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Media Create Sales: Aug 24-30, 2009
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I really don't see any bombs there in the 1st day numbers. LKS was never going to sell well anywhere, but yeah, it's still low. Level 5's game isn't front loaded; 428, like Imabikisou before it is not front loaded either (20k first week and 70k total). In fact, the PS3 version of Imabikisou has outsold the Wii version of 428.. Sega launched it on the wrong console last year and Spike is trying to fix that. I think king zell is confusing Love Plus with Dream Club as the latter had probably one of the biggest marketing campaigns this year and did not have the sales to show for it. But it still sold enough for what it's worth. Way of the Samurai 2 Portable is a port of a 6 year old game and Tabemon? Never heard of it.onken said:
Just so you are clear, Gundam Musou is not related to Gundam Senki other than having Gundams in it.
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
[PS3] Kidou Senshi Gundam Senki (Bandai Namco) - 104k
104k for Target in Sight is 103k more than it deserved (with a 1k error range).
Really, its a brutal first day. The other Gundam data posted is PS3 specific. Target in Sight 2 doing like Musou titles is really mind blowing. In a normal case, the awful word of mouth from the first one, the fact that despite being a launch title it just did 150k, and the resemblance of the second one to the first title would have hurt it badly. But its not a normal case since its launching alongside the slim, and it shows. It could outsell Target in Sight LTD in its first week.
[NDS] Love Plus (Konami) - 22k
There's two Tokimeki Memorial DS titles from Konami too that sinobi uses to compare:
TM Girls Side 1st love - 11k
TM Girls Side 2nd season - 21k
Those are girl-oriented and from an established IP though, although Love Plus looked like a bigger project too.
[NDS] Sloane to MacHale no Nazo no Monogatari 2 (Level 5) - 11k
Now this one could be seen as a disappointment.
The original did 19k first day, went on to sell 59k first week (look out for weekend growth) and 165k LTD. New IP and all that. Sequel doing 11k first day is a bit poor, but it could also have good legs (it needs even better ones to close the gap with the first).
[PS3] 428: Fuusa Sareta Shibuya de (Spike) - 9.2k
Sinobi compares it with Imabikisou and 428:
PS3 Imabikisou - 16k
WII Imabikisou - 2k
WII 428 - 27k
428 on PS3 has done better than the Wii port of Imabikisou, and there's two things to note. Its from a lesser publisher (Spike instead of Sega) and there's a PSP port coming in two weeks.
[WII] Little King's Story (Ousama Monogatari) (Marvelous Entertainment) - 5.9k
Ok, there's nothing to note from this one (neither from me nor from sinobi).
[PSP] Samurai Dou 2 Portable (Spike) - 5.4k
The first one PSP port did 7k first day.
[WII] Tabemon (Bandai Namco) - Uncountable
The lost the count! Oh man this has been flying indeed! :lol
104k for Target in Sight is 103k more than it deserved (with a 1k error range).
Really, its a brutal first day. The other Gundam data posted is PS3 specific. Target in Sight 2 doing like Musou titles is really mind blowing. In a normal case, the awful word of mouth from the first one, the fact that despite being a launch title it just did 150k, and the resemblance of the second one to the first title would have hurt it badly. But its not a normal case since its launching alongside the slim, and it shows. It could outsell Target in Sight LTD in its first week.
[NDS] Love Plus (Konami) - 22k
There's two Tokimeki Memorial DS titles from Konami too that sinobi uses to compare:
TM Girls Side 1st love - 11k
TM Girls Side 2nd season - 21k
Those are girl-oriented and from an established IP though, although Love Plus looked like a bigger project too.
[NDS] Sloane to MacHale no Nazo no Monogatari 2 (Level 5) - 11k
Now this one could be seen as a disappointment.
The original did 19k first day, went on to sell 59k first week (look out for weekend growth) and 165k LTD. New IP and all that. Sequel doing 11k first day is a bit poor, but it could also have good legs (it needs even better ones to close the gap with the first).
