, third or first party. And I'm frightful sure that's not the distinction you were looking for.
Oh My Gawd said:
The funny thing is that you would still be making this same argument if DS only had first party games which sold 20 million copies each. A system's success is not based on the amount of third party million sellers. If a DS 3rd party game can sell 2/3 as much as a PSP game and make the company the same amount of profit, then why are you comparing 1 million to 1 million? shouldn't you be comparing 666,666 to 1 million?
And yes, the PSP is the true video iPod.
DemonSwordsman
Banned
Sony really needs to release a new psp that is hackproof atleast make it harder to hack than now where any assclown can do it. Thats the main problem.
And the point is that psp has better sales for 3rd party games so they are not gonna stop supporting it because they will get better sales than the DS.
And the point is that psp has better sales for 3rd party games so they are not gonna stop supporting it because they will get better sales than the DS.
Kobun Heat
Member
HE IS BROKEN IN HAYULF
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Oh My Gawd said:
Only one of them released in the last year. Hmm...
There have been 3 DS third party million sellers in Japan alone. Tamagotchi Corner Shop, FF3, DQMJ.
You could also say that third party attempts on DS have been pathetic, and the bulk of those 35 million units only came in the last 6-12 months. Developers have only recently shifted resources to DS.
NOT LIKE IT MATTERS, SINCE THIRD PARTIES KEEP SWITCHING FROM PSP TO DS. If their PSP projects are so lucrative, explain to me why this is happening.
PSP software sales bombed out in 2006, period. DS is on an upswing, its software sales will only go up. Third party and first party.
PSP software got outsold by ****ing XBox and Gamecube over Christmas in NA. Xbox and GameCube. XBox isn't even in ****ing manufacture anymore.
Fine, then we don't even need to reference sales of any kind. All we have to do is point to all the developers who have shifted support from PSP to DS. EA, Sega, and others have made direct public announcements of this shift in strategy. Square Enix has made an obvious shift. I would name others that I'm pretty sure announced a shift in development, but I'm sure someone else can do it with more certainty.
If third parties were happy with their sales, they wouldn't be actively pulling out. Period. It doesn't matter what the numbers look like to us.
Nongamers are truly killing the industry.
And iPod is truly killing PSP in your ludicrous comparo.
iPod game sales > PSP game salesAniHawk said:
AdmiralViscen
Banned
AdmiralViscen said:
Please explain if you'd like to continue this hilarious discussion. I won't be continuing otherwise.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Kevar said:
PSP web site > ipod games site
its true.
Wyndstryker
Member
AdmiralViscen said:
You might have scared him out of the thread...
Anyone else looking forward to this weeks M-create chart with more anticipation?Oh My Gawd said:
Every other week, its the biggen. This is that "other" week.
Thank god for new members huh?
Oh, and yeah;
PSP is comparable to the ipod. it rules, just like the ipod
take the bait, take the bait. TAKE IT TAKE IT.
DemonSwordsman
Banned
psps better than an ipod.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Epiphyte said:
I think it suddenly crashed out around 700-800k when they couldn't manufacture those card scanners anymore. I could be wrong, I dunno.
I have got to start visiting GAF occasionally on weekends. I miss out on the best
discussions.
So, anyone think MHP2 will sell out it's total shipment? I think it can pull it off.
Most recent MC numbers have it at 890k, not sure if it's still selling decently, but it might limp to a million by the end of the year. No telling what will happen if it gets a western release though (but that seems ridiculously unlikely).
horrifying
So, anyone think MHP2 will sell out it's total shipment? I think it can pull it off.
Epiphyte said:
Most recent MC numbers have it at 890k, not sure if it's still selling decently, but it might limp to a million by the end of the year. No telling what will happen if it gets a western release though (but that seems ridiculously unlikely).
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Finally, FINALLY this thread achieved it's glory. The PSP is now the fukcing iPOD. Who ****ing knew.
Oh. My. Gawd.
Oh. My. Gawd.
Wyndstryker
Member
Next thing you know someone will say it's better than a PC in multimedia capabilities...
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
Wyndstryker said:
It's true, PSP > PC.
I use it to type my 10 page essays on it all the time.....oh wait :lol
Chris Michael
Banned
BLOODY ****ING JUNIORS! KILL IT WITH FIRE
Oh My Gawd
Banned
It's completely true. Only similarities between PSP and Gamecube is they play games. The end.
