super funk
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seattle6418 said:
Im pretty sure this was the same thing people were saying about the PSP and the DS back when they were somewhat close.
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Im pretty sure this was the same thing people were saying about the PSP and the DS back when they were somewhat close.
The thing is, they are completely different, but they do target the same audience (hardcore gamers). It's just that Nintendo also targets a bigger audience. But both systems are 7th generation gaming consoles, which makes them direct competitors. And 3rd-party developers will, in general, go where the money is (read: installed base). If they dedicate ressources to Wii-development, the PS3 gets less games...seattle6418 said:
Pureauthor
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Segata Sanshiro said:You're too late!
I'm willing to vouch you don't have much idea what I'm talking about anyway.
apujanata said:
I can only tell you about its availability in my town (as of yesterday):
Wanpaku (Chain Store): 12 copies left
Best Denki: 8 copies left
Famicom Dojo: 1 copy (but only received one, they are a very small store)
Book Net (manga/anime/game shop): Sold out (they had around 6)
That is clearly not all of Japan, but in my town I can confirm that it is not supply constrained.
miguel_c_hammer
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Pureauthor said:
Well, they publish so many games... you'd think there should be that many new IPs if only by the law of averages. Regardless, it would be instructive to see a comparison of new IPs among the top Japanese publishers(Capcom, Konami, Namco-Bandai, Square-Enix, etc) over the last few years.
splattergnome
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Just a few comments about the DS/Wii games...
NDS
Spectrobes <-- The Disney-sponsored Pokemon-like Clone. Will it chart?
Theme Park DS <-- Probably less than SimCity, since not as well-known in Japan... or?
Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side 1st Love <--- Do we want to know what this is about? Dating game?
Konami Arcade Collection <-- Probably will not do very well, alas
Survival Kids: Lost in Blue 2 <-- Hopefully better sales than the first one, due to user base
Spinning Princess: Sparkling Figure * Ice Angel <-- Isn't this the figure skating game?
WII
Sonic and the Secret Rings <--Good chances for top 10?
NDS
Spectrobes <-- The Disney-sponsored Pokemon-like Clone. Will it chart?
Theme Park DS <-- Probably less than SimCity, since not as well-known in Japan... or?
Tokimeki Memorial: Girl's Side 1st Love <--- Do we want to know what this is about? Dating game?
Konami Arcade Collection <-- Probably will not do very well, alas
Survival Kids: Lost in Blue 2 <-- Hopefully better sales than the first one, due to user base
Spinning Princess: Sparkling Figure * Ice Angel <-- Isn't this the figure skating game?
WII
Sonic and the Secret Rings <--Good chances for top 10?
Cheesemeister
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Vinnk said:
What about The GameCube Hut?
splattergnome said:
Yes.
Segata Sanshiro
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Pureauthor said:I'm willing to vouch you don't have much idea what I'm talking about anyway.
I know all about the movement, Mr. Author. Now, are you willing to speak good English, or do I have to inform the Party?
<Harsh invective>
Pureauthor
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Segata Sanshiro said:
*activates hidden tradoor*
You'll never take me alive!
*leaps through trapdoor*
THUD!
... Stupid place to put a lever.
seattle6418
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wsippel said:
i disagree. outside of zelda, there´s nothing that speaks hardcore on the wii right now. everything else is trying to reach a broader audience, or i could say, trying to reach myamoto´s wife and such people into gaming.
the wii is constantly being talked about a complementary system to PS3 or 360. that´s not the case in japan, we knoe gaming has changed a lot there, but i wonder: did japanese gamers abandon harcore, real games, or they are just waiting a price drop on the PS3?
AndriaSang
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Professor Layton's success is pretty amazing. I haven't seen a single television commercial for it. Seems to be mostly word of mouth plus Level 5's reputation.
Pureauthor
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seattle6418 said:
Warioware? Pokemon? Wii Sports? Wii Play? Sonic? Elebits? FIRE EMBLEM?!
Funny, I thought a mark of the hardcore gamer was that they were willing to try more stuff than the casuals and nongamers.
The Japanese have not abandoned hardcore games. However, they're currently looking for them on the DS (and to a lesser extent the Wii), not the PS3.
Sgt. Killjoy
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Vinnk said:
oh naturally the anime and game store would sell out
anecdotal evidence ftw
Cheesemeister
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Famicom Land in Hamamatsu, before it relocated:
Segata Sanshiro
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seattle6418 said:
Talk about your false dichotomies.
