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[Fuzzy]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2512338&postcount=170

It's not fair, he went crazy a while back.

Good gravy. There was a null line in the HTML file. The read file loop terminates on a null. !()*$^!@)#(&*@!^#)@!

They're onto you!

 

[My Chemical Mouse]

Wii 51,365
PSP 39,077

All time low for Wii right?

PSP staying very steady, and yet again ahead of this week last year (albeit by only 4k). Gundam next week should help it a bit

Lots of crying over my statement. Sorry but it's just an obvious observation.

 

[Mar]

So Wii passes 2 million next week. And PS3 is yet to pass 1 million and won't do so for quite some time.

Madness.

 

[schuelma]

All time low for Wii right?

PSP staying very steady, and yet again ahead of this week last year (albeit by only 4k). Gundam next week should help it a bit

Lots of crying over my statement. Sorry but it's just an obvious observation.

Nope, Wii had its all time low a few weeks ago when it dipped under 50K.

And please don't argue that this number represents a trend when evidence conclusively shows its a matter of supply (pleeeeeeeeease argue this..i need something to do.pleaseeeeeeeee).

 

[Ash Sparrow]

PS3 16,889

 

[Insane Metal]

JFC. 16k for the PS3, wow

 

[nubbe]

The DS sure took a dive... lowest sales to date?

 

[Grecco]

So Wii passes 2 million next week. And PS3 is yet to pass 1 million and won't do so for quite some time.

Madness.

Madness?

 

[Link]

All time low for Wii right?

PSP staying very steady, and yet again ahead of this week last year (albeit by only 4k). Gundam next week should help it a bit

Lots of crying over my statement. Sorry but it's just an obvious observation.

That's it, I'm breaking it out.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

So, even if you combine every single Playstation product sold... that number STILL doesn't exceed the DSLite on one of it's lower weeks?

Wow, just wow.

Not this week, but it looks like it's happened twice this year.

The DS sure took a dive... lowest sales to date?

Ahaha, no, DS has had dozens of weeks lower, though mostly in its first year. The last time DS+DSL was lower than this week, though, was... 75,207 the week of August 14, 2006. I believe that was a week they held back, because the next two weeks were 164K and 229K (FFIII release).

 

[Great Rumbler]

It's a Blu-Ray player that also plays games. It is uniquely positioned to withstand a large lack of games. Obviously, that won't endear it to non-HDTV owners, but it would still survive as a primary Blu-Ray player until the price could come down. Also, a little re-branding goes a long way (see: DS Lite).

Looks like the spin is already in full-force.

 

[Evlar]

Not this week, but it looks like it's happened twice this year.


Ahaha, no, DS has had dozens of weeks lower, though mostly in its first year. The last time DS+DSL was lower than this week, though, was... 75,207 the week of August 14, 2006. I believe that was a week they held back, because the next two weeks were 164K and 229K (FFIII release).

Do you think we might get three more weeks of this?

 

[mj1108]

All time low for Wii right?

PSP staying very steady, and yet again ahead of this week last year (albeit by only 4k). Gundam next week should help it a bit

Lots of crying over my statement. Sorry but it's just an obvious observation.

No crying over your observation.

Just everyone laughing at how stupid you are.

 

[schuelma]

Looks like the spin is already in full-force.

And hasn't Sony already announced a cheaper blue ray player for this year?

 

[Jonnyram]

At this point in time, it's highly likely they are holding back units for FFXII:Revenant Wings.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

All time low for Wii right?

PSP staying very steady, and yet again ahead of this week last year (albeit by only 4k). Gundam next week should help it a bit

Lots of crying over my statement. Sorry but it's just an obvious observation.

Oh good, moku will be happy.

 

[cvxfreak]

At this point in time, it's highly likely they are holding back units for FFXII:Revenant Wings.

Or Phoenix Wright 4! [/wishful thinking]

 

[Brak]

Looks like the spin is already in full-force.

Donny's not a spinner, he's just throwing out some hypotheticals. We gotta talk about something, right?

EDIT: Mar_ that GIF is killer :lol

 

[Scum]

At this point in time, it's highly likely they are holding back units for FFXII:Revenant Wings.

