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mollipen

Member
cvxfreak said:
I didn't pay the business class fare. :lol

United mileage ftw!
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I just flew back from Osaka via business and then first class, got a nice little layover in Hawaii, and $750 credit toward my next flight.

Overbooking FTW.
 
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RaijinFY

Member
And RR and Genji both sold well on the PS2.
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Genji did around ~100k on the PS2... not so well. As for RR, well it was 7 years ago (RRV) and the market changed quite a lot since there.

EDIT:

Oh and of course PS3 is doomed...
 
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cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
DeaconKnowledge said:
Just a personal tangent here, but why do people still expect Ridge Racer to be huge for any system?
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maybe because it was big on psone,ps2 and psp launch.......
 
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Bungalow Bob

Banned
Mana Knight said:
I'd say PS3 actually isn't doing all that bad. There's a very small selection of games available in Japan and really none of them are potential high sellers (except for RR7 to an extent, but RR6 didn't drive 360 sales much). PSP (although a handheld) at least had a Hot Shots Golf and Dynasty Warriors at launch (stuff that sold 1 million on PS2). I do feel that once more appealing games come out, the PS3 sales will increase (It's outselling 360 currently and there are pretty good games out for 360 in Japan).
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Exactly. PS3 is doing just as well as I thought it would do. It´s just that the Wii, and especially its software, is exceeding expectations. So the PS3 looks bad in comparison, when in reality, only RR sales are a disappointment.

Mana Knight said:
I can't believe Resistance is selling as well as it has in Japan. By the rate its going, it may be the top selling FPS ever in Japan, but we'll see.
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Resistance sales are definitely a pleasant surprise. Does anyone know what the best selling FPS in Japan is and how much it sold?
 
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ethelred

Member
Bungalow Bob said:
Exactly. PS3 is doing just as well as I thought it would do. It´s just that the Wii (and especially its software is exceeding expectations. So the PS3 looks bad in comparison, when in reality, only RR sales are a disappointment.

Resistance sales are definitely a pleasant surprise. Does anyone know what the best selling FPS in Japan is and how much it sold?
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The PS3 is doing well compared to what? It's tracking dramatically lower than the PS2, than the DS, than the Wii, even than the PSP (750k in its first two months and awesome software sales).

"Only RR sales are a disappointment?" Ridge Racer's one of the two best selling games on there, so if that's a disappointment, I'd hate to think what the rest of the software is...
 
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gamergirly

Member
Il Comodino said:
yes but 35k Ps3 is not confirmed.
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Do you actually need Sony to send you a personal email from corporate to inform you that 35K PS3s have been sold to believe it? That's a big stretch
 
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jimbo

Banned
Another interesting analysis. Compared to last year's hardware numbers for this week:

PSP 57,686
DS 54,284
PS2 39,076
Xbox360 6,107

DSlite: 110k(200%)
Wii: 96k(N/A)
PSP: 45k(80%)
PS3: 34k(N/A)
PS2: 24k(62%)
360: 9k(150%)

Edit: Well that changes things. Sony took the biggest hit. Sony systems sold less than they did last year, while Nintendo and Microsoft more.

Does anybody have original Xbox sales for this time period in its lifetime?
 
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ethelred

Member
jimbo said:
Another interesting analysis. Compared to last year's hardware numbers for this week:

PSP 57,686
DS 54,284
PS2 39,076
Xbox360 6,107

DSlite: 110k(200%)
Wii: 96k(N/A)
PSP: 45k(120%)
PS3: 34k(N/A)
PS2: 24k(62%)
360: 9k(150%)


With the exception of the PS2(expected) every major system sold more than it did last year, showing signs of growth in Japan. Not to mention the additional sales of the Wii and PS3.
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45k is less than 57k, unless my skills at math are truly failing me now... after this thread, I'm not sure either way.
 
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jimbo

Banned
ethelred said:
45k is less than 57k, unless my skills at math are truly failing me now... after this thread, I'm not sure either way.
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Oops thank you. Brain fart. I did them backwards. I will adjust accordingly.
 
