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Media Create Sales 2/19 - 2/25
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[I]Excellent sales for the PSP and if you factor in cost, it outsold the DS when it didn't even have a shortage crisis like the times before. That's the first time in a while.[/I]This reasoning needs to be expounded to the overall market.
Excellent sales for the PS3 and if you factor in cost, it outsold the Wii when it didn't even have a shortage crisis like the times before. That's the first time in a while.
which leads to,
Excellent sales for the 360 and if you factor in Japanese apathy, it outsold the PS3 when it didn't even have a shortage crisis like the times before. That's the first time in a while.
Yep, all this time we have been reading the Japanese market upside down.
TheGreatDave
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Tharkûn said:
The Fire Emblem and Naruto sales aren't bad when you look at the current install base though. The kind of people who only want Wii Play and Music were never going to buy your more conventional games anyway, so what the average Wii owner buys doesn't matter so much as much as do third party games make a profit.
Mithos Yggdrasill
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Tabris said:
100% Joke Poster. I'm curious to see how many will be banned thanks to Tabris.
DeaconKnowledge
Member
AshStrife said:
This wins.
Pureauthor
Member
AshStrife said:
So, wait, you mean Japan is actually the best market for games?
[/Amir0x vision]
Mr. Pointy
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I think we've lost him, Doctor.Tabris said:
And now something completely different: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_drrgyeA5UTabris said:
Nice bump for Wii, but I'm sure they could have sold 90K last week if N had shipped it. Still nice to see confirmation that Japan is still buying every single unit available.
Next week will be interesting. Since I'm new at this, how much of a bump can PS3 reasonably expect to get?
Next week will be interesting. Since I'm new at this, how much of a bump can PS3 reasonably expect to get?
DeaconKnowledge
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So what else come out next week for the PS3 besides Gundam Musou?
TheGreatDave
Banned
I don't see PS3 getting much of a boost. 32k I'll say. There's a difference between a game that sells systems and sells well.
PS3 dated releases from Play-Asia:
Mar 8 Power Smash 3 / Virtua Tennis 3
Mar 15 Fight Night Round 3
Mar 15 Madden NFL 07
Mar 22 Love Adventure Love x 2 Kiss
Mar 22 Mist of Chaos
Mar 29 Winning Post 7 Maximum 2007
Mar 31 Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War
Apr 1 Pro Yakyuu Spirits 4
There must be some bigger titles around Golden Week, but they're not listed yet.
AFAIK DS retail is ~17,000 yen and PSP retail is ~20,000 yen, so using the approximate Famitsu numbers (DS 134k, PSP 95k):
DS revenue ~2.28 billion yen > PSP revenue ~1.9 billion yen.
Mar 8 Power Smash 3 / Virtua Tennis 3
Mar 15 Fight Night Round 3
Mar 15 Madden NFL 07
Mar 22 Love Adventure Love x 2 Kiss
Mar 22 Mist of Chaos
Mar 29 Winning Post 7 Maximum 2007
Mar 31 Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War
Apr 1 Pro Yakyuu Spirits 4
There must be some bigger titles around Golden Week, but they're not listed yet.
Are you trying to say PSP revenue > DS revenue?Tabris said:
AFAIK DS retail is ~17,000 yen and PSP retail is ~20,000 yen, so using the approximate Famitsu numbers (DS 134k, PSP 95k):
DS revenue ~2.28 billion yen > PSP revenue ~1.9 billion yen.
moku said:
Amazing stuff, the Wii is doing exactly the opposite of what nearly everyone thought it would do in Japan, after 2 generations totally bombing in Japan.
Also, if the Famitsu number are accurate then the Wii is now 1 million units ahead of PS3 in Japan LTD also, if this trend continues - and I see no reason in 2007 why it shouldn't - then the Wii could pull as much as 2 million units further away by years end, scary. (Based on 38 weeks left, Wii average 80,000, PS3 average 25000).
Sho_Nuff82
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Wait for Bladestorm.
Segata Sanshiro
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Stop It said:
I think on the heels of the DS, the Wii's Japanese success is a lot less surprising. More surprising is the PS3's uh...stumbling.
Kurosaki Ichigo
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I think MHP2 is going to outsell both new mecha titles (SRT W and Gundam Musou). Dunno why...I'm probably just saying this because I saw amazon just a moment ago and was surprised to see MHP2 still #1 so just in case...
Anyway, Gundam prediction (for the week, not first day)...umm...120k for the game and bundle, PS3 45k.
Now seriously, whats in the oven that can make it before Golden Week? Minna no Golf 5 isn't and 3rd party wise...I wouldn't count on Tecmo's Ninja Gaiden Sigma to save the day.
Anyway, Gundam prediction (for the week, not first day)...umm...120k for the game and bundle, PS3 45k.
Its PS3...I wouldn't count on it :lolziran said:
Now seriously, whats in the oven that can make it before Golden Week? Minna no Golf 5 isn't and 3rd party wise...I wouldn't count on Tecmo's Ninja Gaiden Sigma to save the day.
Stop It said:
Your numbers seem way off. Once production goes up, the Wii number will be more like 100,000 and the PS3 number will average at 25,000 (like you say) if you include launches methinks.
And as November is like 2 months in terms of sales, and December is like 4 months, and only (less than) 9 weeks have passed this year in sales figures so far, leaving 60 weeks of sales left, 50 of which will be 100,000 for Wii (only if the Wii momentum continues of course).
For next 10 weeks, 550,000 gap widening. For remaining (equivilent of) 50 weeks left, another 3,750,000. Together, that's 4,300,000 (not 2,000,000) extra gap widening, leaving Wii at 5,300,000 more than PS3 by the end of this year if the current trend continues, and there isn't some magical occurance that prevents it from continuing being a DS in disguise.