More than likely. Is FFXII:Revenant Wings out during Golden Week?

 

[jko]

:lol :lol :lol :lol

 

[Great Rumbler]

Donny's not a spinner, he's just throwing out some hypotheticals. We gotta talk about something, right?

I guess. :/

 

[Evlar]

Donny's not a spinner, he's just throwing out some hypotheticals. We gotta talk about something, right?

EDIT: Mar_ that GIF is killer :lol

I think the hypothetical is very unlikely because, assuming Blu-Ray becomes the standard HD format, there will be MUCH cheaper players on the market by 2012.

 

[Jonnyram]

More than likely. Is FFXII:Revenant Wings out during Golden Week?

Just before it (26 April)... it's gonna sell A LOT.

 

[Brak]

I think the hypothetical is very unlikely because, assuming Blu-Ray becomes the standard HD format, there will be MUCH cheaper players on the market by 2012.

I'm not saying that he's right, I just don't like seeing people be called out if I know they're quality posters.

 

[Dupy]

You don't see Sony fans holding Japan over 360 in these threads though. Odd eh?

Really?

So...does 360 have anything that can even remotely help it get atleast to the original Xbox LTD by the end of it's lifetime in Japan?

3k a week.....why even release the next Xbox in Japan? You've tried twice, you've given most of what the Japanese have asked for, yet still failure.

 

[Scum]

Just before it (26 April)... it's gonna sell A LOT.

Unbelievable! :lol
How disgustingly convenient! I fear for Japan when FFXII: Revenant Wings shows up! :lol

 

[KINGMOKU]

Oh good, moku will be happy.

I'm ****ing ecstatic.

My prediction of the next FF showing up on the Wii in some shape or form, is getting more, and more likely.

Delving into the spinsters here isnt even worthy of my time.(I just watched Kung-fu hustle)

Nintendo's Buddhist Palm Technique will do all the work for me.


There is no way to spin these numbers. You can try, and there are those who will indeed try, but the fact remains that the PLAYSTATION THREE, the successor to the most popular line of videogame consoles ever, just sold under 17k for a week, in it's homeland.

This people, this is the beginning of the end.

This is the future. Embrace it.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Do you think we might get three more weeks of this?

I haven't much been in the business of trying to predict Nintendo's shipments, but that would be something unprecedented for DSL. I already pointed out the last week that was lower than this week, but since DSL's launch they've all been very brief dips. In fact, looking at the three times in the last year that DS+DSL has gone below 100K, there seems to be a pattern: Small week, Average week, Huge week.

2006-05-08: 95K
2006-05-17: 177K
2006-05-22: 289K

2006-08-14: 75K
2006-08-21: 164K
2006-08-28: 229K

2007-01-08: 89K
2007-01-15: 128K
2007-01-22: 195K

 

[Insane Metal]

5. PS3 - 16,889

 

[Surreal]

As long as Team ICO doesn't bail out on the PS3, I'll be okay. Who needs third party anyways! *cries*

 

[Link]

Really?

Remember when we had trolls that at least tried to be subtle?

 

[Xristot]

5. PS3 - 16,889

that has to be the best gif ever! EVER!

:lol :lol

 

[Insane Metal]

that has to be the best gif ever! EVER!

:lol :lol

Yeah I love it too :lol

But I´m not the maker, though. I just saved it here... got it here @ NG...

 

[_Alkaline_]

I miss Panther's detailed analysis.

 

[Evlar]

I miss Panther's detailed analysis.

Cheese posted it last week.

 

[mugwhump]

Really?

Ha ha.

 

[Cheesemeister]

This Week Sales:

Since 11/27/07:
18 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
12 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.

360 - Following the trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 9,428. Post Holiday Avg = 5,065.
Wii - Slightly below the trend: 55-72k. Next Gen Avg = 108,984. Post Holiday Avg = 70,562.
PS3 - Below the trend: 19-25k. Next Gen Avg = 45,077. Post Holiday Avg = 23,657.

Results, Analysis, & Expectations
● The 360's sales are insignificant. They will not hit 1 million units before its successor is announced. A week on week perspective (upper graph) actually shows a CONTINUED slide to oblivion. 2k-5k per week for the foreseeable future.

