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Media Create Sales 4/9 - 4/15

farnham

Banned
AniHawk said:
It's too bad this is the last one.
obviously the last Phoenix wright was trials and tribulations

Gyakuten Saiban will go on beyond 4.. especially judging from its sales.. but phoenix wright will be discontinued.. probably he will make cameo apperances./
 

Link1110

Member
farnham said:
obviously the last Phoenix wright was trials and tribulations

Gyakuten Saiban will go on beyond 4.. especially judging from its sales.. but phoenix wright will be discontinued.. probably he will make cameo apperances./
His role in 4 is a bit more than a cameo. :D
 

jesusraz

Member
Looking back at the list of M-C numbers, it's pretty surprising to see both those new Digimon Story games doing far less than the first DS game...I really thought the new duo would be big hitters!

As for English Training, great to see it holding on in the Top 30. Will certainly be interesting to see how strong its follow-up does in the long-term.
 

vanguardian1

poor, homeless and tasteless
I think when our cheesy-man posted panther's analysis for him, he said he had about 5.5 days left. So we should see him sometime tomorrow night if he comes back right away.
 

Grampasso

Member
titiklabingapat said:
Methinks Nintendo fan population would be greatly diminished as the Wii ascends to the top in the coming months. A few well known ones have already seen bannination as a result of rubbing the fresh wounds with Nintendo approved salt. It's partly their fault. They haven't tasted victory in quite a while and kinda forgot how to deal with controlling their emotions. Lapsed was especially most intense when he was posting all those crow eating quotes. :lol

Was it this bad during the DS vs PSP saga?
Yeah, I think it's something like International FC winning the Italian Championship after 18 years since last time (it happened yesterday).
 
Grampasso said:
Yeah, I think it's something like International FC winning the Italian Championship after 18 years since last time (it happened yesterday).

it's easy to win when the stronger team finished in 2nd division and other teams got a penalization :p
 
Wiitard said:
Bannings of Lapsed and PatherLothus certainly weeded out two incorrigible trolls likes of which GAF has never seen.
Well, I don't know about PantherLotus, but Lapsed elevated trolling to an artform. He was like a Karate master in that respect - he didn't overwhelm with brute force but rather set things up so that his opponents could own themselves. And he tended to aim only at the more notorious anti-Nintendo trolls, especially the ones who had been particularly arrogant or untouchable in the past. The sheer amounts of ownage. It was beautiful to watch.

He was also well spoken, clear in his posts and employed proper spelling/grammar/paragraphing. If he was indeed a viral marketer, it makes me sad that a poster like Lapsed did not exist in real life.
 

Finn

Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
Week ending June 7, 1924.

DSL: 0
Wii: 0
PSP: 0
PS2: 0
PS3: 0
X360: 0
GBASP: 0
GBM: 0
GCN: 0
DS: 0
GBA: 0
Unsurprisingly though, sales of marbles and jump ropes are on the rise. Seeing as you didn't mention these though Josh, I'm sensing a bias. Fanboy!
 

Wiitard

Banned
vicious_killer_squirrel said:
Well, I don't know about PantherLotus, but Lapsed elevated trolling to an artform. He was like a Karate master in that respect - he didn't overwhelm with brute force but rather set things up so that his opponents could own themselves. And he tended to aim only at the more notorious anti-Nintendo trolls, especially the ones who had been particularly arrogant or untouchable in the past. The sheer amounts of ownage. It was beautiful to watch.

He was also well spoken, clear in his posts and employed proper spelling/grammar/paragraphing. If he was indeed a viral marketer, it makes me sad that a poster like Lapsed did not exist in real life.

I remember lurking in those days...

So was there a single prediction by Lapsed that did not turn out true?
 

AniHawk

Member
Finn said:
Unsurprisingly though, sales of marbles and jump ropes are on the rise. Seeing as you didn't mention these though Josh, I'm sensing a bias. Fanboy!
Nintendo Koppai's hanafuda playing card sales are doing pretty well though. Fusajiro Yamauchi is a genius.
 

andthebeatgoeson

Junior Member
Wiitard said:
I remember lurking in those days...

