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Media Create Sales 4/30 - 5/06
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Forgotten Ancient
Banned
Nazgul_Hunter said:
:lol :lol
I used to love going to that forum during the beginning of last gen. It was painful to be a ninthing, but still fun nonetheless.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
This Week Sales:
Since 11/27/07:
23 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
13 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.
360 - Established Trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 8,010. Post Holiday Avg = 4,430.
Wii - Growing Trend: 70-90k. Next Gen Avg = 103,122. Post Holiday Avg = 73,932.
PS3 - Dropping Trend: 8-14k. Next Gen Avg = 38,027. Post Holiday Avg = 20,418.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
● The 360's sales are insignificant. They will not hit 1 million units before its successor is announced. 2k-5k per week for the foreseeable future.
● The PS3's sales are insignificant. Sony will not break 35% market share this generation. 8-15k for the foreseeable future.
● The Wii's sales have clearly established market dominance. Expect it to return to earth a little, but a little buoyed coming off of a couple big weeks. 75k (+/- 10k) for the summer.
Expectations for 05/07-05/13
360 - 2.8k*
Wii - 77k*
PS3 - 11k*
* = within 5k estimation success the previous week!
This Week's Market Share:
LTD Market Share Week-to-Week
Significant Notes:
● The Wii now has a 1.5 million unit lead! (1st week)
● The Wii sold 7.81x the PS3 this week, and has 2.71x LTD.
● The Wii is around 9-10 weeks from breaking 3 million.
● The PS3 is around 10-12 weeks from breaking 1 million.
● The PS3 has never. once. outsold. the Wii.
● The Wii seriously has 103k weekly average (23 weeks). The PS3? 35k.
● The Wii has sold as much as the 360 and the PS3 put together. Twice. (1.91x)
● One would note that Sony has finally dropped below 1/4 (24%) market share, and Nintendo is close to 2/3rds (66%) market share.
If sales repeated this week's results indefinitely, barring all other factors:
(with the mental note that these ARE Golden Week numbers)
● The Wii will have a 2 million unit lead by JUNE 2007.
● The Wii will have a 3 million unit lead by SEPTEMBER 2007.
Additional thoughts
1. 117.5k home consoles sold this week in Japan (101K were Wii units--that's 86%).
2. If you're developing for the PS3, you're going multi-platform. If not, Sony is paying you the difference.
3. Japan has decided.
4. It's as if Sony doesn't even care about Japan. Or they've already given up. Shameful. They have brought shame on what was once a glorious empire.
5. Hype for DQS, FFCC, Opoona, and Dewey all growing. All 3rd party.
The one last thing I would add this week is just how astounding it is to think of where we've come from just two years ago. Even then the DS stuff might've been considered a fluke. Right now, Nintendo has Japan's number and it's not really even up for debate at this point. The one thing I am counseling myself with (and hopefully other Sony fans) is that one day, so so long ago...nobody dreamed that Nintendo could be taken down. 10 years later, nobody dreamed that Sony could be taken down. Cycles change, dominance wanes, but great games are forever. This isn't the last battle. Remember that.
Since 11/27/07:
23 Total Weeks of Next Gen sales.
13 Total Weeks of post-holiday sales.
360 - Established Trend: 2-4k. Next Gen Avg = 8,010. Post Holiday Avg = 4,430.
Wii - Growing Trend: 70-90k. Next Gen Avg = 103,122. Post Holiday Avg = 73,932.
PS3 - Dropping Trend: 8-14k. Next Gen Avg = 38,027. Post Holiday Avg = 20,418.
Results, Analysis, & Expectations
● The 360's sales are insignificant. They will not hit 1 million units before its successor is announced. 2k-5k per week for the foreseeable future.
● The PS3's sales are insignificant. Sony will not break 35% market share this generation. 8-15k for the foreseeable future.
● The Wii's sales have clearly established market dominance. Expect it to return to earth a little, but a little buoyed coming off of a couple big weeks. 75k (+/- 10k) for the summer.
Expectations for 05/07-05/13
360 - 2.8k*
Wii - 77k*
PS3 - 11k*
* = within 5k estimation success the previous week!
