bananabread
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Requesting that in a month or two someone takes all the pie charts and animates them like a flip book, showing Pacman chomping down hard.
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Media Create Sales 4/9 - 4/15
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bgassassin
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Mar_ said:
with a taste of...
Hcoregamer00
The 'H' stands for hentai.
linsivvi said:
Well, to put it more realistically.
The consumers aren't willing to pay $301-600 on something that is considered a toy. They sure like paying $100-300 on them.
Lesson is....we love pretty graphics and powerful hardware, as long as you give it to us under $300.
EphemeralDream
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I just wanted to say that I saw this right as the Lost Odyssey Theme came up on my playlist. You know, the ticking clock and all.Cheesemeister said:
StopMakingSense
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What with NPD I had totally forgotten about hardware today. DS is a monster. An absolute monster.
Battersea Power Station
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How can the HD era be dead? Are you saying that in 10 or so years, when all broadcasts in Japan are in HD and the vast majority of viewers have HD sets, there won't be any HD consoles?Doom_Bringer said:
fresquito said:
Or maybe they'll pull a Shawshank Redemption. Being thrust into territory they've never known, can't deal with it and decide to carve their names into a wooden beam a which point they tip the chair and let gravity do the work.
By the way, did I mention there would be a noose around their necks the entire time?
JoshuaJSlone
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Wii comparisons: At 20 weeks, Wii is where GCN was at 75.0 weeks (February 16, 2003), where DS was at 20.2 weeks (April 18, 2005), where PS2 was at 18.0 weeks (July 2, 2000), and where PSP was at 50.1 weeks (November 20, 2005).
To point out a few notables from above if you didn't notice, Wii is now over a year ahead of GameCube. Also, this is the first week it's ahead of DS by Media Create's count.
PS3 comparisons: At 23 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 2.7 weeks (March 17, 2000), where PSP was at 9.9 weeks (February 11, 2005), where GCN was at 15.3 weeks (December 25, 2001), and where Wii was at 4.2 weeks (December 25, 2006).
PS3 vs Wii: This week's PS3/Wii share is 13.6 / 86.4. Wii has only had a higher percentage on the week of its launch. Total share is 28.6 / 71.4. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 104.8 weeks (April 17, 2009). If the flip occurred, they'd meet in 19.6 weeks (August 30, 2007).
PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, they meet up in 35.3 weeks (December 18, 2007) at 20.9 million apiece.
Microsoft's 2007 YTD hardware sales have passed their 2005 total, though that basically means they beat X360's launch month plus a dozen thousand Xboxen.
It's worth noting that while Wii has been falling a bit behind the PS2's early numbers, if demand stays high it could soon gain some ground. It looks like at about this time PS2 started going down. How much of it is due to demand being sated and how much is due to Sony preparing for the NA/EU PS2 launches is hard to say. Anyway, if Wii maintains 50K and above it will be making up the difference.
To point out a few notables from above if you didn't notice, Wii is now over a year ahead of GameCube. Also, this is the first week it's ahead of DS by Media Create's count.
PS3 comparisons: At 23 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 2.7 weeks (March 17, 2000), where PSP was at 9.9 weeks (February 11, 2005), where GCN was at 15.3 weeks (December 25, 2001), and where Wii was at 4.2 weeks (December 25, 2006).
PS3 vs Wii: This week's PS3/Wii share is 13.6 / 86.4. Wii has only had a higher percentage on the week of its launch. Total share is 28.6 / 71.4. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 104.8 weeks (April 17, 2009). If the flip occurred, they'd meet in 19.6 weeks (August 30, 2007).
PS2 vs DS: At this week's rates, they meet up in 35.3 weeks (December 18, 2007) at 20.9 million apiece.
Microsoft's 2007 YTD hardware sales have passed their 2005 total, though that basically means they beat X360's launch month plus a dozen thousand Xboxen.
It's worth noting that while Wii has been falling a bit behind the PS2's early numbers, if demand stays high it could soon gain some ground. It looks like at about this time PS2 started going down. How much of it is due to demand being sated and how much is due to Sony preparing for the NA/EU PS2 launches is hard to say. Anyway, if Wii maintains 50K and above it will be making up the difference.