[PS3] 428: Fuusa Sareta Shibuya de (Spike) - 9.2k
Sinobi compares it with Imabikisou and 428:
PS3 Imabikisou - 16k
WII Imabikisou - 2k
WII 428 - 27k
428 on PS3 has done better than the Wii port of Imabikisou, and there's two things to note. Its from a lesser publisher (Spike instead of Sega) and there's a PSP port coming in two weeks.
[WII] Little King's Story (Ousama Monogatari) (Marvelous Entertainment) - 5.9k
Ok, there's nothing to note from this one (neither from me nor from sinobi).
[PSP] Samurai Dou 2 Portable (Spike) - 5.4k
The first one PSP port did 7k first day.
[WII] Tabemon (Bandai Namco) - Uncountable
The lost the count! Oh man this has been flying indeed! :lol
JoshuaJSlone
Member
So, mysterious Garaph issue. You may have noticed over the past day or so that images posted on the forums or even on Garaph's game pages show Not The Right Thing. Without getting too technical, it has to do with the process whereby an URL full of question marks and ampersands is converted to a version using just slashes and back, which allows forum software to properly display things without freaking out. Well... for some reason it's not converting things back right now, so when it tries to show an image like http://garaph.info/linecomparegamejp.php//gid-0/2105, it just uses the default for linecomparegamejp.php and is treating the rest like nothing.
I'm not sure what the problem is--I've changed nothing on my end, and the necessary pieces still seem to be in place. Hopefully it's one of those things that will fix itself, but if not I'll be gone for the weekend so I won't be tinkering with it or pestering support at my host. Additionally, since all the normal links I use for even the weekly text-based stuff I show here uses the link format it's not properly converting, I can't follow those links right now to give the standard weekly update. Rest assured, at this week's rates if Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up when we are all dead. Or are the world's oldest men preparing to attend the DS's hundredth birthday party.
As a litmus test, here's an image that's supposed to display Dynasty Warriors 5's sales. If it starts showing correctly, it's gone back to working properly. If it's still showing Game ID 1 (Agarest Senki), it's still being stupid.
I'm not sure what the problem is--I've changed nothing on my end, and the necessary pieces still seem to be in place. Hopefully it's one of those things that will fix itself, but if not I'll be gone for the weekend so I won't be tinkering with it or pestering support at my host. Additionally, since all the normal links I use for even the weekly text-based stuff I show here uses the link format it's not properly converting, I can't follow those links right now to give the standard weekly update. Rest assured, at this week's rates if Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up when we are all dead. Or are the world's oldest men preparing to attend the DS's hundredth birthday party.
As a litmus test, here's an image that's supposed to display Dynasty Warriors 5's sales. If it starts showing correctly, it's gone back to working properly. If it's still showing Game ID 1 (Agarest Senki), it's still being stupid.
GCX said:
I dunno if you keep doing this on purpose or I am out of the trendy spelling loop, but it's "bump".
Also, it disturbs me that there are still 1,000 customers buying a big fat expensive PS3 with the Slim's launch being imminent. Lack of knowledge? Sony must've advertised that thing to hell and back.
And poor Little King's Story! What a tremendous bomb everywhere. ;_;
It was one of them, for the Xbox 360 certainly. Ads everywhere, even all over the dashboard and xbox.com. Months before the release there was enough ads everywhere you'd think the game was coming out the next week.Jonnyram said:
I think it's just the completely uniformed... not everyone will get the message and stores will never try to stop a sale.cvxfreak said:
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Since I usually snag game titles from donny2112's list, if he hasn't made his Famitsu post I'll grab them from the previous MC post, so when things seem out of position it sticks out. I thought something was wrong when for the week starting August 17 I couldn't find the game Famitsu had at #30. I found it--but Media Create had it debuting at #47.