● PS3. Oh god. Seriously. Not good. Not good at all. 20k per week is one thing...15k is quite another. Nothing short of an immediate and severe price drop in combination with an immediate release of FFXIII could change this at this point. This is bad. 15-23k for the next 6 weeks, with a possible +5-10k bump for the holidays.

● Down-swing week for the Wii. The Wii is clearly dependent upon hardware shipments, and it appears that units are being held back for a possible holiday-week blitz. 60-80k for the next several weeks, with a possible +20-40k bump for the holidays. 100k week would not be out of the question.


Expectations for 04/02-04/08
360 - 3k*
Wii - 66k << overestimated last week by 15k.
PS3 - 19k*

* = within 5k estimation success the previous week!

This Week's Market Share:

Market Share Week-to-Week

Date____               360             Wii             PS3
11/27-12/03:            25%             49%             26%
12/04-12/10:            24%             49%             27%
12/11-12/17:            21%             50%             29%
12/18-12/24:            17%             57%             26%
12/25-12/31:            16%             56%             28%
01/01-01/07:            15%             58%             27%
01/08-01/14:            14%             59%             27%
01/15-01/21:            14%             60%             26%
01/22-01/28:            13%             60%             26%
01/29-02/04:            13%             61%             26%
02/05-02/11:            13%             61%             26%
02/12-02/18:            13%             62%             26%
02/19-02/25:            12%             62%             25%
03/26-03/04:            12%             62%             26%
03/05-03/11:            12%             62%             26%
03/12-03/18:            11%             62%             26%
03/19-03/25:            11%             63%             26%
03/26-04/01:            11%             63%             26%

Significant Notes:
&#9679; The Wii has had a 1 million unit lead on the PS3 for 5 weeks. (currently 1,150,337 lead)
&#9679; The Wii just had its second worst week ever at 51k units (worst =44k).
&#9679; The PS3 just had its worst week ever at 16k units (previous worst 18.7k).
&#9679; The Wii is averaging 70k units in the 12 week post-holiday period.
&#9679; The PS3 is averaging 24k units in the 12 week post-holiday period.
&#9679; The Wii sold 3.04x the PS3 this week, and has 2.42x LTD.
&#9679; The Wii will break 2 million in Japan in less than a week.
&#9679; The PS3 is at least two months from breaking 1 million. Possibly 3.

If sales repeated this week's results indefinitely, barring all other factors:
&#9679; The Wii will have a 1.5 million unit lead by the middle of June.
&#9679; The Wii will have a 2 million unit the end of September. Seriously.
&#9679; The Wii will have a 3 million unit lead by April 2008.


And this was the slowest console week in Japan this year. (72k units total)

 

[My Chemical Mouse]

Really?

What in the world? How is that holding PS3 over 360? I never mentioned Ps3 once. I asked a valid question.

 

[Evlar]

I am prophetic!

 

[Great Rumbler]

I'm not saying that he's right, I just don't like seeing people be called out if I know they're quality posters.

Come on, now. That's grade-A spin if I've ever seen it.

"PS3 sales are completely terrible in Japan, but that's okay because it's a Bluray player as well and it'll last 2-3 years until the price is lower and then it'll be rebranded for GREAT SUCCESS! Just like the DS!"

And the last part is really absurd. The DS wasn't miraculously saved by the Lite. The Lite was simply the extra boost it needed to propel it into the upper atmosphere. Remember Christmas '05? That was DS Phat.

 

[My Chemical Mouse]

The DS wasn't miraculously saved by the Lite.

In the US it was.

 

[KINGMOKU]

In the US it was.

No, the DS exploded becuase of a combination of events.

 

[Vinnk]

I'll have Vinnk guide me to the good stuff. Amirite, Vinnk? ;-)

You are correct.

As for the low DS Lite numbers. Isn't FFXII: RW being released as DS+Game special package? They need to get those DS lites from somewhere.

 

[Xristot]

Yeah I love it too :lol

But I´m not the maker, though. I just saved it here... got it here @ NG...

