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Iwata: *Nervous laughter*

Hehe

The people who originally went out and bought a PS3 were more than happy to get that second job to afford it, so none of us should be surprised to know they're all doing it again with the Slim.

I dont know, the PS3 was rather expencive when it first came out, so maybe that the people who got a 2nd job to buy a PS3 are still working at this job to pay for the PS3 (unless they had a second job that payed really well), so maybe they need to get a third job to get a PS3 Slim? Hehe nah, just kidding, the PS3 wasnt THAT expencive that they needed a 2nd job for several of months or even years to be able to buy a PS3 because it was really expencive, at least in my opinion But i could see that someone might have gotten a 2nd job for a few months or so to be able to buy a PS3.

But seriously, i guess that you are only joking, but i could see that several of people who bought a PS3 Slim last week actually already owns a PS3 Fat. I dont know if they need a 2nd job to afford a PS3 Slim though since the PS3 Slim is only about $50 more expencive that for example a Wii. I think that it should be interesting to know how many of the current PS3 Slim buyers (not only those who bought a PS3 Slim last week, but for all the people who are buying a PS3 Slim in the upcoming weeks, months and years) who already own a PS3 Fat. I guess that we will never know this for sure :\

Of course then there was this guy;

http://kotaku.com/5352317/who-is-this-ps3-slim-shopper-who

Never can have too many right. haha

Lol, i wonder why that guy bought so many PS3 Slim consoles Maybe he picked some consoles for some friends who were at school and/or working?

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

One would think that if publishers were so terrified to launch anything 2 days before Pokemon GS hits, they would also hesitate a bit before launching something just 5 days later. Then you remember:
PS3 Tales of Vesperia
NDS Saga 2
PSP Pawapuro Portable 4
PSP Yugioh Tag Force 4
NDS Idolmaster DS
PSP Ys 7
PSP 428
WII Forever Blue 2
PS3 Tears to Tiara 2
WII House of the Dead Overkill
PSP Hitman Battle Arena 2
PS3 Disgaea 3 Append Disc
..etc etc

Terrified, aren't they...

So who is with me that TOV does >200k for the week? guys?

Spoiler

guys!?

 

[schuelma]

So who is with me that TOV does >200k for the week? guys?

Spoiler

guys!?

Hmm....I'll say yes.

 

[Sage00]

So who is with me that TOV does >200k for the week? guys?

Spoiler

guys!?

I'm thinking >120k first day, but then again I am insane.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

New Slim launch, tighter ads, bikinia clad girls, I say it does at least what the 360 did. Didn't 360 sales include bundles though? No PS3 Vesperia pack?!!?!?!?

 

[AranhaHunter]

So who is with me that TOV does >200k for the week? guys?

Spoiler

guys!?

Am I the only one that expects Vesperia to follow Trusty Bell's path? Basically not outsell the 360 version 1st week or LTD?

 

[schuelma]

Am I the only one that expects Vesperia to follow Trusty Bell's path? Basically not outsell the 360 version 1st week or LTD?

I think it is going to do significantly better.

 

[AranhaHunter]

I think it is going to do significantly better.

What makes you say that?

 

[shinshero]

One would think that if publishers were so terrified to launch anything 2 days before Pokemon GS hits, they would also hesitate a bit before launching something just 5 days later. Then you remember:
PS3 Tales of Vesperia
NDS Saga 2
PSP Pawapuro Portable 4
PSP Yugioh Tag Force 4
NDS Idolmaster DS
PSP Ys 7
PSP 428
WII Forever Blue 2
PS3 Tears to Tiara 2
WII House of the Dead Overkill
PSP Hitman Battle Arena 2
PS3 Disgaea 3 Append Disc
..etc etc

Terrified, aren't they...

So who is with me that TOV does >200k for the week? guys?

Spoiler

guys!?

Is this an original game for PS3. Hmm...

 

[LiquidMetal14]

What makes you say that?

HW install bases, better game, bundle? (someone answer this), and new Slim momentum. The new content may help a little but this definitely being on PS3 is gonna boost sales.

 

[schuelma]

What makes you say that?

There seems to be a lot of buzz, improvements, much bigger install base, increased retail presence because of the slim.