This Week's Market Share:
LTD Market Share Week-to-Week
Code:
Date____ 360 Wii PS3
11/27-12/03: 25% 49% 26%
12/04-12/10: 24% 49% 27%
12/11-12/17: 21% 50% 29%
12/18-12/24: 17% 57% 26%
12/25-12/31: 16% 56% 28%
01/01-01/07: 15% 58% 27%
01/08-01/14: 14% 59% 27%
01/15-01/21: 14% 60% 26%
01/22-01/28: 13% 60% 26%
01/29-02/04: 13% 61% 26%
02/05-02/11: 13% 61% 26%
02/12-02/18: 13% 62% 26%
02/19-02/25: 12% 62% 25%
03/26-03/04: 12% 62% 26%
03/05-03/11: 12% 62% 26%
03/12-03/18: 11% 62% 26%
03/19-03/25: 11% 63% 26%
03/26-04/01: 11% 63% 26%
04/02-04/08: 11% 63% 26%
04/09-04/15: 11% 64% 26%
04/16-04/22: 10% 64% 25%
04/23-04/29: 10% 65% 25%
04/30-05/06: 10% 66% 24%Significant Notes:
● The Wii now has a 1.5 million unit lead! (1st week)
● The Wii sold 7.81x the PS3 this week, and has 2.71x LTD.
● The Wii is around 9-10 weeks from breaking 3 million.
● The PS3 is around 10-12 weeks from breaking 1 million.
● The PS3 has never. once. outsold. the Wii.
● The Wii seriously has 103k weekly average (23 weeks). The PS3? 35k.
● The Wii has sold as much as the 360 and the PS3 put together. Twice. (1.91x)
● One would note that Sony has finally dropped below 1/4 (24%) market share, and Nintendo is close to 2/3rds (66%) market share.
If sales repeated this week's results indefinitely, barring all other factors:
(with the mental note that these ARE Golden Week numbers)
● The Wii will have a 2 million unit lead by JUNE 2007.
● The Wii will have a 3 million unit lead by SEPTEMBER 2007.
Additional thoughts
1. 117.5k home consoles sold this week in Japan (101K were Wii units--that's 86%).
2. If you're developing for the PS3, you're going multi-platform. If not, Sony is paying you the difference.
3. Japan has decided.
4. It's as if Sony doesn't even care about Japan. Or they've already given up. Shameful. They have brought shame on what was once a glorious empire.
5. Hype for DQS, FFCC, Opoona, and Dewey all growing. All 3rd party.
The one last thing I would add this week is just how astounding it is to think of where we've come from just two years ago. Even then the DS stuff might've been considered a fluke. Right now, Nintendo has Japan's number and it's not really even up for debate at this point. The one thing I am counseling myself with (and hopefully other Sony fans) is that one day, so so long ago...nobody dreamed that Nintendo could be taken down. 10 years later, nobody dreamed that Sony could be taken down. Cycles change, dominance wanes, but great games are forever. This isn't the last battle. Remember that.
..pakbeka..
Member
yea it wasForgotten Ancient said:
lovely karma
junkwaffle
In Front and Drawing Away
60_gig_PS3
Banned
PS3 is getting stomped. I request change in username
bananabread
Member
junkwaffle said:
Amazing.
AzureNightmare
Banned
This guy seemed to be the leader of the pack... I mean just look at that stupidity :lol :lol :lol
nextgeneration
Member
PantherLotus said:
Well said, Panther, and so very true, and always love your analysis. And thanks to JoshuaJSlone for his always, in-depth analysis and statistics. You guys make these Media Create threads so enjoyable to read.
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
:lolbananabread said:
That reminds me of the "PS3 in stock!!!" signs sticked to the windows of my local gamestop. Right next to the ones saying "Wii out of stock".
How the mighty have fallen.
perfectchaos007
Member
Market share
04/30-05/06:
360 Wii PS3
10% 66% 24%
A two thirds market share for Nintendo. It wasn't even this much during the Genesis days was it? This has got to be like the biggest market share Nintendo has had since........there was Just Nintendo! ( ok, well it was never just nintendo. Atari had like a 1% market share when the NES was around )
BTW, don't NPD numbers come out next Thursday? It will be interesting if Sony blames shortages once again for falling sales.
04/30-05/06:
360 Wii PS3
10% 66% 24%
A two thirds market share for Nintendo. It wasn't even this much during the Genesis days was it? This has got to be like the biggest market share Nintendo has had since........there was Just Nintendo! ( ok, well it was never just nintendo. Atari had like a 1% market share when the NES was around )
BTW, don't NPD numbers come out next Thursday? It will be interesting if Sony blames shortages once again for falling sales.
..pakbeka.. said:yea it was
lovely karma
Well I haven't visited there in a few weeks, but I assume everything is the same now. If that's the case, it's just as painful to be a Nintendo fan: wave after wave of posts and topics reading "teh lil wiiwii's grafx are made with my butt lol," "sheep all u got is sales lol," "sheep what happens when mgs4 and ffxiii come out???," "wii is a fad and a gimmik lol," "u sheep only have kiddy games lol."