BTW, this is a bit off topic, but i swear that thing on the side of the bowl looks like a used condom. :lol

 

[Great Rumbler]

In the US it was.

It was selling about even with the PSP, maybe a bit above. How is that a miraculous save?

 

[Evlar]

You are correct.

As for the low DS Lite numbers. Isn't FFXII: RW being released as DS+Game special package? They need to get those DS lites from somewhere.

Oh crap you reminded me. I need to see if I can get one from P-A...

 

[polg]

so... it is "real" easter right now.

When is "japanese" easter happening? is nintendo launching anything special for the wii/ds?

 

[Insane Metal]

This Week Sales:

Since 11/27/07:
18 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
12 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.

360 - Following the trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 9,428. Post Holiday Avg = 5,065.
Wii - Slightly below the trend: 55-72k. Next Gen Avg = 108,984. Post Holiday Avg = 70,562.
PS3 - Below the trend: 19-25k. Next Gen Avg = 45,077. Post Holiday Avg = 23,657.

Results, Analysis, & Expectations
&#9679; The 360's sales are insignificant. They will not hit 1 million units before its successor is announced. A week on week perspective (upper graph) actually shows a CONTINUED slide to oblivion. 2k-5k per week for the foreseeable future.

&#9679; PS3. Oh god. Seriously. Not good. Not good at all. 20k per week is one thing...15k is quite another. Nothing short of a price an immediate and severe price drop in combination with an immediate release of FFXIII could change this at this point. This is bad. 15-23k for the next 6 weeks, with a possible +5-10k bump for the holidays.

&#9679; Down-swing week for the Wii. The Wii is clearly dependent upon hardware shipments, and it appears that units are being held back for a possible holiday-week blitz. 60-80k for the next several weeks, with a possible +20-40k bump for the holidays. 100k week would not be out of the question.


Expectations for 04/02-04/08
360 - 3k*
Wii - 66k << overestimated last week by 15k.
PS3 - 19k*

* = within 5k estimation success the previous week!

This Week's Market Share:

Market Share Week-to-Week

Date____               360             Wii             PS3
11/27-12/03:            25%             49%             26%
12/04-12/10:            24%             49%             27%
12/11-12/17:            21%             50%             29%
12/18-12/24:            17%             57%             26%
12/25-12/31:            16%             56%             28%
01/01-01/07:            15%             58%             27%
01/08-01/14:            14%             59%             27%
01/15-01/21:            14%             60%             26%
01/22-01/28:            13%             60%             26%
01/29-02/04:            13%             61%             26%
02/05-02/11:            13%             61%             26%
02/12-02/18:            13%             62%             26%
02/19-02/25:            12%             62%             25%
03/26-03/04:            12%             62%             26%
03/05-03/11:            12%             62%             26%
03/12-03/18:            11%             62%             26%
03/19-03/25:            11%             63%             26%
03/26-04/01:            11%             63%             26%

Significant Notes:
&#9679; The Wii has had a 1 million unit lead on the PS3 for 5 weeks. (currently 1,150,337 lead)
&#9679; The Wii just had its second worst week ever at 51k units (worst =44k).
&#9679; The PS3 just had its worst week ever at 16k units (previous worst 18.7k).
&#9679; The Wii is averaging 70k units in the 12 week post-holiday period.
&#9679; The PS3 is averaging 24k units in the 12 week post-holiday period.
&#9679; The Wii sold 3.04x the PS3 this week, and has 2.42x LTD.
&#9679; The Wii will break 2 million in Japan in less than a weeks.
&#9679; The PS3 is at least two months from breaking 1 million. Possibly 3.

If sales repeated this week's results indefinitely, barring all other factors:
&#9679; The Wii will have a 1.5 million unit lead by the middle of June.
&#9679; The Wii will have a 2 million unit the end of September. Seriously.
&#9679; The Wii will have a 3 million unit lead by April 2008.


And this was the slowest console week in Japan this year. (72k units total)

Excelent post, thank you so much cheese

 

[Eteric Rice]

I wonder where the DS went after it's ascent into heaven?

*EDIT*

Oh wait, I found it!

 

[Cheesemeister]

Excelent post, thank you so much cheese

Don't thank me.