The FFXIII for PS3 is just a rumor with no evidence at all. SE has remotely hinted at "non-exclusive" but still it could just end up on the 360 or PC.stewacide said:I've been on the FFXIII Wii train for at least ~2 months as well: since it became evident no game was going to salvage the PS3 in Japan this year. I eagerly anticipate the announcement, and I don't even like the games
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Kurosaki Ichigo
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wow, these threads sure have been swallowed into an ignorance spiral...time to add a new norm to MC threads...usual suspects stating FFXIII will be for Wii, every week and a few times each one.
titiklabingapat
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Kurosaki Ichigo said:
Nobody thought the PS3 would flop this hard, or flop at all, In Japan. So these kinds of lofty aspirations aint out of the question anymore. Everything is completely on the table unless they are announced for the Wii or actually released and playable on the PS3.
There is nothing to back up a baseless rumor around FF going to the Wii. Right now the only FF we'll see on the system is another Christal Chronicles. The PS3 didn't flop hard, yeah its got a bad start but FF and such can change this. Also you seem to forget that a 360 port is also possible.titiklabingapat said:
titiklabingapat
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[Nintex] said:
Nobody is claiming that there is a rumor. People are just speculating and hoping that it *might* jump to the Wii.
DeadyFernGarden
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I registered just to squeeze into the caboose!
Segata Sanshiro
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This I agree with.[Nintex] said:
This I somewhat agree with (Besides Crystal Chronicles I'm pretty sure we'll be seeing an FFXIII spinoff on the Wii, and who knows what else on other systems.)
It flopped about as hard as any could possibly have imagined in Japan, and in well...let's say about 3 months at current rates, the Wii's lead will be such that every single person who bought FFXII could go out and buy a PS3 and the Wii would still be ahead. They've lost Japan. It's over.
That said, there is also this. It's hard to deny this could happen...but will it? Stay tuned, true believers.
titiklabingapat
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Also, the Wii will reach 3 million consoles at around the same time, or even the same week, that the PS3 reaches its first million.
Kobun Heat
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Did you actually do the math on that? I'd like to steal this talking point and take it on the road, but I don't want to look like a jackass for stealing something false.Segata Sanshiro said:
Segata Sanshiro
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It was just off the top of my head, but I think FFXII did 1.8 million in Japan, and the Wii sells around 50k/week more than the PS3. In twelve weeks, the Wii's lead on the PS3 will be greater than 1.8 million, so yeah. Let me check that FFXII number first though before you take it on the road, Kobun. Twill take but a minute.Kobun Heat said:
edit: Okay, it was 2.3 million. 500k farther lead will take 10 more weeks, so instead of three months, five-and-a-half. At current sales rates of course.
Kobun Heat
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I prefer to think of it as particularly apt humor, myself.lupin23rd said:
Also: thanks, Segata. I'll round it off until "the end of the year" for safety's sake.
Segata Sanshiro
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Kobun Heat said:
Yeah, probably for the best. Gives you enough breathing room that you can say it comfortably.
FFXIII Wii isn't a rumour so much as a logical deduction.
At this pace by the time FFXIII is set to release the PS3 could a dead platform in Japan, and at the very best extremely marginal. Porting to the 360 does nothing to improve things in Japan if consumers continue to take a pass on both platforms.
If current trends hold - and with no 'killer apps' on the PS3 this year that seems probable - then either S-E writes Final Fantasy off as a leading property in Japan by releaseing only on PS3/360, or they do the blantantly obvious thing and move the project to Wii and make boat-loads of money / cement their leading position.
Given the importance of FF to S-E, and the kind of sales it needs to generate to cover the development and marketing costs of a game of that scale, gambling on a failing platform just doesn't seem in the cards.
At this pace by the time FFXIII is set to release the PS3 could a dead platform in Japan, and at the very best extremely marginal. Porting to the 360 does nothing to improve things in Japan if consumers continue to take a pass on both platforms.
If current trends hold - and with no 'killer apps' on the PS3 this year that seems probable - then either S-E writes Final Fantasy off as a leading property in Japan by releaseing only on PS3/360, or they do the blantantly obvious thing and move the project to Wii and make boat-loads of money / cement their leading position.
Given the importance of FF to S-E, and the kind of sales it needs to generate to cover the development and marketing costs of a game of that scale, gambling on a failing platform just doesn't seem in the cards.
Could someone do a comparisson of Wii first party vs. third party sales? I just want to put Nintendo's "success" into perspective .
I just find it hilarious that people think that a high-end next-gen system with:
Final Fantasy XIII, FFvXIII, DMC4, MGS4, Motorstorm, White Knight Story, LBP, Resistance, VF5, two Gundam games, Killzone, RE5, FFVII Remake, GTA4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Lair, Heavenly Sword, GT5, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Crysis, SingStar, plus Home and the best Blu-Ray player available
will be beaten by a barely last gen console with babyfied PSP ports and retard controls :lol .