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starship

psycho_snake's and The Black Brad Pitt's B*TCH
Those Resistance numbers are really great, as I expected its on pace to become the best selling FPS game in Japan.
As for hardware numbers (which is not MC numbers but anyway), as I expected, it seems DS sales dropped a lot (of course due to shortages), and Wii was ~ 100k which I expected it to be.
X360 dropped below 10k and will continue to drop in the nest weeks.
Also very disappointing PS3 numbers, it seems Japanese people chose their platform of choice. :D
Wii will dominate Japan without a doubt.
 
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Mithos Yggdrasill

Banned
If these numbers are true, and if Sony has really shipped 1 million machines, then the PS3is in trouble. Incredible.
After 21 millions PS2 sold in Japan and with a hardcore userbase that more hard cannot be, now the PS3 has problem to sell: just unbelievable !!!
The Nintendo DS has not only changed the way people play, it corrupted the minds of all Japan too !!!
 
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Bungalow Bob

Banned
ethelred said:
The PS3 is doing well compared to what? It's tracking dramatically lower than the PS2, than the DS, than the Wii, even than the PSP (750k in its first two months and awesome software sales).
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The PS3 is doing fine (in Japan) compared to my expectations. I had those expectation based on the only good launch game being a FPS, the price, the Nintendo domination of the last year, the low HD TV sales, the uselessness of a Blue-ray player to almost all Japanese people right now, as well as of course the PS brand and the future killer aps that will eventually come out.

ethelred said:
"Only RR sales are a disappointment?" Ridge Racer's one of the two best selling games on there, so if that's a disappointment, I'd hate to think what the rest of the software is...
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Resistance sure isn´t a disappointment sales-wise. What other games do you consider to have not met expectations?
 
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fresquito

Member
Bungalow Bob said:
Exactly. PS3 is doing just as well as I thought it would do. It´s just that the Wii, and especially its software, is exceeding expectations. So the PS3 looks bad in comparison, when in reality, only RR sales are a disappointment.
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So having sold in two months this low for the successor of the big PS2 is now "doing well"?

PS2 sold the PS3 LTD on its first week dude :lol
 
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Cheebs

Member
So if my expectations for Virtual Boy in America was 5 systems sold that made it a success using this new found expectation logic?

PS3's expectation is matching PS2 and PSX, simple as that.
 
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starship

psycho_snake's and The Black Brad Pitt's B*TCH
Bungalow Bob said:
The PS3 is doing fine (in Japan) compared to my expectations. I had those expectation based on the only good launch game being a FPS, the price, the Nintendo domination of the last year, the low HD TV sales, the uselessness of a Blue-ray player to almost all Japanese people right now, as well as of course the PS brand and the future killer aps that will eventually come out.



Resistance sure isn´t a disappointment sales-wise. What other games do you consider to have not met expectations?
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:lol :lol
 
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Elios83

Member
PS3 numbers are terrible if true,even if the holyday season is over, having troubles selling even the first million units in Japan means doomed with the current strategy.They need big games and a 10.000 yen price cut as soon as possible.
 
Haunted

Haunted

Member
DCharlie said:
"Sony will sell as many units as they can ship" line? it's not looking to rosy right about now.
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I hate to repeat myself, but this development is still unbelievable to me.
 
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ethelred

Member
Bungalow Bob said:
The PS3 is doing fine (in Japan) compared to my expectations. I had those expectation based on the only good launch game being a FPS, the price, the Nintendo domination of the last year, the low HD TV sales, the uselessness of a Blue-ray player to almost all Japanese people right now, as well as of course the PS brand and the future killer aps that will eventually come out.
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"I expected Japan to completely and emphatically reject the PS3 and everything it stands for, but about 25 more people bought it this week than I thought... it's doing very well!"
 
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Bungalow Bob

Banned
fresquito said:
So having sold in two months this low for the successor of the big PS2 is now "doing well"?