 

[kay]

The reason a lot is on the 17th is because having TGS the week after means you shouldn't be launching a game then and you want it out before so it has a better chance of not getting lost in the hype from the show. Since things usually hit at the end of the month, it is the last Thursday in September as well.

There's almost no question about Tales hitting 200k first week and probably over 300k total.

Is this an original game for PS3. Hmm...

It is but it isn't "2", it's a spinoff of sorts.

 

[Liabe Brave]

Especially if the technical gap continues to decrease.

Just wait until consoles become a 10 million unit (or lower) niche next generation.

I already pointed out in this thread that the three home consoles this gen have sold pretty much exactly as much hardware as the three consoles last gen had by this same point. The home market is not contracting in Japan, at least not yet.

As I said, it's not that I don't believe portables will become a larger segment; it's that I don't think home systems will decline, just be outpaced.

 

[Chris1964]

First of all I want to say that I completely agree with dathien about the status of Japanese market. PSP gets a lot of praise and WII a lot of hate when actually both of them are at a mediocre status.

Every system generation in Japan has a clear winner with distant seconds. This was and is the situation. Even GBA at his shiny days couldn't touch Playstation 2.

This is happening in the present. One clear winner (DS) with the rest following. Japan isn't shifting to handhelds, at least not as many mean it. It is shifting to the winning system which happens to be a handheld.

Putting PSP to the same league with DS is at least laughable when the biggest market share it had was 15%, in a year it achieved the biggest hardware sales until then (and probably won't pass that number again).

PSP in 2009 until now follows the same pattern, with the difference that every other system (besides 360) has big hits coming but PSP not. So, and this year is one of the same.

I tried to make the following list as readable as I could, I hope everyone understands the way data are arranged.