.I just find it hilarious that people think that a high-end next-gen system with:
Final Fantasy XIII, FFvXIII, DMC4, MGS4, Motorstorm, White Knight Story, LBP, Resistance, VF5, two Gundam games, Killzone, RE5, FFVII Remake, GTA4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Lair, Heavenly Sword, GT5, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Crysis, SingStar, plus Home and the best Blu-Ray player available
will be beaten by a barely last gen console with babyfied PSP ports and retard controls :lol .
:lol :lol You won't last long here.malph said:Could someone do a comparisson of Wii first party vs. third party sales? I just want to put Nintendo's "success" into perspective
I just find it hilarious that people think that a high-end next-gen system with:
Final Fantasy XIII, FFvXIII, DMC4, MGS4, Motorstorm, White Knight Story, LBP, Resistance, VF5, two Gundam games, Killzone, RE5, FFVII Remake, GTA4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Lair, Heavenly Sword, GT5, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Crysis, SingStar, plus Home and the best Blu-Ray player available
will be beaten by a barely last gen console with babyfied PSP ports and retard controls :lol .
1. Wii outsold PS3 6-1 last week in Japan.
2. It's only getting worse.
3. PS3 was outsold by the GBA last month in U.S.
4. It's only getting worse.
5. None of the big titles are coming out until Q4, if that. And in Japan it's a wasteland for PS3 games.
I hope you like crow, Junior!
Segata Sanshiro
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997.malph said:Could someone do a comparisson of Wii first party vs. third party sales? I just want to put Nintendo's "success" into perspective
I just find it hilarious that people think that a high-end next-gen system with:
Final Fantasy XIII, FFvXIII, DMC4, MGS4, Motorstorm, White Knight Story, LBP, Resistance, VF5, two Gundam games, Killzone, RE5, FFVII Remake, GTA4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Lair, Heavenly Sword, GT5, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Crysis, SingStar, plus Home and the best Blu-Ray player available
will be beaten by a barely last gen console with babyfied PSP ports and retard controls :lol .
ShockingAlberto
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Someone didn't see the Junior thread.malph said:Could someone do a comparisson of Wii first party vs. third party sales? I just want to put Nintendo's "success" into perspective
I just find it hilarious that people think that a high-end next-gen system with:
Final Fantasy XIII, FFvXIII, DMC4, MGS4, Motorstorm, White Knight Story, LBP, Resistance, VF5, two Gundam games, Killzone, RE5, FFVII Remake, GTA4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Lair, Heavenly Sword, GT5, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Crysis, SingStar, plus Home and the best Blu-Ray player available
will be beaten by a barely last gen console with babyfied PSP ports and retard controls :lol .
malph said:Could someone do a comparisson of Wii first party vs. third party sales? I just want to put Nintendo's "success" into perspective
I just find it hilarious that people think that a high-end next-gen system with:
Final Fantasy XIII, FFvXIII, DMC4, MGS4, Motorstorm, White Knight Story, LBP, Resistance, VF5, two Gundam games, Killzone, RE5, FFVII Remake, GTA4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Lair, Heavenly Sword, GT5, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Crysis, SingStar, plus Home and the best Blu-Ray player available
will be beaten by a barely last gen console with babyfied PSP ports and retard controls :lol .
I highlighted everything that was applicable and PS3 is still getting its Cell processor handed to it. But you never know...maybe a couple of more months and things might change. I mean, that's the current SDF slogan right? Just wait a couple of more months for domination? :lol
Based upon this:ShockingAlberto said:
I'd say you're right. :lolmalph said:LOL! Why the **** is there a Pokemon thread here? Did I just step into the kiddie section? It's just that full grown adults playing a kids game makes them look like...um...
Let's just say that it makes them look like the type of people who are interested in getting the "attention" of young children.
All in my humble opinion, of course
DeathMonkey
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malph said:
Hope you enjoyed your stay, Jr.
Segata Sanshiro
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Juwanna Peezadis
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I see a ban stick in your future.malph said:Could someone do a comparisson of Wii first party vs. third party sales? I just want to put Nintendo's "success" into perspective
I just find it hilarious that people think that a high-end next-gen system with:
Final Fantasy XIII, FFvXIII, DMC4, MGS4, Motorstorm, White Knight Story, LBP, Resistance, VF5, two Gundam games, Killzone, RE5, FFVII Remake, GTA4, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, Lair, Heavenly Sword, GT5, Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, Crysis, SingStar, plus Home and the best Blu-Ray player available
will be beaten by a barely last gen console with babyfied PSP ports and retard controls :lol .