Am I off the mark?
StevieP said:
The quote (to paraphrase) "wii grafx suk i can make them wit my butt" is in the sig of at least a few Nintendo fans there. For reference, in SW lingo, sheep are Nintendo fans, cows are Sony fans, lemmings are Microsoft fans, and hermits are PC gamers.
Anyways, looking at the pie chart PantherLotus posted, if only we could've seen that right before launch!
EDIT: I didn't realize you said here, heh. I guess the posts are masked by better spelling and grammar (otherwise I'm sure a mod would pull out the banstick), but the message is there all the same. Still, as much as you may think the Wii is hated on in GAF, there is NO comparison to System Wars.
StevieP said:
NO comparison. You can spend a few hours in there if you want, but I'd really advise against it.
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
StevieP said:
Oh god no. Nothing can compare to Gamespot's system wars forum.
Purple kiddie cube
lunchbox
sheep
Wait til Brute Force
Wait til Fable
etc. etc.
At a glance it might sound similar to what you get here. But, it was persistent over there. Every thread was filled with garbage and lists and excuses and joke posts and whatever. A forum full of Drinkys, when there really can be only one.
It was so bad that I sought refuge in...the IGN boards.
Thank god GAF took me under it's wing so many years ago.
donkey show
Member
God forbid when DQ:S comes out. Japan loves it some DQ.
Japan loves it some DQ.PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Oblivion said:
YEAH! By almost 33% of the 360's weekly sales, too!
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
Damn Nintendo and their artificial shortages...
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
santouras said:
Not at all.
Drinky=Gahiggidy, of course he's a Nintendo fan. He already is grooming his daughter on Pokemon.
AzureNightmare
Banned
Forgotten Ancient said:Not at all.
Drinky=Gahiggidy, of course he's a Nintendo fan. He already is grooming his daughter on Pokemon.
Drinky=GAF Legend. He is the unbannable one
Forgotten Ancient
Banned
Oblivion said:
You don't sound very lost.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
Oblivion said:
Wii Last week = 102k
Wii This week = 101k
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Wii Dropped = 1k
360's Weekly Sales = 3k
(Wii Dropped)/(360's Weekly Sales) = 33%
Phife Dawg
Member
davepoobond said:
You're pretty much contradicting yourself here. I do agree though that publishers will put out software as long as they can make money on it, regardless of userbase.davepoobond said:
Speaking of which, did the DSL see a price drop yet in Japan? Can't remember.TheGreatDave said:
I couldn't agree more. Then again I'm biased since I don't like JRPGs but do like J action adventures. Anyways it seems SE has two solid offerings on the Wii in CC and DQS. It's nothing to scoff at.Tristam said:
In the end to not miss out you'll have to have more than one console. Wouldn't have liked not to have a GC last gen for instance.
So you're one of those "fans" that always stick to the winning team? I think your username in correlation with your tag is rather hillarious.60_gig_PS3 said:PS3 is getting stomped. I request change in username
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Heidir said:
I'm up. Almost 300k for the Nintendo DS is a great achievement. Wii > 100k was expected, but it is clear it is has supply problems as always.
Speevy said:
Because it is not necessary. The Wii is selling so well, that they take all the necessary time to make great games. With the Gamecube, sales were so pathetic that they were obliged to ship games like Mario Sunshine earlier and we have seen the results in quality.
As long as the Wii sells like crazy with only Wii Sports, Wii Play and Super Paper Mario, Super Mario Galaxy will not come out so soon.
Mithos Yggdrasill
Banned
Cheesemeister said:
Unbelievable. Unglaublich. Incroyable. Che roba gente !!!
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Phife Dawg said:
i dont think so. you can still make a technically impressive game downloadable. It just won't have as much content in it, but that comes with the type of distribution.
underfooter
Banned
PantherLotus you do an excellent job. If I had a company....that.....did things....I'd hire you.
Wii is cleaning up. Wow. It's price people, I tell you its price. You release a cheap console and one big game (wii sports), get every person competing with each other at it....and BOOM.
I bet Mario and Smash Bros. are just going to clean up later this year. I can't friggin' wait.
Wii is cleaning up. Wow. It's price people, I tell you its price. You release a cheap console and one big game (wii sports), get every person competing with each other at it....and BOOM.
I bet Mario and Smash Bros. are just going to clean up later this year. I can't friggin' wait.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
davepoobond said:
I'm admittedly jumping into a conversation, but the same argument could be made for making certain games downGRADEable so they could fit onto certain other less hardware-intensive systems.
Nothing on the top of my head though.