And please don't bump again the old thread. It's very annoying and tiring.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
|     Famitsu 2000 top 300       ||     Famitsu 2001 top 300       |
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|   SYSTEM    |    YTD   | RATIO ||   SYSTEM    |    YTD   | RATIO |
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|Playstation  |12.143.912| 29,75%||Playstation 2|17.116.286| 42,26%|
|Game Boy     |10.997.369| 26,94%||Playstation  | 6.993.148| 17,27%|
|Playstation 2|	6.686.527| 16,38%||Game Boy     | 6.442.826| 15,91%|
|Nintendo 64  |	6.376.505| 15,62%||Game Boy Adv.| 4.196.118| 10,36%|
|Dreamcast    |	3.631.756|  8,90%||Gamecube     | 1.757.695|  4,34%|
|WonderSwan   |	  934.838|  2,29%||Dreamcast    | 1.741.338|  4,30%|
|NeoGeo Pocket|	   44.992|  0,11%||Nintendo 64  | 1.578.928|  3,90%|
|             |          |       ||WonderSwan   |   678.233|  1,67%|
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|handhelds    |11.977.199| 29,34%||handhelds    |11.317.177| 27,94%|
|consoles     |28.838.700| 70,66%||consoles     |29.187.395| 72,06%|
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|Total sales  |40.815.899|100,00%||Total sales  |40.504.572|100,00%|
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|     Famitsu 2002 top 300       ||     Famitsu 2003 top 300       |
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|   SYSTEM    |    YTD   | RATIO ||   SYSTEM    |    YTD   | RATIO |
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|Playstation 2|23.913.950| 52,95%||Playstation 2|27.326.265| 59,09%|
|Game Boy Adv.|10.717.111| 23,73%||Game Boy Adv.|11.753.494| 25,41%|
|Gamecube     | 4.984.730| 11,04%||Gamecube     | 6.386.559| 13,81%|
|Playstation  |	4.072.745|  9,02%||Playstation  |   614.678|  1,33%|
|Game Boy     |	  795.343|  1,76%||Xbox         |   166.143|  0,36%|
|Dreamcast    |	  372.548|  0,82%||             |          |       |
|WonderSwan   |	  194.349|  0,43%||             |          |       |
|Xbox         |	  110.174|  0,24%||             |          |       |
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|handhelds    |11.706.803| 25,92%||handhelds    |11.753.494| 25,41%|
|consoles     |33.454.147| 74,08%||consoles     |34.493.645| 74,59%|
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|Total sales  |45.160.950|100,00%||Total sales  |46.247.139|100,00%|
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|     Famitsu 2004 top 500       ||     Famitsu 2005 top 500       |
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|   SYSTEM    |    YTD   | RATIO ||   SYSTEM    |    YTD   | RATIO |
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|Playstation 2|31.645.479| 57,79%||Playstation 2|26.564.692| 53,92%|
|Game Boy Adv.|16.473.716| 30,08%||DS           |11.419.837| 23,18%|
|Gamecube     |	4.724.786|  8,63%||Game Boy Adv.| 6.232.964| 12,65%|
|DS           |	1.169.715|  2,14%||Gamecube     | 2.866.999|  5,82%|
|PSP          |   520.309|  0,95%||PSP          | 2.069.371|  4,20%|
|Xbox         |	  159.674|  0,29%||Xbox360      |    59.525|  0,12%|
|Playstation  |	   67.981|  0,12%||Playstation  |    50.441|  0,10%|
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|handhelds    |18.163.740| 33,17%||handhelds    |19.722.172| 40,03%|
|consoles     |36.597.920| 66,83%||consoles     |29.541.657| 59,97%|
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|Total sales  |54.761.660|100,00%||Total sales  |49.263.829|100,00%|
--------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|     Famitsu 2006 top 500       ||     Famitsu 2007 top 500       |
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|DS           |37.800.177| 52,62%||DS           |37.044.312| 53,20%|
|Playstation 2|22.000.680| 30,62%||Playstation 2|11.267.972| 16,18%|
|PSP          |	5.661.288|  7,88%||WII          |11.265.118| 16,18%|
|Game Boy Adv.|	2.767.576|  3,85%||PSP          | 6.034.774|  8,67%|
|WII          |	1.896.479|  2,64%||Playstation 3| 2.659.962|  3,82%|
|Gamecube     |   677.986|  0,94%||Xbox360      |   866.940|  1,25%|
|Xbox360      |	  579.060|  0,81%||Game Boy Adv.|   412.385|  0,59%|
|Playstation 3|	  397.930|  0,55%||Playstation  |    79.120|  0,11%|
|Playstation  |	   58.315|  0,08%||             |          |       |
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|handhelds    |46.229.041| 64,35%||handhelds    |43.491.471| 62,46%|
|consoles     |25.610.450| 35,65%||consoles     |26.139.112| 37,54%|
--------------------------------------------------------------------
|Total sales  |71.839.491|100,00%||Total sales  |69.630.583|100,00%|
--------------------------------------------------------------------
----------------------------------
|     Famitsu 2008 top 500       |
----------------------------------
|DS           |26.193.749| 43,57%|
|WII          |13.083.309| 21,76%|
|PSP          |	9.027.057| 15,02%|
|Playstation 2|	5.764.091|  9,59%|
|Playstation 3|	4.590.121|  7,64%|
|Xbox360      |	1.253.536|  2,09%|
|Game Boy Adv.|	  203.199|  0,34%|
----------------------------------
|handhelds    |35.424.005| 58,93%|
|consoles     |24.691.057| 41,07%|
----------------------------------
|Total sales  |60.115.062|100,00%|
----------------------------------

 

[onken]

Am I the only one that expects Vesperia to follow Trusty Bell's path? Basically not outsell the 360 version 1st week or LTD?

I thinking ToV is going to do very well, 200k for first week sounds about right.

 

[sphinx]

Japan isn't shifting to handhelds, at least not as many mean it. It is shifting to the winning system which happens to be a handheld.

Ohh, this here.

If your post has any resonance, you will have quite a good amount of sales-agers debating this point for the next 3 pages.

So you are saying, everything competes against everything and that ONE clear winner is always recognizable.

So:

PS2 supreme King -> GBA runner up

DS supreme King -> ? Wii or PSP ? can the PS3 turn into the runner up in the middle, long-term?

all of them have abysmal software sales outside of a couple of titles, to be honest.

 

[ActionMan]

PSP in 2009 until now follows the same pattern, with the difference that every other system (besides 360) has big hits coming but PSP not. So, and this year is one of the same.

I'm not betting on PSP Go! itself to make a significant impact on sales, but both Gran Turismo and Metal gear Solid: Peace Walker are coming out in Japan this year, are they not?

 

[Chris1964]

Gran Turismo yes, Metal Gear no, PSP Go will be a GB Micro bomb.