So was there a single prediction by Lapsed that did not turn out true?
Those days? That was like six weeks ago. Call me when we change to a new board and they bring back signatures.

'Skinny people on the rise'
 

Ikael

Member
About the Wii's sucessor (wow, it is quite early to talk about it, isn't it?) I really think that it will go far beyond mere technical update or "Wii HD". They will try to risrupt the market againg because leading position or not, is the only tactic that can work against their competitors. Microsoft can replicate the wiimote, puts high specs and sell the Xbox720 at a lower price than Nintendo's next gen console (keep in mind that Microsoft will produce all the hardware, and that this will cheapen the costs for them A LOT). So I expect Wii 2 to include the wiimote and another crazy thing in the same vein, probably related to augmented reality or something similar.

About Lapsed
I really don't think that Lapsed was a viral marketing of anything besides Blue ocean strategy :p damn he was reiterative.

Still, I really don't know if what he done was exactly trolling, even if it was irritating (for some) and if in the end his conversation topics grew old.

However, seeing how much time he gets quoted in GAF after his banning kinda prooves how ideas are ban-proof.
 
Ikael said:
About the Wii's sucessor (wow, it is quite early to talk about it, isn't it?) I really think that it will go far beyond mere technical update or "Wii HD". They will try to risrupt the market againg because leading position or not, is the only tactic that can work against their competitors. Microsoft can replicate the wiimote, puts high specs and sell the Xbox720 at a lower price than Nintendo's next gen console (keep in mind that Microsoft will produce all the hardware, and that this will cheapen the costs for them A LOT). So I expect Wii 2 to include the wiimote and another crazy thing in the same vein, probably related to augmented reality or something similar.

Seriously? I'm not sure why Nintendo would need to disrupt the market if they end up on top. If they just use cheap technology and maintain what they have, I don't think anything MS or Sony could make would harm Nintendo. Likewise, had the PS3 been a cheap console like the PS2, Sony never would have encountered any trouble due to the built up developer support. Further, I'm not sure if Nintendo ever created anything "crazy" with the Wiimote. It might be different to us but to casuals, it appears to make more sense than the traditional. Whatever Nintendo creates in the future will embrace the casuals further. I'm not sure if a clunky augmented reality system would do that.
 

Durante

Member
Moor-Angol said:
it's easy to win when the stronger team finished in 2nd division and other teams got a penalization :p
For a moment I thought you were talking about Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft. In Japan.
 

Saitou

Banned
Ikael said:
I really don't think that Lapsed was a viral marketing of anything besides Blue ocean strategy :p damn he was reiterative.

Still, I really don't know if what he done was exactly trolling, even if it was irritating (for some) and if in the end his conversation topics grew old.

However, seeing how much time he gets quoted in GAF after his banning kinda prooves how ideas are ban-proof.
V4VendettaIdea2.jpg
 

Bebpo

Banned
cvxfreak said:
PS2 Persona 3 Fes - 65.000 (6:4 append vs normal, both very good sell through)

Wow, to quote yourself, Holy ****ing crap. The cheap "we put 6 guys on this for 3 months" add-on is likely to sell almost as many copies as the original game at almost the same price.

Megaten bank of monies confirmed. Yay!
 
Rancid Mildew said:
Seriously? I'm not sure why Nintendo would need to disrupt the market if they end up on top. If they just use cheap technology and maintain what they have, I don't think anything MS or Sony could make would harm Nintendo. Likewise, had the PS3 been a cheap console like the PS2, Sony never would have encountered any trouble due to the built up developer support. Further, I'm not sure if Nintendo ever created anything "crazy" with the Wiimote. It might be different to us but to casuals, it appears to make more sense than the traditional. Whatever Nintendo creates in the future will embrace the casuals further. I'm not sure if a clunky augmented reality system would do that.

