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[jesusraz]

You don't normally get those until Wednesday.

No, sorry, you misunderstand me. I'm referring to this week's chart as in the week this topic relates to. We normally get some random MC numbers from the likes of 2ch shortly after the full Top 50 and hardware numbers are released. But that would require someone with Japanese knowledge to check it out...Last week someone randomly posted a list on creamsugar's website.

 

[medrew]

you mean like this?

13　DS　Harvest Moon The Island I Grew Up On　25000　131000　89
25　PS3　Virtua Fighter 5　10000　59000　56
28　DS　Puyo Puyo DS　10000　112000　91
30　DS　Kanji Kanken　10000　438000　93
33　DS　Love and Berry　8600　890000　80
37　DS　Luminous Arc　7700　33000　61
41　Wii　Zelda:TP　7500　394000　90
49　Wii　ExciteTruck　5300　50000　75
54　DS　Final Fantasy III　4500　991000　90
56　PSP　Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops　4200　360000　94
67　DS　???　2700　7800　48
70　GBA　Pokemon Emerald　2600　1800000　99
79　PSP　Tales of the World Radiant Mythology　2200　239000　94
84　Wii　Elebits　2100　48000　81
88　Wii　Cooking Mama　1900　5600　24
91　PSP　???　1900　15000　70

 

[jesusraz]

you mean like this?

Thanks Been away a couple of days. I'd normally have trudged through, but the whole PSP-GC comparison debate seemed too painful to read...Anyway, thanks again.

Very pleasing to see Harvest Moon doing so well. Would this make it the most popular version so far? And shame to see Luminous Arc drop so quickly...

Did anyone eventually translate these two:

67.) DS ??? - 2,700 | 7,800 [ 48% ]
91.) PSP ??? - 1,900 | 15,000 [ 70% ]

? Could 67.) be Jet Impulse, perhaps?

 

[jarrod]

Shipped is not sold

Don't copy my statements !

Production shipped is not shipped

At least get it right. :lol


Anyway, likely 3rd party million sellers for both would be...

Nintendo DS
-Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker (Square Enix)
-Final Fantasy III (Square Enix)
-Oshare Majo Love and Berry (SEGA)
-Sonic Rush (SEGA)
-Tamagotchi Connection: Corner Shop (Namco Bandai)

PSP
-Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (Rockstar)
-Monster Hunter Freedom (Capcom)
-Need for Speed: Most Wanted (EA)
-Need For Speed: Underground Rivals (EA)
-Ridge Racers (Namco)
-Star Wars: Battlefront II (Lucasarts)

PSP has one more worldwide million seller, but DS has 3 more single region million sellers. Then again, DS also has 19 1st party million sellers, while PSP has 2.

 

[Jonnyram]

According to Tsutaya guy on Mainichi, MH2psp sold 700k first week:
http://www.mainichi-msn.co.jp/entertainment/game/gamenews/news/20070227org00m300050000c.html

I hope M.Create is a bit higher, so you can see how stunningly accurate my prediction skills are (maybe Namco will employ me, then - Gundam Musou will sell 1 million lol)

 

[Magicpaint]

Wow, 700K first week is higher than both DQMJ and FFIII DS. This game could easily top 2 million. Amazing sales.

I'm curious about hardware numbers now.

 

[jarrod]

(maybe Namco will employ me, then - Gundam Musou will sell 1 million lol)

Namco actually said 2 million for Gundam Musou iirc (1m for Gundam + 1m for Musou = 2 million total). :lol

 

[ethelred]

Wow, 700K first week is higher than both DQMJ and FFIII DS. This game could easily top 2 million. Amazing sales.

I'm curious about hardware numbers now.

It only goes to reaffirm that the PSP really is a phenomenal software success. It'll continue to have more third party million sellers than the DS at this rate.

Namco actually said 2 million for Gundam Musou iirc (1m for Gundam + 1m for Musou = 2 million total). :lol

:lol Bzzzzt. No, Namco didn't, try again. :lol

 

[kitchenmotors]

Wow, 700K first week is higher than both DQMJ and FFIII DS. This game could easily top 2 million. Amazing sales.

I'm curious about hardware numbers now.

Both DQMJ and FFIII have had legs for a while. Those MH sales are most likely a load blown right from the start. 2 million is not going to happen.

 

[Magicpaint]

Can't say I'm surprised with their 2m expectation. It's Namco being namco! :lol

It only goes to reaffirm that the PSP really is a phenomenal software success. It'll continue to have more third party million sellers than the DS at this rate.

Indeed, SEGA and EA will now have to reconsider giving the PSP more focused support.

Both DQMJ and FFIII have had legs for a while. Those MH sales are most likely a load blown right from the start. 2 million is not going to happen.

I'm merely saying this because the first had incredible legs, maybe the second will emulate the first in the same way BT2 emulated the original? I dunno!

 

[ethelred]

Can't say I'm surprised with their 2m expectation. It's Namco being namco! :lol

Namco never said that, though, that's the problem. This is Jarrod being Jarrod.