 

[HK-47]

Well unless you think your opinion is worth the opinion of millions of others they tend to be one in the same. Nintendo constantly holds most of the sales charts, it's really hard to say it's accidental. What you seem to be doing is forcing a hardcore versus casual debate in that what you like is bettter than what other people like.

What lines are you reading between? That wasnt at all the point.

 

[test_account]

Gran Turismo yes, Metal Gear no, PSP Go will be a GB Micro bomb.

Isnt Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker coming out this year in October or something? Or do you mean "no" to that Peace Walker wont have a significant impact on the PSP hardware sales?

 

[bernardobri]

Isnt Metal Gear Solid: Peace Walker coming out this year in October or something? Or do you mean "no" to that Peace Walker wont have a significant impact on the PSP hardware sales?

PW is scheduled to be released on 2010

 

[test_account]

PW is scheduled to be released on 2010

Really? I thought Peace Walker was suppose to be out this October or something. Was it suppose to be released in this October at first, and then delayed? Or am i mixing it up with another game?

 

[donny2112]

PSP Go will be a GB Micro bomb.

I think

• PSP Go will be tracked separately like DSi
• PSP Go will sell much more than GBMicro in Japan, but it won't be a GBASP, DSL, or DSi in sales

.

 

[Sage00]

Really? I thought Peace Walker was suppose to be out this October or something. Was it suppose to be released in this October at first, and then delayed? Or am i mixing it up with another game?

It was always 2010. Maybe you're thinking of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep?

 

[test_account]

It was always 2010. Maybe you're thinking of Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep?

Oh, i thought Peace Walker was suppose to come out this October or something in 2009. I guess i must have mixed it up with another game then, sorry Ye, maybe i mixed it up with Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep as you say, or maybe Gran Turismo PSP. Is GT PSP coming out in October?

 

[Nirolak]

Oh, i thought Peace Walker was suppose to come out this October or something in 2009. I guess i must have mixed it up with another game then, sorry Ye, maybe i mixed it up with Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep as you say, or maybe Gran Turismo PSP. Is GT PSP coming out in October?

Yes, GT PSP is launching with the PSP Go.

 

[donny2112]

Yes, GT PSP is launching with the PSP Go.

That's Persona 3 Portable. GT PSP is a month before the Go in Japan.

 

[test_account]

Yes, GT PSP is launching with the PSP Go.

Ok, i guess that i maybe mixed up Peace Walker's release date with GT PSP's release date,

Thanks for the info to everyone regarding Peace Walkers release date!

 

[charlequin]

First of all I want to say that I completely agree with dathien about the status of Japanese market. PSP gets a lot of praise and WII a lot of hate when actually both of them are at a mediocre status.

I think there are two factors at play here. One is that PSP's success was amplified by its previously poor performance -- i.e. when it started off getting its butt kicked by DS, then had a fairly significant revival, that "set the tone" for the PSP's perception for some time afterwards; the other one is that the Wii has more obvious strategic blunders (i.e. software lineups that underperformed, a lack of developer attention, etc.) to pick on, while the PSP has slowly bled off its long previous bump without much fanfare.

Japan isn't shifting to handhelds, at least not as many mean it. It is shifting to the winning system which happens to be a handheld.

"Happens to" is the point I take issue with here.

At least when I say it, I don't mean "Japan is switching to handhelds" to mean that literally no one is interested in playing home games any longer; what I mean, instead, is that a) a handheld system has an inherent draw that is lacking for a home system and b) qualities that in a home system might provide an inherent attraction in the US market (high-quality AV aspects, media playing, etc.) do not (anymore) in Japan.

In other words: I don't expect home consoles to die, but I do believe the handheld variable is quite significant. PSP's (seemingly temporary) resurgence was fueled almost entirely by its handheld nature, and fueled it to a point where it could perform at the mediocre level of the Wii (rather than the shitty level of the 360 and PS3.)

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Based on the latest Famitsu hardware numbers...
PSP comparisons: After 247 weeks, PSP is where PS2 was at 196.4 weeks (December 3, 2003), where DS was at 104.3 weeks (November 28, 2006), and where GBA was at 167.3 weeks (June 1, 2004).

X360 comparisons: After 195 weeks, X360 is where GCN was at 18.7 weeks (January 18, 2002), where PS3 was at 40.6 weeks (August 16, 2007), and where Wii was at 5.9 weeks (January 6, 2007).