jesusraz
Member
Media Create hardware stuff:
System - This Week | Last Week | 2009 Sales | Lifetime Sales
1.) Nintendo DS (all models) - 67,185 | 65,313 | 2,431,324 | 27,550,959
2.) PlayStation Portable (all models) - 26,081 | 27,187 | 1,435,849 | 12,793,952
3.) Wii - 25,038 | 26,972 | 956,322 | 8,435,299
4.) Xbox 360 - 7,254 | 8,979 | 279,407 | 1,108,844
5.) PlayStation 2 - 3,179 | 3,295 | 165,957 | 21,565,486
6.) PlayStation 3 - 1,040 | 2,052 | 652,481 | 3,274,949
XX.) Nintendo DSi - 59,881 | 59,578 | 2,057,205 | 3,288,564
XX.) Nintendo DS Lite - 7,304 | 5,735 | 374,119 | 17,676,924
DSi passes two million for the year!
System - This Week | Last Week | 2009 Sales | Lifetime Sales
1.) Nintendo DS (all models) - 67,185 | 65,313 | 2,431,324 | 27,550,959
2.) PlayStation Portable (all models) - 26,081 | 27,187 | 1,435,849 | 12,793,952
3.) Wii - 25,038 | 26,972 | 956,322 | 8,435,299
4.) Xbox 360 - 7,254 | 8,979 | 279,407 | 1,108,844
5.) PlayStation 2 - 3,179 | 3,295 | 165,957 | 21,565,486
6.) PlayStation 3 - 1,040 | 2,052 | 652,481 | 3,274,949
XX.) Nintendo DSi - 59,881 | 59,578 | 2,057,205 | 3,288,564
XX.) Nintendo DS Lite - 7,304 | 5,735 | 374,119 | 17,676,924
DSi passes two million for the year!
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Textual Famitsu Software Stuff
Wii __ updates. Wii Sports Resort passes 1 million, and Wii Fit passes 3.5 million. Wii Fit now only has 20K to go to pass the most recent Famitsu number for Wii Sports, but since that number is a few months old by new it will really be a little longer before Wii Fit becomes the top Wii __ game in Japan. Certainly by the end of the year, though.
Though these games don't make for very obvious comparison beyond both hanging around the charts for years, Wii Fit has also recently passed up Mario Kart DS. MKDS won't reach 3.5 million for another 2 or 3 weeks.
In its seventh week Dragon Quest IX returns to #1, and has now passed the combined total of Dragon Quest VIII and its Best rerelease. This makes it the top third-party game across the systems properly covered by Garaph. It still has a ways to go to pass Dragon Quest VII, but at this point it's significantly outpacing that game and there's little doubt it will happen.
Wii __ updates. Wii Sports Resort passes 1 million, and Wii Fit passes 3.5 million. Wii Fit now only has 20K to go to pass the most recent Famitsu number for Wii Sports, but since that number is a few months old by new it will really be a little longer before Wii Fit becomes the top Wii __ game in Japan. Certainly by the end of the year, though.
Though these games don't make for very obvious comparison beyond both hanging around the charts for years, Wii Fit has also recently passed up Mario Kart DS. MKDS won't reach 3.5 million for another 2 or 3 weeks.
In its seventh week Dragon Quest IX returns to #1, and has now passed the combined total of Dragon Quest VIII and its Best rerelease. This makes it the top third-party game across the systems properly covered by Garaph. It still has a ways to go to pass Dragon Quest VII, but at this point it's significantly outpacing that game and there's little doubt it will happen.
Cosmonaut X
Member
bttb said:
Jeez - just a 21k shipment?
Cirekiller
Member
Sumthing like 1,040.Loudninja said:
But seriously, didn't Sony stop shipping to Japanese retail like weeks if not months ago, if so there probably aren't that many more out there. Sony's not taking not taking too much of a hit cause they already phased out the old models, and people who are holding off on getting a PS3 will get it next week (obviously).
onken said:
And, at least in my town, (and the cities my friends live in) The PS3 is far from "sold out". A few Tokyo shops might not have any more but go to any department store and you will have no problem buying one.