Namco's estimate was much more conservative than that.

Both DQMJ and FFIII have had legs for a while. Those MH sales are most likely a load blown right from the start.

Bold prediction, given how MHP has stayed in the charts.

 

[cank stoochie]

sony just cant compete with nintendo when it comes to handheld franchises. i think sony's franchises work better on television consoles than they do on handhelds

 

[Koren]

Namco actually said 2 million for Gundam Musou iirc (1m for Gundam + 1m for Musou = 2 million total). :lol

It wasn't Namco, but it's funny, since I don't remember any Gundam selling close to 1 million...

 

[cank stoochie]

it might not come anywhere near 1 million, but i still believe it will kickstart the ps3

 

[Magicpaint]

Namco never said that, though, that's the problem. This is Jarrod being Jarrod.

Namco's estimate was much more conservative than that.

Oh, so where did the 2 million estimate come from? What was Namco's own estimate?

 

[Jonnyram]

Sorry, it's not even Namco is it... it's Koei. But I remember them saying 1 million worldwide.

 

[DemonSwordsman]

Both DQMJ and FFIII have had legs for a while. Those MH sales are most likely a load blown right from the start. 2 million is not going to happen.

thats not likely since MHP1 is still on the charts

 

[ethelred]

Oh, so where did the 2 million estimate come from? What was Namco's own estimate?

The co-founder of Koei.

Sorry, it's not even Namco is it... it's Koei. But I remember them saying 1 million worldwide.

Right. Like I said, 1 million is much more conservative than 2 million.

 

[Eteric Rice]

Just a note, wasn't FFIII and DQM both supply contstrained on release? I'm assuming that if they weren't, they would have hit the same levels as MHP2.

 

[D.Lo]

It only goes to reaffirm that the PSP really is a phenomenal software success. It'll continue to have more third party million sellers than the DS at this rate

Is this sarcasm?

 

[Magicpaint]

The co-founder of Koei.

Ah, ok. I haven't been keeping in touch with Koei estimates, but... :lol

Right. Like I said, 1 million is much more conservative than 2 million.

Yeah, especially if the game sells like Wii Sports/Wii Play. Doubtful, though.

Just a note, wasn't FFIII and DQM both supply contstrained on release? I'm assuming that if they weren't, they would have hit the same levels as MHP2.

FFIII, yes, DQMJ, no.

 

[kitchenmotors]

Namco never said that, though, that's the problem. This is Jarrod being Jarrod.

Namco's estimate was much more conservative than that.



Bold prediction, given how MHP has stayed in the charts.

How much has the original sold to date? Usually when software is front loaded like this on launch week it does very little in the long term. Just looking at trends, but who knows. The japanese market is all over the place lately.

 

[ziran]

The last few pages have been, a good read.

If anyone cares, Famitsu predicts the savior (aka Gundam Musou) sell around 120k - 130k in its first week.
http://www.famitsu.com/blog/amazon/2007/02/post_13.html
It is based on Amazon pre-order number and comparison with VF5 first week sales.

There was a post at IGN which suggested Gundam Musou received 200k orders from retailers, and these estimated first week figures seem to tally. This is a very important title for PS3, it's going to be interesting to see what happens.

 

[WrathOfOtaibah]

I kind of want a PSP after this argument.

 

[Arsenal]

So sony has only like a 2.5-3:1 tie ratio on the psp?

Is sony making a loss on the psp?

No, Sony makes a profit on the PSP hardware sales. The fact that it is profitable as well as keeping the company in the portable media game are actually pretty significant for Sony. You could even say that this business model is similar to the one they are shooting for with the PS3... does Sony even care about marketshare any more if the market is big enough to support multiple platforms? As a company they have a lot bigger agenda than just gaming so that is going to lead them to some niche markets that may not necessarily appeal to the mass market.

The bottom line though is that realistically speaking, the PSP could very well be Sony's best selling gaming platform for the next 5 years. There is no way they are going to abandon it and while it is well behind the DS, its still selling pretty well worldwide.

 

[LanceStern]

How much has the original sold to date? Usually when software is front loaded like this on launch week it does very little in the long term. Just looking at trends, but who knows. The japanese market is all over the place lately.

NSMB First Week Sales: 899,000
NSMB LTD 9 months later: 4.1 million

But then again, DS is ALWAYS the exception. (b^.^)b Nintendo

 

[LanceStern]

It's a bit ridiculous to compare sales from the first couple quarters it was out to quarters in 2006. It wasn't a worldwide launch so of course software shipments are going to go up year over year as the system launches in more regions.

Well then it wouldn't be fair in general to say software is going down either.

 

[Error]

According to Tsutaya guy on Mainichi, MH2psp sold 700k first week:
http://www.mainichi-msn.co.jp/entertainment/game/gamenews/news/20070227org00m300050000c.html

I hope M.Create is a bit higher, so you can see how stunningly accurate my prediction skills are (maybe Namco will employ me, then - Gundam Musou will sell 1 million lol)

oh well DS had a good run.