Phife Dawg
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Well I think everyone (including Sony) thought that Gundam Mussou would have a bigger impact both on soft- and hardware. Long development cycles for PS3 games don't help either.AlphaSnake said:
I don't doubt it for a second. Sony (as a whole) is on a good course. The walkman mobile line is fairing pretty well, just like the Bravia tv sets and this is after Sony missed the train both on MP3 playback and LCD tv sets. Financially it won't be a problem. MS is bleeding even more money and they'll have no problem funding X360-2.Rur0ni said:
Smiles and Cries
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RaidenZR said:
No it took me weeks to get it, but with the color change at least you can see the big Blue Ocean
JoshuaJSlone
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I like the chart. The shape reminds me of a ChuChu Rocket! cat's mouth.
For each week, the software sales between X360, Wii, and PS3 sum to some number which is 100%. Each system gets a fraction of that amount, which determines how much of the height they take that week. By relative thickness you can tell how well they did compared to each other. This week it looks like PS2 has around 20%, X360 10%, and Wii the rest.
No, that's come up in the past.RaidenZR said:
For each week, the software sales between X360, Wii, and PS3 sum to some number which is 100%. Each system gets a fraction of that amount, which determines how much of the height they take that week. By relative thickness you can tell how well they did compared to each other. This week it looks like PS2 has around 20%, X360 10%, and Wii the rest.
Did you imagine Dragon Quest IX going to DS? Did you imagine Wii outselling PS3 many times over a few months after launch? Unbelievable things sometimes happen.sphinx said:
Phife Dawg said:
I wanted to add something to this.
When did we hear actually hear about Musou first? I seem to recall it was around the PS3 launch, or maybe even after? Either way, it came out pretty quick from when it was announced - I wonder what the cycle time was on this title? It wasn't the best looking game graphically (well at least according to GAF pre-release
) but it sold well.I'm wondering why developers assume they have to put x-bazillion dollars into a title. Look at Nintendo - moving Zelda and Super Paper Mario (among others) was a good move, even if people didn't think it was (coz they look like shit har har har).
I mean Sony probably isn't breaking the bank on Minna no Golf and that Summer Vacation game, I'm sure other developers can put out something like that and make a decent return. Of course, if they want to not do a full HD game they would just move it to the Wii. Tough choice...
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Juwanna Peezadis
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I said "Wow." Wonder how far ahead the Wii can get until it comes to the time where DS hit "Easter."JoshuaJSlone said:
EDIT: I'm almost ready to jump on the moku train. You can punch my ticket if PS3 falls more next week or doesn't show a greater than 3k improvement.
It's like a chart pie for all three next-gen systems on a weekly basis since the week prior to the PS3 launch.RaidenZR said:
Edit: and example:
For this week PS3 got almost 25% sales of next-gen systems. Xbox360 less than 10% and Wii the rest.
I'm guessing you weren't around in the N64/PSone days, were you?sphinx said:
fresquito said:
that's right.
I wasn't there.I can't imagine how terrible would have been to be a nintendo fanboy back then.
back to the FFXIII thing, I really think the game is set in stone for a PS3 release, that is what we know and it's not going too change.
I really can't believe in the Moku train because the game is perhaps the best looking shit on PS3, there is no way you can simply " downgrade it a little" to make it possible on Wii. It would have to be a whole new game, which then wouldn't be " FFXIII" any more... 360 is out of the question, it's dead in Japan and irrelevant for SE.
I think SE will swallow it. They will go according to plan, they will hope that the game sells hardware and that the losses are kept at a minimum. The damage the FF brand will have taken by then will be beyond repair. FFXIV on wii would only split the audience...
they have 2 choices:
a.- Take it like a men and lose big time.
b.- Lose/invest extra money doing a " from the ground up " port for the Wii and bring the franchise back home for FFXIV..
I don't know.
SE is in DEEP trouble.
Lobster said:
Here's a quick tip for reading the chart. The big blue blob means Wii is selling a lot of software, about 70% of all software is Wii software. The green blob on the top Is for 360, it's selling about 10% of all the home console software for this week. Finally the black blob at the bottom is Sony and they have a 20% of the software marketshare this week. Just go week by week at the bottom to see the current software marketshare. It's all in the subtraction.