PS3 comparisons: After 147 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 48.1 weeks (January 29, 2001), where PSP was at 71.3 weeks (April 18, 2006), where GCN was at 135.4 weeks (April 6, 2004), and where Wii was at 36.9 weeks (August 11, 2007).

Wii comparisons: After 144 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 102.2 weeks (March 3, 2003), where DS was at 78.7 weeks (June 2, 2006), where PS2 was at 123.1 weeks (July 8, 2002), and where PSP was at 172.4 weeks (March 26, 2008).

DSi comparisons: After 44 weeks, DSi is where GBASP was at 60.7 weeks (April 9, 2004) and where DSL was at 21.5 weeks (July 27, 2006).

Based on last week's Media Create hardware numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 72.0 / 28.0 bring total shares to 68.4 / 31.6. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 568.2 weeks (July 21, 2020).

X360 vs PS3: Weekly shares of 87.5 / 12.6 make this the most X360-tilted week ever. This brings total shares to 25.3 / 74.7. At this week's rates, X360 catches up to PS3 in 348.6 weeks (May 6, 2016). If PS3 stopped selling and X360 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 298.6 weeks (May 22, 2015).

PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 4.0 / 96.0 make this the most Wii-tilted week ever. This brings total shares to 28.0 / 72.0. If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 4,961.9 weeks (October 5, 2104).

Based on the latest Media Create hardware numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 75.6 / 24.4 bring total shares to 68.4 / 31.6. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 670.1 weeks (July 12, 2022).

X360 vs PS3: Weekly shares of 4.3 / 95.7 make this the second most PS3-tilted week ever, behind the week of MGS4. This brings total shares to 24.6 / 75.4. If PS3 stopped selling and X360 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 338.5 weeks (March 3, 2016).

PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 87.6 / 12.4 make this the most PS3-tilted week since before Wii released. This brings total shares to 28.8 / 71.2. At this week's rates PS3 catches up in 38.6 weeks (June 4, 2010). If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 33.1 weeks (April 26, 2010).

 

[king zell]

where is the lines for the new Pokemon games pics?? am disappointed

 

[cvxfreak]

The lines at Shinjuku weren't anything special. Just a lot of people (adults, not very many children) getting in line and buying one or both versions. Didn't notice any DS hardware selling, but DS sales should rise for sure.

Otherwise, I think the general morning launch atmosphere was nowhere near DQIX, MH3 or the PS3 Slim. Not that Pokemon needs it. These games will be selling two years from now.

EDIT: Here's the one photo I took from Bic Camera:

 

[Opiate]

I already pointed out in this thread that the three home consoles this gen have sold pretty much exactly as much hardware as the three consoles last gen had by this same point. The home market is not contracting in Japan, at least not yet.

As I said, it's not that I don't believe portables will become a larger segment; it's that I don't think home systems will decline, just be outpaced.

I certainly see your argument, but I think we'll have to wait. Data plots like this are usually only observable over several generations, if not decades.

Put differently, I would expect decline of a product segment with a fiercely loyal base to be gradual and slow. More like erosion than collapse.

So, throwing out numbers I just made up, we might see a sales decline of 10% this generation. Not a big deal, right? I would agree. But if the next generation sees a similar decline, and the next one after that.... that's a market in decline.

For emphasis, I'm not saying this is definitely happening, or that it is inevitable, just that if it is happening, we probably won't realize it for a decade or so, when a 10% decline becomes a 20% decline, and a blip on the map becomes an observable pattern.

 

[freddy]

Yep, you've figured it out. Deep down in my heart I know that our benevolent Nintendo overlords are infinitely wiser and more moral than us mere mortals and the satanic overlords at Microsoft and Sony, but then one day I decided I would continuously troll the Wii with false and misleading information just to make you suffer.

I'm not suffering at all beyond having to scroll past your posts more often than not because they are bleating the same thing over and over. This happened with jimbo and to a lesser extent speigel(speagle?). Every Media-Create/NPD sales discussion ending up focusing on the one thing led by the same culprits week in week out gets boring.
Yes, Nintendo isn't perfect. Yes, they may have done things differently. Yes, third parties may have done the same. I just wish you'd let it go and apply your obvious intelligence to other topics for a change. I'd be interested to hear them.

