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Media Create Sales 2/19 - 2/25
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Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
cvxfreak said:
Agree. Monster Hunter Portable 2 is the best first week ever for a Third party on an handheld machine and it is the proof that the PSP's community is eager of new, great games.
The shame comes overall from Sony, who has not supported enough his machine, where they could make it a more successfull one. Perhaps the problem is that they have concentrated themself on PS3 too much and they hoped that Third Parties, like with the PS1/2, would have supportes enough the console.
What next ? Nothing ! And that's the big problem. The DS, as always, has a incredible number of hit to come and the PSP has really nothing until Ratchet & Clank (21.03.07), that will not sustain the machine in any way.
MHP2 is really the Ocarina of Time for the PSP and sure, it has boosted the hardware a lot, but this effect will not last forever, and, with the lack of big games coming in the short-middle term, the PSP will slow down inevitable.
I repeat: the big difference with the N64 and the GC is that the PSP has ridicoulous First party sales and this is one of the motivations that justify the relative low success of the PSP. An occasion lost for Sony, that's sure !
Mr. Pointy
Member
I think MHP2 has the potential to sell like BT2, Animal Crossing or NSMB, in that it has a big launch, a slow trickle out of the top 10 and then sell 10-20k for a while. It could have legs like MHP1.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
I wonder what Monster Hunter numbers would be like for the DS..
Mr. Pointy said:
Capcom's leg is different from Nintendo. All of their popular franchises have crazy leg for the first game ,so the sequel sale blow out at the start then suddently drop off the chart in couple months.
Biohazard -> Biohazard 2
Street Fighter -> Street Fighter 2
Rockman -> Rockman 2
MHP -> MHP2 (wait to see)
DMC, Onimusha and Dino Crisis are excluded
Mithos Yggdrasill said:
Yes, they have concentrated much, much more on the PS3. But that's not necessarily 'too much'. PSP has had decent hardware sales, just not anything on the insane level of DS. And you could say the DS is a slightly different market. PS3 on the other hand, has fierce, direct, competition from MS. And PS is the brand which has got them where they are today, so of course they're going to put the vast majority of their resources in to their home console.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Mr. Pointy said:
Uhmm....
I don't think really that MHP2 will have legs, because the past and the experience tell us exactly this.
In other words, no other PSP game has had legs that cn be compared with the millions sellers on the Nintendo DS; yeah, even Monster Hunter Portable 1; so, I don't see why it should happen now.
Next, we have had a big boost on the hardware's side, but 605k (that's right) were already in possession of a PSP. So, who was looking for MHP2, has already bought it. The rest (1/7) is new audience.
What I mean ? The fact is that games like Brain Training has sold (and are still selling) with the hardware. That's why their first week was slow, and that's why their legs were just incredible.
Ok. This is not always true, but it is a possibility. For example, New Super mario bros. has started very strong and has continued like a fool, but, after all, we are speaking of Mario !
So, I don't say that MHP2 will not have legs. I say that it will not have legs that can be compared to NSMB or Animal Crossing.
This week (that we'll see next week) will be very important to see the trend.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
ITA84 said:
Yeah, but there is another problem. MHP2 cannot absolutely reach 3-4 millions with an usebase in Japan of 4.8 millions. The game has already an attach-rate of 15% and I pose the limit on 30% (that is a lot !).
Then, PSP's hardware's stock are high, and if it sold 100k, it is clear that it is a lot, but it is the 15% of totals purchases (yeah, exactly the same !) and then, the rest sold to who has already a PSP (or, better the first Monster Hunter).
So, next week, I think that the game will approach likely 950k-1 million. And in the long term, it will reach 1.5 millions (similar to Ocarina of Time in this way too !).
AlternativeUlster
Absolutely pathetic part deux
Isn't there only like a 1,000,000 PsPs sold in Japan or something like that? I guess it can have legs to push to the other 300,000 users but I think by then people would have figured out how to play back-up version of the game.
Magicpaint
Member
Wow, ToD2 really dropped off, looks like I was right Ichigo, MHP2 seems to have taken attention away from ToD2
Still excellent MHP2 sales and it cannot be stated enough. I'm glad to see Fire Emblem and Sim City start well and I'm really happy Layton is hanging in there. Same for Hotel Dusk, surely that must have passed 100K by now. Good week.
Still excellent MHP2 sales and it cannot be stated enough. I'm glad to see Fire Emblem and Sim City start well and I'm really happy Layton is hanging in there. Same for Hotel Dusk, surely that must have passed 100K by now. Good week.
Tabris said:
I'm waiting for HW too, so you can return to your regular broadcast of "This is the last time I post in a MC thread since those are only Nintendo fanboys circle-jerks anyway, btw don't paint me as a PSP fanboy since I own a DS too." + jpg of somebody else's DS collection.
Oh, and the bitter tears. Don't forget them.