MightyHedgehog
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Looking at the time on the bottom, look straight up to the top to see the overall next-gen marketshare.RaidenZR said:
Smiles and Cries
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sphinx said:that's right.
I can't imagine how terrible would have been to be a nintendo fanboy back then.
back to the FFXIII thing, I really think the game is set in stone for a PS3 release, that is what we know and it's not going too change.
I really can't believe in the Moku train because the game is perhaps the best looking shit on PS3, there is no way you can simply " downgrade it a little" to make it possible on Wii. It would have to be a whole new game, which then wouldn't be " FFXIII" any more... 360 is out of the question, it's dead in Japan and irrelevant for SE.
I think SE will swallow it. They will go according to plan, they will hope that the game sells hardware and that the losses are kept at a minimum. The damage the FF brand will have taken by then will be beyond repair. FFXIV on wii would only split the audience...
they have 2 choices:
a.- Take it like a men and lose big time.
b.- Lose/invest extra money doing a " from the ground up " port for the Wii and bring the franchise back home for FFXIV..
I don't know.
SE is in DEEP trouble.
A) PS3 will have its FFXIII
B) FFXIII Wii Edition
The FFXIII for Wii will not be a simple downgrade to Wii from PS3 it will be a game created with another engine that fits the Wii and will be the best looking game on the Wii period.
It will come. BELIEVE!
bananabread
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sphinx said:that's right.
I can't imagine how terrible would have been to be a nintendo fanboy back then.
back to the FFXIII thing, I really think the game is set in stone for a PS3 release, that is what we know and it's not going too change.
I really can't believe in the Moku train because the game is perhaps the best looking shit on PS3, there is no way you can simply " downgrade it a little" to make it possible on Wii. It would have to be a whole new game, which then wouldn't be " FFXIII" any more... 360 is out of the question, it's dead in Japan and irrelevant for SE.
I think SE will swallow it. They will go according to plan, they will hope that the game sells hardware and that the losses are kept at a minimum. The damage the FF brand will have taken by then will be beyond repair. FFXIV on wii would only split the audience...
they have 2 choices:
a.- Take it like a men and lose big time.
b.- Lose/invest extra money doing a " from the ground up " port for the Wii and bring the franchise back home for FFXIV..
I don't know.
SE is in DEEP trouble.
Of the two points there, "B" looks a hell of a lot more attractive. If they go through door A not only does FFXIII get sent to die, the FF brand as a whole suffers immensely and FFXIV won't make nearly as big a splash. At least with option B they have a chance, even if they have to invest a bit.
Smiles and Cries
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marc^o^ said:
I think it was said that the new factory may take a few months to go into full production
can't remember where I read it
Smiles and Cries
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lupin23rd said:
Square did not want to play with carts anymore, and seriously hated Nintendo at the time so sales did not matter
Does someone know how many Wii units were sold overall in March in Japan?
We know of the 260K figure for NA. Europe had increased shipments last month so it could be as high as 300K and I assume Japan was near this number as well. That would leave 150K unsold Wii units from a 1 million month production, which could be kept in Japan to sustain Golden week(s demand?
We know of the 260K figure for NA. Europe had increased shipments last month so it could be as high as 300K and I assume Japan was near this number as well. That would leave 150K unsold Wii units from a 1 million month production, which could be kept in Japan to sustain Golden week(s demand?
JoshuaJSlone
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I don't think Golden Week is such a big deal that it would cause sales to triple without a game to push it.justchris said:
Actually, it seems that's already passed. Wii now is where DS was ~April 18, 2005. The famous "Easter" week was the week of March 21 - March 27, 2005.Juwanna Peezadis said:
I don't think Wii will have a problem staying ahead through one full year at least. DS had some good peaks that year, but the big deal was really how consistently it stayed ahead of PSP; it still had a lot of sub-50K weeks. When the comparison gets to December 2005/2007, then things get tricky because DS explodes.