I really wonder what they are going to do with all of those now....
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Does anybody know what Marvelous' worldwide targets for LKS were? I'm sure it was posted in tone of these threads...
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Cosmonaut X said:
And yet it looks like that was an aggressive shipment relative to demand.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Stumpokapow said:
I may be mixing trackers, but:
Arc Rise Fantasia - 18k FD / 26k FW
Muramasa - 16k FD / 29k FW
No More Heroes - 10k FD / 20k FW
...so assuming we see a similar pattern, maybe a FW of around 12k? The rest of the shipment will go, but it's sad to see a game flop like that.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Oxx said:
So they were looking for 300k worldwide. And the NPD thread reported, what, 12k or 13k or something first month in the US. Best of luck, Little King!
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Wow @ Tomodachi Collection. Do we know yet if there's any chance Nintendo will bring it over here? I'd really like to see what all the buzz is about.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Seraphis Cain said:
Reggie's Mii was in the initial promo shots. That's confirmation enough for me
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
@^@Jonnyram said:
Brofist
Member
Seraphis Cain said:
Here are the commercials, judge for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKMbf9f80-w
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVkLK22xMLU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1ENjoLgiVM
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Cosmonaut X said:
Is Marvelous in any financial trouble? Seems like none of their bets are really paying off... such a shame, they are trying so hard
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
John Harker said:
Is Marvelous in any financial trouble? Seems like none of their bets are really paying off... such a shame, they are trying so hard
They've been losing money, but they're a small enough company that the losses have been single-digit millions and their non-gaming divisions have been losing money too IIRC so their gaming losses are pretty tiny.
Cosmonaut X
Member
Fady K said:
I would say its a combination of poor/non-existent marketing (no features in Famitsu or other mags recently AFAIK, apparently no TV ads or any kind of promo push beyond a fairly low-key launch event), publisher wariness of sending huge shipments out and retailer reticence to invest in larger shipments and the fact that the game is pretty niche in the first place. Id still expected better than 5-6k on its first day, but there you go.
Cosmonaut X said:
Sorry, but the quoted is complete BS. Why would a publisher be wary to send out large shipments? They send out what retailers order. It's not because the publisher is wary. It's because the retailers don't want to order a non-name IP.
publishers should be happy as can be the higher the shipments number are. There is no such thing as "publisher's wariness of sending huge shipments."
They make money on sales to retailers, not sales to consumers.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
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Cosmonaut X
Member
Tideas said:
Fair point.
test_account
XP-39C²
Before the DS Lite was released, the interest/popularity of the DS was on a rise though, so it might have been that the DS would have sold really well in the same time period even if the DS Lite wasnt released, if you know what i mean. Before the PS3 Slim was launched, the PS3 interest/popularity wasnt really that high, and the PS3 popularity might even have declined a bit over the last few months as well. So i dont think it could be expected too much that the PS3 Slim launch would be almost, or just as big as the DS Lite launch thoughviciouskillersquirrel said:
But maybe you mentioned the DS Lite launch just to put things a bit in perspective?I am sorry for quoting your same quote 2 times, but i forgot to write this earlier when i quoted you on the same thing.
Wow, is there still possible to buy new PS3 consoles with PS3 BC in Japan (eventhough that they are hard to find)?cvxfreak said:
Ye, that might be why indeed. I wonder if some stores maybe had dropped the price on the PS3 Phat with maybe like 5000 yen (about 50 US dollars) or so, and maybe someone bought a PS3 because of this? But unfortunately i dont know, i am just guessingkay said:
By the way, does anyone here know if any stores at all had dropped the price on the PS3 Phat before the PS3 Slim was released? And now that the PS3 Slim is released, what is the price for the PS3 Phat, is it still about 39,990 yen?