ShockingAlberto
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I wondered why he seemed familiar.Segata Sanshiro said:
Wyndstryker
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These threads leave walls of bodies behind...I think this week may need a few more mass graves
Juwanna Peezadis
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I must be psychic.Diablos54 said:
Ralph lasted longer iirc. He managed to make around 10 or 15 posts, all of them nintendo trolling. He got banned and unbanned very quickly (a few days) and then just managed to make a few more posts and we never saw him again.
Edit: sorry, just 9 posts total, I just saw Segata's link. I'm almost sure he got banned for 1 or 2 days somewhere in the middle of those 9 posts.
Edit: sorry, just 9 posts total, I just saw Segata's link. I'm almost sure he got banned for 1 or 2 days somewhere in the middle of those 9 posts.
O.k Someone here with enough reputation as a smart ass long time gaffer please do me a favor:
Open up a new thread with a topic like " Moku train: are you on board ? "
quote Moku's post where he expresses his belief that FFXIII will somehow appear on wii and lets see who is on board and who's not.
we can make it a prediction thread and see who was right and who was wrong.
why don't I open it? I am not as popular. It has to be someone like Wario or Kobun H and the likes so it can stay open.
Open up a new thread with a topic like " Moku train: are you on board ? "
quote Moku's post where he expresses his belief that FFXIII will somehow appear on wii and lets see who is on board and who's not.
we can make it a prediction thread and see who was right and who was wrong.
why don't I open it? I am not as popular. It has to be someone like Wario or Kobun H and the likes so it can stay open.
Thoughts on the Moku train..
1/ 360 port isn't going to happen, Japan is more important to S-E than any other territory & it would be way too damaging to the FF prestige to have it released on both 'failed' consoles.
2/ PS3 only hit the >20k mark two weeks ago right? Or sometime this month? Even if S-E are shitting themselves right now they wouldn't have had time to turn production around towards the Wii before the S-E May Party.
3/ Despite that I think a Wii shift could at least technically be possible, S-E could put the PS3 resources towards pre-rendered cinematics, go with a new battle system (no AC style OTT animation) & make a gorgeous looking game for Wii.
So my main reason for doubting the Moku train at the moment is that the extent of Sony's bomba in Japan has only become clear really recently, and S-E won't have had time to react yet. So I don't think we could expect any more from the May party than an announcement of a FFXIII spinoff for Wii without any media. Still, maybe S-E have done a better job of anticipating this than I'm giving them credit for.
1/ 360 port isn't going to happen, Japan is more important to S-E than any other territory & it would be way too damaging to the FF prestige to have it released on both 'failed' consoles.
2/ PS3 only hit the >20k mark two weeks ago right? Or sometime this month? Even if S-E are shitting themselves right now they wouldn't have had time to turn production around towards the Wii before the S-E May Party.
3/ Despite that I think a Wii shift could at least technically be possible, S-E could put the PS3 resources towards pre-rendered cinematics, go with a new battle system (no AC style OTT animation) & make a gorgeous looking game for Wii.
So my main reason for doubting the Moku train at the moment is that the extent of Sony's bomba in Japan has only become clear really recently, and S-E won't have had time to react yet. So I don't think we could expect any more from the May party than an announcement of a FFXIII spinoff for Wii without any media. Still, maybe S-E have done a better job of anticipating this than I'm giving them credit for.
Segata Sanshiro
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Want to do a neat experiment? Go and check up on (1) moku and (2) everyone who said they were on the moku train earlier. Then ask yourself if you reeeaaaaally want to do that.sphinx said:
Innotech said:
True enough. Sony zealots (as not all Sony fans are this way) have had quite the bitter pill to swallow for some time now. I still remember when many clung to GTA as their "wait for it" moment for the PSP. How many have we been through with the PS3? VF5? Gundam? (even though Musou did show some progress) And now what?
Kobun Heat
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They *might* release a game in the FFXIII series for Wii (certainly on DS), but moving FFXIII to Wii? No. If they decide that PS3 exclusivity isn't right, simply porting it to Xbox 360 will more than likely be enough to fix things.
WrathOfOtaibah
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I skipped all the pages but
Eleven ****ing thousand. Wow.
Eleven ****ing thousand. Wow.
Eteric Rice
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Avrum said:
What's even crazier as that the Wii is selling this well without it's big titles. What happens when Metroid, Smash Bros, and Mario drop? It's like people act as if these titles don't exist.
And personally (and I've said this before), I don't think the big three will be the ones to boost the Wii out of the atmosphere. My eye is on Wii Health, honestly.
Kobun Heat
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"Remember when we were doing ten thousand units per week? Per week."AniHawk said:
"Kaz, shut the **** up and stop hogging the garbage bag. It's starting to rain."