Juwanna Peezadis
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Bubububu Nintendo is killing gaming! =(Xisiqomelir said:
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Media Create Sales 4/30 - 5/06
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creamsugar said:
I notice the difference between Famitsu H/W and M-create H/W.
Is it possible that we are experiencing another statistical issue, like what happened during GC era ?
For those who did not remember it, M-create undertrack GCN sales in 2001, while Famitsu overtrack GCN sales in 2001. In 2002, M-create adjust their GCN multiplier up, while Famitsu adjust their GCN multiplier down.
Historical data
GCN M-create Famitsu
2001 795,206 925,000
2002 1,129,300 1,034,484
Is it possible that what is happening now, with the Wii, is that M-create is overtracking, while Famitsu is undertracking ? I do not really follow weekly Famitsu H/W data, so if anyone have the data, we can try to compare it.
here is Wii H/W data, M-create, starting from Jan 01-07, up to the latest data :
Jan Week 1 (01-07) 195,331
93,708
86,395
83,754
65,740
78,550
63,618
78,506
57,972
44,495
67,070
75,571
51,365
52,583
75,759
77,913
102,522
May Week 1 (30-06) 101,320
JoshuaJSlone said:
ah. then carry on. i've been frantically searching, and what i found was this on gamasutra:
gamasutra said:
http://www.gamasutra.com/newswire/news/index20000306.htm
so, yeah, i guess the million is a bit suspect since a quarter of it wasn't actually in gamers' hands. i guess i can go ahead and file the 1 million launch ps2s in the same cabinet that has ps2's production shipments and the 10.4 million xbox 360s by the end of 2006.
Cheesemeister
Member
Tobor said:My name is Nintendo Montoya. You killed my market dominance. Prepare to die.
Fixed.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Jirotrom said:
Pretendo? I thought that died with PSX...
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Slurpy said:
2 posts, registered yesterday. I expect it was a GAFfer.
seems that way. But denial runs strong in that community.
In any case, many Sony fans are beginnig to come to terms with the reality in Japan. the wii has ridiculous momentum, based off of only a small handfull of titles thus far. the software chart representation really looks like a BLue ocean itself. I had high hopes for the wii, but its even exceeding the wildest expectations I had where it would at least outsell the Cube. Now its at a rate close to outselling the Ps2 in Japan. Its ****ing crazy.
In any case, many Sony fans are beginnig to come to terms with the reality in Japan. the wii has ridiculous momentum, based off of only a small handfull of titles thus far. the software chart representation really looks like a BLue ocean itself. I had high hopes for the wii, but its even exceeding the wildest expectations I had where it would at least outsell the Cube. Now its at a rate close to outselling the Ps2 in Japan. Its ****ing crazy.
Jasoncheng
Member
Dengeki-Ranking
http://www.dengekionline.com/soft/ranking.html
TOP50
NDS:35
Wii:6
PS2:5
PSP:4
Nintendo TOP 15
http://www.dengekionline.com/soft/ranking.html
TOP50
NDS:35
Wii:6
PS2:5
PSP:4
Nintendo TOP 15
PhoenixDark
Banned
Jirotrom said:
Pretendo:lol :lol :lol
Eteric Rice said:
Dude, you continually ignore the caliber of the team behind The Crystal Bearers and the impressions that we've got. From 1Up:
"Once the video for Ring of Fates was finished, Toshiyuki Itahana - in a rare appearance - walked up on stage to reveal The Crystal Bearers for the Nintendo Wii. Featuring a much more adventurous feel than any of the Crystal Chronicles games before it, The Crystal Bearers featured sky ships and other elements that draw instant comparisons to Sega's classic role-playing game Skies of Arcadia. Looking nothing like the teaser trailer shown last year, The Crystal Bearers looks less like the other Crystal Chronicles games, and more like a true adventure game. While the video demonstration was very short (around 30 seconds at most), it was notable in that it featured real game footage of the title in action running on Nintendo Wii."
Bolded for emphasis.
From IGN:
"A trailer was shown -- a brief video cut together from short snippets of real-time in-game footage. The video was more meant to show off the art style being employed in the game and not actual gameplay, so we got a lot of shots of the lead character -- a blond haired bloke with goggles -- jumping around in cutscenes. But it was real-time, and it looked sharp and smooth, and it looked like the game's going to be in widescreen on the Nintendo Wii."
Seriously, if this has Wi-Fi, Secret of Mana-esque multiplayer, and music and combat similar to the first game, I'm definitely more anticipated for it than Final Fantasy XIII, which is shaping up to be stylistically VERY similar to Advent Children (which I don't dig). Don't count out its ability to be "epic" because it has a subtitle after the "Final Fantasy" moniker. Whoever denies the epicness of Tactics gets kneed in the nuts.
Battersea Power Station
Member
Odysseus, what was the criteria for you quitting gaming? I forgot. Also, when you quit, will you remain on GAF?