More approximate numbers (Famitsu):
http://blog.livedoor.jp/neoplay/archives/50921527.html
DS - 134,000
PSP - 95,000
Wii - 90,000
PS3 - 22,000
PS2 - 16,000
360 - 4,000
PSP
Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 750,000
Metal Slug Complete - 7,600
DS
Sim City DS - 50,000
Keroro Gunsou Enshuu da yo! Zen-in Shuugou Part 2 - 14,000
Wii
Fire Emblem: Godess of Dawn - 74,000
Naruto: Shippuuden Gekitou Ninja Taisen! EX - 35,000
PS2
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni - 80,000
Fatal Fury Battle Archives 2 - 7,000
360
Crackdown - 15,000
Splinter Cell: Double Agent - 4,000
PS3
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom - 6,600
DC
Trigger Heart Exelica - 13,000
http://blog.livedoor.jp/neoplay/archives/50921527.html
DS - 134,000
PSP - 95,000
Wii - 90,000
PS3 - 22,000
PS2 - 16,000
360 - 4,000
PSP
Monster Hunter Portable 2nd - 750,000
Metal Slug Complete - 7,600
DS
Sim City DS - 50,000
Keroro Gunsou Enshuu da yo! Zen-in Shuugou Part 2 - 14,000
Wii
Fire Emblem: Godess of Dawn - 74,000
Naruto: Shippuuden Gekitou Ninja Taisen! EX - 35,000
PS2
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni - 80,000
Fatal Fury Battle Archives 2 - 7,000
360
Crackdown - 15,000
Splinter Cell: Double Agent - 4,000
PS3
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom - 6,600
DC
Trigger Heart Exelica - 13,000
Smiles and Cries
Member
ziran said:
Wow!
Wii had a little spike there, damn PS3
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Smiles and Cries said:
Hey!
It had a little spike too! Be nice.
milanbaros
Member?
If the Wii outsells the Ps3 by more than a 3 to 1 ratio again this week I truely believe Sony has lost all chance of having a bigger market share than the Wii.
This industry can't sustain a weak console for long whilst it waits for the 'big guns' to come out. Especially if its a year. By then the puplishers will have jumped ship already. Well done Nintendo.
There is a strong possibility that no company will end with more than a 40% ww unit market share which would be incredible.
This industry can't sustain a weak console for long whilst it waits for the 'big guns' to come out. Especially if its a year. By then the puplishers will have jumped ship already. Well done Nintendo.
There is a strong possibility that no company will end with more than a 40% ww unit market share which would be incredible.
slaughterking
Member
Wow, the Wii numbers are quite amazing.
I have to brag with my predictions which were a bit off but kinda close...
DS, once again you fail me.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=5676570&postcount=897Taurus said:
DS, once again you fail me.
TheGreatDave
Banned
Those are some really strong Wii numbers. If it can get a boost like that with Fire Emblem and Naruto, neither of which are huge, imagine what something like BBA or any other so-popular-they-re-not-games games can do.
It will definitely go back down unless Monster Hunter is able to push more units than it has already. I doubt Ratchet and Clank will push any units and it's the only notable release for PSP in March. All the FF ports/remakes might push some units but they won't start to be release until the middle of April.ksamedi said:
Smiles and Cries
Member
DeaconKnowledge said:
it did? it was not at 19k last week was it?
I'm sure Sony would love to see PS3 trade sales with PSP
PS3 beating the Wii at this point would send a strong message that they are still alive, but I think people need to take a look at the PSP after a year long steady lower sales it got a boost from software so PS3 is still in the war because great software can help it.
This war is going to be great
DeaconKnowledge
Member
milanbaros said:
I don't know about that.
Watching the US and Europe software charts leads me to believe there will be a very clear market leader this gen.
I think what we'll see for the WW market is a complete turn around for market leader; with the number 3 company last gen decidedly taking first, and vice versa.
TheGreatDave
Banned
Realisticly, can PS3 ever consistantly outsell Wii at it's current price in Japan? I don't see what kind of circumstance can happen for that to take place, outside of a possible one week jump for MGS4 or something.
Magicpaint
Member
TheGreatDave said:
FFXIII
Pureauthor
Member
Hey, guys.
ziran said:More approximate numbers (Famitsu):
http://blog.livedoor.jp/neoplay/archives/50921527.html
DS - 134,000
PSP - 95,000
Wii - 90,000
PS3 - 22,000
PS2 - 16,000
360 - 4,000
TheGreatDave
Banned
Magicpaint said:
Stick that in "or something". I mean more than just one week sales jump. I don't doubt the PS3's potential quality, but the price makes it a continual hard sell. Hopefully by the time of FFXIII and MGS4 it'll have a price cut.
60_gig_PS3
Banned
milanbaros said:
Wii got 2 killer aps this week. Next week is PS3's turn.
Smiles and Cries
Member
milanbaros said:
I don't think Next Week matters that much, its still too early and the Wii needs to do much better about 100k-200k per week like the DS to keep PS3 from a comeback. I think PS3 still has a #1 Brand name in its favor in Japan. They just need that killer software.
TheGreatDave said:
I dont think even jumps can help it reach Wii numbers. If things go like it is, and Nintendo releases some more inovative casual games than the Wii will do DS like numbers before we even see MGS4. If that happens, the PS3 has no chance of reaching the Wii, even with spikes. Example, look at PSP and look at DS. The highest selling PSP week since launch and even then it cant reach the suply constrained DS.
Its been decided i think, Japan loves Nintendo.