Of course, this is all very optimisitc (or pessimistic, depending on your stance), but if Wii continues to kick ass, and PS3 continues to be... 5 billion Yen, then PS3 will sell less than PSP and Wii is on route to sell more than DS. Insane.
http://ameblo.jp/get6-2/entry-10026887122.html
Both Gundam Musou and Super Robot War W are selling very well.
Gundam Musou nearly sold all 150k first shipment, next shipment is on next week.
Super Robot War W should sold all 250k shipment during weekend, next shipment is the end of March :/
Edit: Also, MHP2, SimCity DS and Layton are still selling. The latter 2 are in shortage. Layton will restock in weekend and SimCity needs to wait 2 weeks....
Both Gundam Musou and Super Robot War W are selling very well.
Gundam Musou nearly sold all 150k first shipment, next shipment is on next week.
Super Robot War W should sold all 250k shipment during weekend, next shipment is the end of March :/
Edit: Also, MHP2, SimCity DS and Layton are still selling. The latter 2 are in shortage. Layton will restock in weekend and SimCity needs to wait 2 weeks....
milanbaros
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When can we expect mc numbers?
NintendosBooger
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ethelred said:
So what? Their only job is to keep the masses warmed up for the next first-party release.
Magicpaint
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ethelred said:
QFT. I've been saying this for a long time now and I really don't know what the hell is going on with Nintendo.
Pureauthor
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enishi said:
Oh... it's entire shipment is 150K? So much for a big boost...
Dude, what.
What the heck is going on in the cart production facilities?
Oh, goody. More cart shortages.
(Although, I suppose if units can keep selling if/when restocks arrive, it's a moot point in the long run. 1 month in between restocks is just ridiculous, though.)
Pureauthor
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Isn't the 1-post per minute feature supposed to deactivate double posts? :/
Dragona Akehi
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ethelred said:
Indeed.
I think it's apparent now that DS software sells BOATLOADS, and Nintendo really needs to buy/outsource more card production, if not Lites themselves too.
Of course, jonnyram also mentioned how it's partially the retailers' fault: they aren't ordering enough cards from Nintendo! Apparently preorders haven't risen with demand: people are simply picking them up "on whim"...
Dragona Akehi said:
I don't buy the retailer excuse. At all.
It should not ever take a month to get a game that outsells its entire shipment restocked. And we've seen this now with too many games (DQMJ, Sekaiju, SRW, Layton, Sim City, and on and on and on) from too many companies, and some of them (like Square Enix) I don't think would ever be this reckless with surefire sellers like DQMJ.
Nintendo is at fault. Nintendo's controlling the cart production; they need to do something so that these companies can actually get enough freaking games on the stores to sell. It's ridiculous.
And then we look at FFXII: Revenant Wings, which shouldn't be going to market with anything less than a million freaking carts on Day 1, and it has half that. This is just unbelievable.
There's only so much production available, and it's just as likely that the publishers are to blame for short shipping DS games because they're not ordering enough to start with.
I really don't understand why there's this overwhelming belief on GAF that producing more silicon chips is easy to do like flipping a switch to add 200,000 more to the queue. It's just not like that, and when combined with the publishers looking at the market and probably undershipping a little bit simply to avoid getting stuck with product, seeing things go out of stock isn't all that surprising.
I really don't understand why there's this overwhelming belief on GAF that producing more silicon chips is easy to do like flipping a switch to add 200,000 more to the queue. It's just not like that, and when combined with the publishers looking at the market and probably undershipping a little bit simply to avoid getting stuck with product, seeing things go out of stock isn't all that surprising.
Eteric Rice
Member
Nintendo is making so much money, they should open an extra factory or two.
Third parties seem fine on the DS. Fire Emblem did okay considering the user base, Naruto, I don't know. The game is supposedly shitty, so *shurugs.*
Hopefully Nintendo and Square-Enix announce some new stuff soon.
Third parties seem fine on the DS. Fire Emblem did okay considering the user base, Naruto, I don't know. The game is supposedly shitty, so *shurugs.*
Hopefully Nintendo and Square-Enix announce some new stuff soon.
Dave Long said:
Are publishers being cautious? Sure, I can maybe buy that to an extent. I don't think 500k copies of Revenant Wings is "caution," though, as I don't think there's a chance in hell Square Enix would willingly go to market with so few carts of their next huge game right in the middle of Golden Week.
So maybe there's some caution in that initial orders are smaller than they might be, but it is unacceptable that it would take two weeks to a month to replenish supply on a game. That's what is happening here. And that has nothing to do with a slight reticence when it comes to first day shipments.
NeonZ
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W.T.H.?! J barely sold 200k through its life time, and this game is basically a J sequel (not in storyline, I'm talking about gameplay and featured series)... But has beaten J in day one?!
Argh... this makes me fear they'll really go on and really replace UC with SEED... Bah. I only hope they'll include Gundam X in some future SRW...
Pureauthor
Member
Dave Long said:
Not when these games are essentially guaranteed to be sell out on day one. There is no way that FFXIIRW won't sell 500K on it's first day. Not to mention 1 month for restocking is completely ridiculous.
edwardslane
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capcom's biggest sellers this generation have been on 360 and psp... where is the nintendo love capcom!
Parl said:
My numbers were off the top of my head, and were on the cautious end of the scale, I should have said that however, sorry.
2007 shall be the year of the Wii, and in my view will entrench it as the lead player in the 7th generation wars, even overtaking the 360 worldwide, whether it can turn that into another DS style success is up to them, and 3rd party support (Which I think will come).