 

[charlequin]

I just wish you'd let it go and apply your obvious intelligence to other topics for a change. I'd be interested to hear them.

If people would just acknowledge that I'm right I could give up on it! :lol

I dunno. I'm not sure how many interesting topics of debate are really on the table at this point. I keep getting drawn back to arguing about the Wii largely because it's so clearly at a tipping point: a bad enough strategy can pretty clearly leave it far worse off than it initially looked, while a good enough strategy can still leave it as an overall success whose current doldrums ultimately look like a momentary wobble. (Contrast to the PS3, which I don't expect to be meaningfully revived in the long run even by Sony's incredibly strong efforts at price-dropping and rebranding, or the DS which can do retirement laps from here 'til the DS2 and still be the most successful system of all time.)

But, seriously, if there's something you think is an interesting topic that's under-addressed in these threads, point it out and I'll make an effort to argue about that instead for a while. :lol

 

[Chris1964]

I finally finished with the media create database. I intended to post it around Christmas, but the last month I had a lot of free time and also big help from donny and joshua. So I managed to finish it a few months earlier . As you can see the format is EXTREMELY friendly user. Anyone who wants to start tracking Japanese sales (like me a couple of years ago) can use this file as a base.

Anyway here it is. Before you start dealing with it read the FAQ.

http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/134311/m-create-zip.html

 

[Kenka]

I finally finished with the media create database. I intended to post it around Christmas, but the last month I had a lot of free time and also big help from donny and joshua. So I managed to finish it a few months earlier . As you can see the format is EXTREMELY friendly user. Anyone who wants to start tracking Japanese sales (like me a couple of years ago) can use this file as a base.

Anyway here it is. Before you start dealing with it read the FAQ.

http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/134311/m-create-zip.html

Looks really good ! Can't believe how much work you put into this. This astounds me properly.

 

[donny2112]

Just because it was interesting to me, here's this week's update to the Japanese Console sales graph on my site.

 

[hirokazu]

Wow, Gundabump was so long ago now. :lol

 

[Linkup]

Wii still at a tipping point? who still believes that? If MH3, WSR, and a the new color performance haven't beat it into people then nothing will. Running around being hopeful of a price drop is a joke. Something would have to came completely out of the blue to change things at this point and if it does that still leaves it a distance second for consumers and devs in Japan.

 

[apujanata]

I finally finished with the media create database. I intended to post it around Christmas, but the last month I had a lot of free time and also big help from donny and joshua. So I managed to finish it a few months earlier . As you can see the format is EXTREMELY friendly user. Anyone who wants to start tracking Japanese sales (like me a couple of years ago) can use this file as a base.

Anyway here it is. Before you start dealing with it read the FAQ.

http://www.megafileupload.com/en/file/134311/m-create-zip.html

Very nice indeed. I can use this file to complement my Famitsu one (which I haven't updated for at least 2 years).

 

[boiled goose]

Wii still at a tipping point? who still believes that? If MH3, WSR, and a the new color performance haven't beat it into people then nothing will. Running around being hopeful of a price drop is a joke. Something would have to came completely out of the blue to change things at this point and if it does that still leaves it a distance second for consumers and devs in Japan.

i agreed with you completely up to this point... ???

 

[Linkup]

i agreed with you completely up to this point... ???

I think we can agree that the DS is the number one choice for both consumers and devs(as if they have much of a choice).

 

[AdventureRacing]

I think we can agree that the DS is the number one choice for both consumers and devs.

Wouldn't the PSP be the 2nd placed console and not the wii?

 

[farnham]

Wouldn't the PSP be the 2nd placed console and not the wii?

it is without a doubt

which makes me wonder why no psp wii ps2 multiplatform games are being developed as much as 360 and ps3 multiplats from japanese developers...

 

[Linkup]

Wouldn't the PSP be the 2nd placed console and not the wii?

If we say wii is 3rd right now(which is debatable with the support 360/PS3 have received) then if something big did come out of the blue it would push it ahead of the PSP, but still leave it a distance second.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Forever Blue 2 better sell something like 500k LTD or screw Japan.

 

[king zell]

SOLD OUT

 

[Chris1964]

It seems Nintendo undershipped Pokemon again. I hope they didn't ship less than 1,5M;

 

[slaughterking]

Yeah, I remember reading on Anoop's blog that one retailer anticipated a complete sellout on launch day.