Clever Pun
Member
Tristam said:
you know, there's a lot of good reasoning behind this.
apujanata said:
I bought:
Zelda (so can play it in English)
Super Paper Mario (Because I hadn't bought it in Japan)
Metal Slug Anthology (Because it was not released in Japan)
An English copy of Excite Truck to go with my Japanese one (Because... It's very EXCITE!)
As for the lower sales of Wii this week, I am sure it is mostly because there are none to buy. It's the first time since I started doing "Vinnk's Village" that they were sold out at EVERY store.
Adumaha said:
It's like a county but bigger and like a state but smaller... hmm.. I'll let wiki explain for me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prefecture#Japanese_sense_of_prefecture
Holy ****ing crap.
42/50 games on the Nintendo systems, wow. Very good sales for Wii and DS.
Sony can't compete in Japan at all.
So which one of these numbers is correct? apujanata's or Cheesemeister's one? Anyone else tracks the hardware sales?
42/50 games on the Nintendo systems, wow. Very good sales for Wii and DS.
Sony can't compete in Japan at all.
Cheesemeister said:
apujanata said:
So which one of these numbers is correct? apujanata's or Cheesemeister's one? Anyone else tracks the hardware sales?
I'm sure Vink can give a more accurate answer, but a prefecture could be similar to a state/province. Japan is made up of 47 prefectures. Each are led by a governor and a single chamber parliament.
Edit: Damn, Vinnk already answered while I was typing my reply.
Vinnk, did you make sure to buy those US games at stores tracked by NPD (like EB Games)?
Edit: Damn, Vinnk already answered while I was typing my reply.
Vinnk, did you make sure to buy those US games at stores tracked by NPD (like EB Games)?
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Here's a comparison chart, using the official numbers to now. It is interesting to note that while they used to bounce back and forth as to which was higher, Famitsu has been consistently lower for the last month or so.apujanata said:
Looking at the running sum, Famitsu's total had previously been higher, so this recent lowness has actually brought it closer to MC's total.
Cheesemeister's. Mine differs by 3, but I never take into account when they release yearly totals that differ slightly from the sums of the weekly numbers.starship said:
JoshuaJSlone said:
Those two things really caught my eye. PS3 is doing so much worse than GCN did. And July '09? Man. I remember when we did this stuff for DS vs PSP and the dates just kept getting farther and farther out.
There is just no way for the PS3 to recover at this point. None. The only legitimate chance to make up any ground is with FF XIII, and that's just not going to do it. DQ IX going to the DS really really hurts Sony at this point.
Cheesemeister
Member
starship said:
Feel free to cross-check my numbers.
Code:
PS2 PSP PS3 360 GBA NGC NDS WII Update
20154859 4532129 457558 264702 15298079 4169468 14005679 919643 2006-LTD
52037 118186 69944 18235 5732 1258 344953 195331 20070101
22663 48804 25531 9035 3585 611 89328 93708 20070108
20169 37032 21105 7041 3456 554 127770 86395 20070115
20995 35700 19996 7365 2234 347 194608 83754 20070122
17540 31216 18727 6130 1802 306 146192 65740 20070129
16033 32175 23431 4811 1900 383 201298 78550 20070205
16192 34505 20676 5210 1836 347 136999 63618 20070212
15054 100210 19315 4183 2001 323 136260 78506 20070219
15364 66156 44000 3379 1568 303 111926 57972 20070226
14585 56175 32115 3333 1504 240 108631 44495 20070305
13321 43769 21635 2910 1293 367 121630 67070 20070312
16961 41546 20459 3492 1394 270 130684 75571 20070319
17787 39077 16889 3889 1206 205 80012 51365 20070326
14234 31503 14520 2963 1357 255 110935 52583 20070402
12872 24850 11948 2900 1297 167 133471 75759 20070409
11398 29459 11000 2307 1364 266 172440 77913 20070416
12584 33860 12791 3162 1125 167 256063 102522 20070423
14815 35172 12974 3205 653 394 285192 101320 20070430Cheesemeister
Member
TJ Spyke said:
At the pre-Golden Week surge rate (two weeks ago), it wouldn't happen 'til November, 2014.
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
AdmiralViscen said:
Flimsy.
RE4 came out on the Gamecube because all the previous titles had come out on it as well. When RE:make was announced, it was still anyone's guess who would "win" last generation. By the time RE:0 came out it was apparent that the gamecube was doomed, but they kept their "promise" to have the series stay on the Gamecube despite all the spinoffs that came out on the PS2. It kind of reminds me of what square may or may not do with the Final Fantasy franchise on the PS3/Wii. They'll keep the main stuff on the originally intended platform (PS3), but they'll also develop an inordinate amount of "spinoffs" for the Wii as well.
Besides, RE4 came out for the PS2 anyways.