"Famicom Dojo"... wow, seems someone had the GameCube Hut concept all wrapped up about 15-20 years in advance, didn't they?
But yeah, the whole 2 million-sellers for Wii thing is pretty damn funny when comparing to last gen. When DQS hits, that number will shoot to 3 million-sellers, of this I'm certain.
But yeah, the whole 2 million-sellers for Wii thing is pretty damn funny when comparing to last gen. When DQS hits, that number will shoot to 3 million-sellers, of this I'm certain.
Pureauthor
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The Sphinx said:
What about Marvelous?
Pureauthor
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Oh, yeah, that reminds me. Anyone got Luminous Arc LTD?
And once again, WHERE ARE THE FFIII numbers?
And once again, WHERE ARE THE FFIII numbers?
Hardcore gamers only like games that earn them "street cred" or come highly rated by some know-nothing journalist, and this explains why "good" games just don't cut it and are instant CRAP by comparison.Pureauthor said:
Face it, hardcore gamers nowadays are hyper-elitist turds in the same vein as the hyper-elitist jock/preppy turds who make fun of them for being geeks.
ShockingAlberto
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Normally I'd say you're crazy, but Japan is nutso for 2D Mario platformers these days.schuelma said:
Rocksteady33
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Is it just me or does it seem like the DS has just sparked an overall game buzz in general? I never really remember any games from last gen doing THAT well on consoles, I mean yes, there were some, but it was almost always Licensed Anime Game/Winning Eleven/Konami Baseball/Gundam for PS2. Over the past couple months we've even seen Xbox 360 games break the charts once in awhile, and Wii games are hitting million sellers, and one or two PS3 games managing to make the charts despite such a small userbase (yeah I know it's Gundam and shit though).
Maybe I just didn't pay enough attention to sales charts early on last gen, but it just seems like the launch of these consoles seems a lot more impressive in terms of software sales compared to the GameCube/PS2 (maybe not the PS2?)
Maybe I just didn't pay enough attention to sales charts early on last gen, but it just seems like the launch of these consoles seems a lot more impressive in terms of software sales compared to the GameCube/PS2 (maybe not the PS2?)
Cheesemeister
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Wow, I just noticed that Power Smash 3 (VT3) did less than Heroes of Mana, which reportedly did 10k.
Virtua Tennis selling 5-8k = SEGA BOMBA. Maybe they should've included ONLINE...stupid AM3 @_@
Virtua Tennis selling 5-8k = SEGA BOMBA. Maybe they should've included ONLINE...stupid AM3 @_@
who am I kidding, with online it would've sold 9k instead of 8k. Game needed to be on the DS
JavyOO7 said:I have a feeling Super Paper Mario won't do the numbers NSMB did. Just a feeling.
Yeah most assuredly not..but if it can at all tap into the 2-d love that NSMB rekindled, I think it could do very well.
Rocksteady33
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Error said:
Who said bad games don't sell? Ugh I hated NSMB.
60_gig_PS3
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Bebpo said:
360 version has online. Where's that one?
squatingyeti
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Bebpo said:
People picking it up on the 360 lol?
Pureauthor
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Cheesemeister said:
Nah, throughout each MC thread, there's been a post keeping us up to date on FFIII's progression.
I want that post. NAO.
seattle6418
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Pureauthor said:
oh please, of that list, only fire emblem and sonic would qualify as substantial games. i´m still not buying into collection of minigames.
i´m scared just thinking of a scenario in which wii dominates completely, and next time sony decides to do a wii-esque console... so what happens with FPS, sports, racing, action fans? japanese gamers are acting way weird the last couple of years... so much that capcom is starting to design games first with NA´s market in sight...
but it´s an MC thread, so its filled with ninty fanboys, i´m gonna get killed around here
I have the nagging sensation it would have sold more on the 360Bebpo said:
I think SPM will be the game that catapults Wii into DS-like success. It's Mario, it's a platformer, it's on the best selling home console.I have a feeling Super Paper Mario won't do the numbers NSMB did. Just a feeling.
NSMB still charts to this day.......... you do the math.
splattergnome
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Saitou said:
It depends on how Nintendo markets it and if they can tap the same audience - I don't know, with a "normal" 2d Mario they could, but Super Paper Mario's quirks make it a wild card. I am sure it will do reasonably well, but beyond that... its all in Nintendo's hands.