PSP and Ipod are similar in the way they both play games, video, MP3, Portability, even PSP and Ipod market and intended userbase is more similar than PSP and GCN...
PSP and Ipod are similar in the way they both play games, video, MP3, Portability, even PSP and Ipod market and intended userbase is more similar than PSP and GCN...
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
its true.
Oh My Gawd
Banned
Juice said:
Well that's wrong simply by defualt. In 2 years, its already has a bigger fanbase in an untapped market. Gamecube was a successor to a console that sold 32 million, a number PSP userbase will also eventually pass.
Defining PSP a failure for being a multimedia device isn't reasonable, its not just gaming and people do buy it solely for it's other features, thus software is obviously not going to be as great as a medium centered completely around the idea of gaming.
I'm pretty sure you all already know this an djust like to troll it becuase it has the Sony brand though.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Oh My Gawd said:
Shit, you're onto us. EVERYONE, PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE SOFTWARE SALES ISSUES OF THE PSP. IT'S HOW SONY MEANT IT TO HAPPEN, AND NO ONE EXPECTED ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
God damn it, now I have to acknowledge Paris Hilton's existence...you've made an enemy today, Mr. Junior Gawd.
LanceStern
Banned
If you guys can't find a legitimate rebuttle or argument, will you quit with the sarcasm and taking every word from a poster out of context?
While Oh My Gawd may be contentious and come off as foolish, you guys are no better with:
- The elitism ("OH my gawd the juniors!!!"). You were all juniors once so quit it.
- Calling PSP a failure as big as GCN. Wrong in 2 ways that GCN wasn't a failure, and PSP certainly isn't a failure, gaining almost as big as the GCN fanbase worldwide (and Xbox for that matter) in 2 years what they did in 4.
- PSP software sales for third party titles in the US are still decent. USED to be better than DS's but now with the proportions to the sales, it's about even. Even the first party is doing well and decent.
To look at it another way, PSP software is selling about what's expected to PSP hardware (a little behind though), and same for DS. Both 3rd and First party.
- PSP is more comparable to ipod than GCN. The look, the design, the functions, and the way they were advertised all scream comparison.
Gosh, every freaking thread. Someone brings up one point someone doesn't agree with, and everyone jumps on it with sarcasm, stupid images, calling it BS etc.
While Oh My Gawd may be contentious and come off as foolish, you guys are no better with:
- The elitism ("OH my gawd the juniors!!!"). You were all juniors once so quit it.
- Calling PSP a failure as big as GCN. Wrong in 2 ways that GCN wasn't a failure, and PSP certainly isn't a failure, gaining almost as big as the GCN fanbase worldwide (and Xbox for that matter) in 2 years what they did in 4.
- PSP software sales for third party titles in the US are still decent. USED to be better than DS's but now with the proportions to the sales, it's about even. Even the first party is doing well and decent.
To look at it another way, PSP software is selling about what's expected to PSP hardware (a little behind though), and same for DS. Both 3rd and First party.
- PSP is more comparable to ipod than GCN. The look, the design, the functions, and the way they were advertised all scream comparison.
Gosh, every freaking thread. Someone brings up one point someone doesn't agree with, and everyone jumps on it with sarcasm, stupid images, calling it BS etc.
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/financial/fr/06q3_sony.pdf
"Worldwide software production shipments (and increase/decrease compared to the same quarter of the previous fiscal year):
PSP: 21.2 million units (an increase of 4.1 million units)"
Bad software sales? Ok...
"Worldwide software production shipments (and increase/decrease compared to the same quarter of the previous fiscal year):
PSP: 21.2 million units (an increase of 4.1 million units)"
Bad software sales? Ok...
LanceStern
Banned
Defuser said:
Gotta love that elitism, despite the majority of users here who use GameFAQs "mentality" to tell them how to play a game with it's vast collection of FAQs
Segata Sanshiro
Member
LanceStern said:
Lance, did you happen to catch that line I bolded in his last post? His point, which is a good one, would come through a lot better if it wasn't wrapped in six layers of partisan bullshit. You're bloody right I'll respond with sarcasm in that situation. Why should I treat him seriously when he can't even attempt to diffuse himself from his company bias?
And GameFAQs hating has never been about the FAQs, or really, the writers of those FAQs, but rather about the throngs of 8-year olds that clog up their message boards alongside the FAQ authors.