 

[D.Lo]

Well then it wouldn't be fair in general to say software is going down either.

Shipments, remember.

 

[Eteric Rice]

oh well DS had a good run.

:lol

 

[LanceStern]

Shipments, remember.

Ah yes

 

[Oblivion]

they should rename this thread the nintendo fanboy orgy. sony and microsoft fanboys enter at your risk.
seriously anyone who dares suggests anything against nintendo is jumped upon with their lols and sarcasms:lol . come on now ninty fanboys, be nice.

You do have to wonder why Sony/MS fans are in media create threads. It's not like they have anything to talk about.


Also, LOL @ Sony production shipments.

 

[Oh My Gawd]

This thread needs a healthy dose of;

"What have you done for me lately."

PSP's current situation, is on the decline. Thats what is current people.

Wrong. PSP is up YoY in both US and Japan early 07 vs early 06', and just had it's biggest seller ever with MHP doing 700k in one week.

This doom and gloom crap has been around since Pokemon was supposed to kill opf the system in Japan. Guess what? Never happened. PSP is here to stay for a very long time, whether you like it or not.

 

[bud]

Seems the DS is done for

 

[Error]

Wrong. PSP is up YoY in both US and Japan early 07 vs early 06', and just had it's biggest seller ever with MHP doing 700k in one week.

This doom and gloom crap has been around since Pokemon was supposed to kill opf the system in Japan. Guess what? Never happened. PSP is here to stay for a very long time, whether you like it or not.

sup monorojo.

 

[cank stoochie]

You do have to wonder why Sony/MS fans are in media create threads. It's not like they have anything to talk about.


Also, LOL @ Sony production shipments.

well this week there is something to talk about, and next week.............

 

[mckmas8808]

Did that game for the PSP really do 700k in its first week?

 

[Eteric Rice]

Seems the DS is done for

Until NSMB2. :lol

 

[Meier]

thats not likely since MHP1 is still on the charts

I think MHP2 should have some solid legs and it's certainly done better than I could have expected (400-500k tops), but I imagine the vast majority of these buyers have bought MHP1 and enjoyed it, hence buying the sequel as soon as possible. If you look at the big Capcom PS2 titles such as Onimusha, their first week sales increased drastically while their total sales were very similar.

 

[jarrod]

Namco never said that, though, that's the problem. This is Jarrod being Jarrod.

Geez, it was an honest mistake. The Amir0x Jr. routine is cute though. :lol

 

[Neomoto]

Until NSMB2. :lol

Mario is just a fad.

 

[Joe Molotov]

Until Brain Training 3. :lol

Fixed.

 

[chibcicylist]

Mario is just a fad.

No, it's Pokeman.

 

[AdmiralViscen]

Wrong. PSP is up YoY in both US and Japan early 07 vs early 06', and just had it's biggest seller ever with MHP doing 700k in one week.

This doom and gloom crap has been around since Pokemon was supposed to kill opf the system in Japan. Guess what? Never happened. PSP is here to stay for a very long time, whether you like it or not.

Did you wind up explaining the publicly announced publisher bailouts after I went to bed last night?

 

[LanceStern]

Did you wind up explaining the publicly announced publisher bailouts after I went to bed last night?

It's already been explained by yours truly . Why would he need to restate it?

 

[ethelred]

Geez, it was an honest mistake. The Amir0x Jr. routine is cute though. :lol

I've been called worse.

 

[Jokeropia]

Wrong. PSP is up YoY in both US and Japan early 07 vs early 06'

Actually, PSP sales in the US in January are down compared to 2006 if you take into account the 5 week NPD and PSP sales in Japan early 2007 just recently caught up with early 2006.

 

[apujanata]

How much has the original sold to date? Usually when software is front loaded like this on launch week it does very little in the long term. Just looking at trends, but who knows. The japanese market is all over the place lately.

Monster Hunter Portable sales data (famitsu based) :
Release date : 1-Dec-05.
First week sales : 118,317
Latest sales data : 668,964, as of 31-Dec-06

MHP2 sales data (rumours and prediction based) :
Release date : 2-Feb-07.
First week sales : 700K
Lifetime sales :
- assuming same success (first week compared to LTD) as MHP : 4 Million (most probably impossible)
- assuming same success as SD Gundam G Generation Portable : 1.27 Million (should be achievable)

Note : assuming same success as MHP (PSP the best) : MHP2 will get sales of 8.7 Million unit. NeoGAF explode, Sony release a bragging PR featuring Ken Kutaragi.

Note to kitchenmotors : please refrain from commenting something when you don't have your facts right. You will just invite others to shred your opinion post.

 

[sharkie]

I've been called worse.

Do you realise what you just SAID.

 

[.dmc]

Note : assuming same success as MHP (PSP the best) : MHP2 will get sales of 8.7 Million unit. NeoGAF explode, Sony release a bragging PR featuring Ken Kutaragi.

Eh, isn't that like assuming that a DQ or FF is going to sell 16million because they have first week sales of 2million+?