He's right though, MS and Sony will most likely end up copying Nintendo next gen if the Wii become s market leader(very likely). The DS is a good example of Nintendo disrupting their own strategies to keep competitors on their toes.

Just throwing it out there, but I could see Nintendo splitting the marketplace by announcing two consoles, Wii CS for the casual/non-game/mainstream audience with specs just good enough, but very, very cheap and Wii HD for bleeding edge, hardcore oriented gaming with integrated online and multimedia capabilities. This effecti8vely cuts off both Microsoft and Sony if they focus on the mainstream since Nintendo already has a grip on that. This is assuming that the Wii is a runaway success, giving Nintendo tons of cash reserves for a more risky endeavor.
 

Saitou

Banned
titiklabingapat said:
Just throwing it out there, but I could see Nintendo splitting the marketplace by announcing two consoles, Wii CS for the casual/non-game/mainstream audience with specs just good enough, but very, very cheap and Wii HD for bleeding edge, hardcore oriented with integrated online and multimedia capabilities.
That will be next gen.

Wii would be rereleased, a la Wii Lite if you will. Cheaper. The 'next gen' part would be a souped up Wii (four Gamecubes instead of the streamlined two) with 720p output and full backwards compatibility.
 
titiklabingapat said:
Just throwing it out there, but I could see Nintendo splitting the marketplace by announcing two consoles...
I don't. Segmenting the market runs contrary to the whole philosophy of the Blue Ocean strategy and to market disruption. Segmenting the marketplace and going after niches is what companies generally tend to do in response to a saturated market. Blue Ocean tells us to increase the size of the market when this happens. Otherwise, this process ends in a glut of competing and increasingly specialised products fishing the same consumers over and over resulting in price wars and shrinking margins. Companies should say: "DO NOT WANT" to this situation.

No, no, no. They're after the mass market. Thus, I predict that they will keep the current "one hardware configuration fits all" philosophy and go after specialisation by releasing different colours. Just like the car industry. Do you really want me to go all Blue Ocean on you again?
 
vicious_killer_squirrel said:
I don't. Segmenting the market runs contrary to the whole philosophy of the Blue Ocean strategy and to market disruption. Segmenting the marketplace and going after niches is what companies generally tend to do in response to a saturated market. Blue Ocean tells us to increase the size of the market when this happens. Otherwise, this process ends in a glut of competing and increasingly specialised products fishing the same consumers over and over resulting in price wars and shrinking margins. Companies should say: "DO NOT WANT" to this situation.

No, no, no. They're after the mass market. Thus, I predict that they will keep the current "one hardware configuration fits all" philosophy and go after specialisation by releasing different colours. Just like the car industry. Do you really want me to go all Blue Ocean on you again?


Yeah, I agree with you that it is the most unlikely thing. It's also the same reason why I see Nintendo going for that. It is the most unexpected.

If the Wii gives them gluts, and glut and gluts of cash, I can really see them splurging anhd maximizing profits by giving hardcore gamers(because they still buy a disproportionate number of software and don't mind paying top dollars for hardware) what they want, while keeping the mainstream market going with the other console. Of course, I'm just speculating.
 

Innotech

Banned
lets just say if the next nintendo system is a choice between HD and SD, then yes Id probably finally opt for HD. But only if TVs/players are sufficiently cheap by then. And only if it were guaranteed that the games wouldnt all be going down the ultrarealistic route.
 

felipeko

Member
Wiitard said:
I remember lurking in those days...

So was there a single prediction by Lapsed that did not turn out true?
Yes, i remember one of my first post here on gaf (right when he was banned)..
He said Gears of War would not be a sucess...
But he was right about everything else (even me, a lapsed player coming here)

But no worries, i know he is here in some form... :)
 

Wiitard

Banned
felipeko said:
Yes, i remember one of my first post here on gaf (right when he was banned)..
He said Gears of War would not be a sucess...
But he was right about everything else (even me, a lapsed player coming here)

But no worries, i know he is here in some form... :)

Really? In an important sense it was a failure, relative to prior expectations. It was supposed to be the game that made the masses care about HD. Or at least IF there would be a game this gen to make mainstream really care about HD that was it. That definitely did not seem to have happened.
 
titiklabingapat said:
He's right though, MS and Sony will most likely end up copying Nintendo next gen if the Wii become s market leader(very likely). The DS is a good example of Nintendo disrupting their own strategies to keep competitors on their toes.