The 360 sitting at the top doesn't mean it's getting 100% of the software sales. It's the thickness of its section you look at. This week its portion goes from ~90% to 100%, so it's got 10% of the software sales among those three systems.Lobster said:
Such things aren't unheard of. Resident Evil in particular seems a series well known for having entries start nearly from scratch well into development.sphinx said:
Getting close, though. In the comparison of Wii now to DS 2 years ago, DS 2005 is getting Nintendogs next week and Brain Training a month after that.legend166 said:
Unfortunately I haven't a source for numbers that age beyond ioi's, but for FF VII it would've been probably 1.5-2 million when announced, and ~5 million by the time it was released.lupin23rd said:
Phife Dawg
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Well I don't know how long Gundam had been in development prior to it's release, but I bet you it wasn't a mere couple of months (4-6). And since when did Mussou games ever looked good?lupin23rd said:I wanted to add something to this.
When did we hear actually hear about Musou first? I seem to recall it was around the PS3 launch, or maybe even after? Either way, it came out pretty quick from when it was announced - I wonder what the cycle time was on this title? It wasn't the best looking game graphically (well at least according to GAF pre-release
I'm wondering why developers assume they have to put x-bazillion dollars into a title. Look at Nintendo - moving Zelda and Super Paper Mario (among others) was a good move, even if people didn't think it was (coz they look like shit har har har).
I mean Sony probably isn't breaking the bank on Minna no Golf and that Summer Vacation game, I'm sure other developers can put out something like that and make a decent return. Of course, if they want to not do a full HD game they would just move it to the Wii. Tough choice...
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It's by no stretch of the imagination a "small" game.
Cheesemeister
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marc^o^ said:
Here's the DS. Boy, am I tired.
2/26 ~ 3/04 = 111,926
3/05 ~ 3/11 = 108,631
3/12 ~ 3/18 = 121,630
3/19 ~ 3/25 = 130,684
3/26 ~ 4/01 = 080,012
4/7 week 2/26 ~ 3/04 = 063,958
3 weeks 3/05 ~ 3/25 = 360,945
6/7 week 3/26 ~ 4/01 = 068,582
Total March estimate = 493,485
Wii
2/26 ~ 3/04 = 57,972
3/05 ~ 3/11 = 44,495
3/12 ~ 3/18 = 67,070
3/19 ~ 3/25 = 75,571
3/26 ~ 4/01 = 51,365
4/7 week 2/26 ~ 3/04 = 033,127
3 weeks 3/05 ~ 3/25 = 187,136
6/7 week 3/26 ~ 4/01 = 044,027
Total March estimate = 264,290
Thanks! That's on par with the NA figure. Let's say Europe received 260K as well. Nintendo sold around 800K consoles in March. The 200K missing will surely be allocated to US and Japan in April, to sustain the demand generated by the Super Paper Mario TV ads. I expect impressive Wii figures in the next charts.Cheesemeister said:
Well well well, the Wii had a firecracker lit up it again for no reason other than a higher shipment, next week will be huge, I'm calling 200k, seriously, PS3, 50k, and DS, well, the number will be higher than awesome, but falls short of being made of Win and God.
Sony is losing Japan, if they were playing operation, the buzzer would have broken by now due to overuse, it's pretty much safe to say they are on life support in Japan, at least until June.
Sony is losing Japan, if they were playing operation, the buzzer would have broken by now due to overuse, it's pretty much safe to say they are on life support in Japan, at least until June.
One thing I'd like to add concerning FFXIII, I'm sure it's probably been touched on.
What if SE decides to switch the PS3 game to a side story and move production of the main game to the Wii? That way they'd still utilize the White Engine and put the main franchise on a bigger install base. I wouldn't think they are that far along in development yet as to significantly shift resources, but I might be wrong on that.
What if SE decides to switch the PS3 game to a side story and move production of the main game to the Wii? That way they'd still utilize the White Engine and put the main franchise on a bigger install base. I wouldn't think they are that far along in development yet as to significantly shift resources, but I might be wrong on that.
You should get on the Moku train amirox, if you stay on the railroad the train will smash through your face and hurt you. A lot.Amir0x said:
Is HE back next week?Cheesemeister said:
YAY \o/Dragona Akehi said:
It's the weekly relative (in percentage of the total marketshare) marketshare chart for the most recent console gen.RaidenZR said:
Green is the 360's marketshare, blue is the Wii's and black is the PS3's.
Cheesemeister
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Blablurn said:
That's like walking up to someone who's bleeding and suggesting the wound be gouged open so as to make them bleed more profusely. It hasn't seemed to faze MS, though. Okay, I'm done.