Just throwing it out there, but I could see Nintendo splitting the marketplace by announcing two consoles, Wii CS for the casual/non-game/mainstream audience with specs just good enough, but very, very cheap and Wii HD for bleeding edge, hardcore oriented gaming with integrated online and multimedia capabilities. This effecti8vely cuts off both Microsoft and Sony if they focus on the mainstream since Nintendo already has a grip on that. This is assuming that the Wii is a runaway success, giving Nintendo tons of cash reserves for a more risky endeavor.

Of course Nintendo will be copied. I'm not challenging that. I'm just wondering why they would bother disrupting the market again after possibly achieving market dominance. It makes no sense. If Nintendo wins, which is very likely, the Wii2 will probably be nothing earth shattering. I just see a Wii with maybe two cores and 720p support if we happen to be lucky.

I don't see Nintendo doing anything more risky than the Wiimote for the forseeable future. And if risks are to be taken, it won't be to capture the core gamer. Any Nintendo efforts will be meant to reconcile the casual and the hardcore at the expense of the hardcore.
 

RurouniZel

Asks questions so Ezalc doesn't have to
Even if it's difficult to make the games, the Wii is so popular in Japan that they'll just have to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOcGoa6dK30

I've uploaded a video to demonstrate it's popularlity. This is from a game show/preview type show where celebrities and stars from new TV shows come to compete and promote their shows. This was one of the games they played. ^^
 
Well, I don't think it's that big of an issue. I think the issue is that they can't find creative and feasible ways of using the Wii controller's unique aspects but the set up is perfectly suited for a traditional control scheme in my opinion.
 
I'm just glad that SE is actually trying though with DQS. They could have just settled for a traditional SE rpg, just using the pointer functionality and leave it at that.

It was a partially tongue in cheek post, especially with the "uh oh" part. I don't really think it's a big issue either, it just worried me a bit that it might take longer than expected to see SE Wii games released.
 

donny2112

Member
AniHawk said:
Nintendo Koppai's hanafuda playing card sales are doing pretty well though. Fusajiro Yamauchi is a genius.

:lol

I was just about to post about Nintendo's Hanafuda cards probably ruling the market back in 1924.

titiklabingapat said:
Wii CS for the casual/non-game/mainstream audience with specs just good enough, but very, very cheap and Wii HD for bleeding edge, hardcore oriented gaming with integrated online and multimedia capabilities.

I've seen this strategy before. Hmmm, where was it? Oh, yeah! The PSOne when the PS2 came out. ;)

Wii CS = Wii
Wii HD = Wii 2
 

Wiitard

Banned
titiklabingapat said:
I'm just glad that SE is actually trying though with DQS. They could have just settled for a traditional SE rpg, just using the pointer functionality and leave it at that.

It was a partially tongue in cheek post, especially with the "uh oh" part. I don't really think it's a big issue either, it just worried me a bit that it might take longer than expected to see SE Wii games released.

What might have happened is something along the lines of: before we saw the sales, we were making a crappy little title. Once the sales come in, we had to reconsider.
 

Mar

Member
titiklabingapat said:
I know :lol

It's embarrassing. All that pent up energy while lurking, wishing I could post.

Weren't you a junior just a day ago or something? Did you break a posting record?
 

Terrell

Member
IGN said:
As for other Nintendo-based Final Fantasy product, the magazine began by asking about possible Virtual Console downloads for the series. Things look bleak, at least in Japan. "We feel that the Japanese game market still requires media," explained Hashimoto. "Also, FF and Dragon Quest are played by a wide range of users, from children to adults, so there are limitations when you consider the problems that we would have with billing systems."

W. T. F.
 
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