PS2 sold the PS3 LTD on its first week dude :lol
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Please re-read my post, buey. I said it´s doing just as well as I thought it would do - meaning I had lower expectations than others who thought it would start off as well as PS2. Remember when The Matrix was one of the best selling pieces of PS2 software? The dvd player was a huge reason for the incredible PS2 sales right from the start. The Blue-ray player right now is much less desirable than a dvd player in 2000. Is it really surprising that something that does less for more (money), has slower sales if stronger competition is present (Nintendo now compared to the Nintendo of 2000)? This in part is why my expectations were low to begin with. Interesting question for everyone: how many PS3s did you guys think would have sold up to this point, before the PS3 launched?

Btw, I expect PS3 to sell about 10 million lifetime in Japan.
 
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starship

psycho_snake's and The Black Brad Pitt's B*TCH
Elios83 said:
PS3 numbers are terrible if true,even if the holyday season is over, having troubles selling even the first million units in Japan means doomed with the current strategy.They need big games and a 10.000 yen price cut as soon as possible.
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And this is in Japan, where the PS3 has the cheapest price point.
This is not good for Sony at all.
I think DS has changed Japanese tastes and strengthened Nintendo image in Japan, so we can expect to see Nintendo as the king of home consoles in Japan again.
On the other side, Playstation brand is at the weakest point in Japan at the moment. Sony will be lucky if PS3 sells half of what PS2 sold LTD.
 
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duderon

rollin' in the gutter
Bungalow Bob said:
Please re-read my post, buey. I said it´s doing just as well as I thought it would do - meaning I had lower expectations than others who thought it would start off as well as PS2. Remember when The Matrix was one of the best selling pieces of PS2 software? The dvd player was a huge reason for the incredible PS2 sales right from the start. The Blue-ray player right now is much less desirable than a dvd player in 2000. Is it really surprising that something that does less for more (money), has slower sales if stronger competition is present (Nintendo now compared to the Nintendo of 2000)? This in part is why my expectations were low to begin with. Interesting question for everyone: how many PS3s did you guys think would have sold up to this point, before the PS3 launched?

Btw, I expect PS3 to sell about 10 million lifetime in Japan.
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I think most people here expected PS3 to sell out well into January, at the least. It's not that hard to imagine given the incredible success of the PS2. Now you're sitting here in hindsight and saying your expectations are much lower than the general consensus. It's easy to say you don't think the PS3 will be as successful as it's predecessor now, but did you think this before it launched anywhere?
 
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fresquito

Member
I was expecting shortages in the first place. So demand > supply. However, it's sad that with one million supplied and in two months time, the PS3's halfway selling that quantity.

If you forsaw this, congrats to you.
 
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Linkup

Member
starship said:
I think DS has changed Japanese tastes and strengthened Nintendo image in Japan, so we can expect to see Nintendo as the king of home consoles in Japan again.
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I doubt it has changed Japan's tastes. I thinking that they found a market that was being ignored and thus rewarded.

duderon said:
It's easy to say you don't think the PS3 will be as successful as it's predecessor now, but did you think this before it launched anywhere?
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huh?
 
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charlequin

Banned
Bungalow Bob said:
The PS3 is doing fine (in Japan) compared to my expectations.
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Stop the presses, everybody!

bobPS3newspaper.jpg
 
Craig Majaski

Craig Majaski

Member
Someone out there has to know for sure, but didn't older consoles launch at similar prices in Japan and sell better than PS3 is? I thought the PS1 and Saturn debuted at $399 or higher in Japan....and what about Dreamcast over there? Anyway, I don't think it's just price keeping people from buying the machine.
 
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Bungalow Bob

Banned
duderon said:
I think most people here expected PS3 to sell out well into January, at the least. It's not that hard to imagine given the incredible success of the PS2. Now you're sitting here in hindsight and saying your expectations are much lower than the general consensus. It's easy to say you don't think the PS3 will be as successful as it's predecessor now, but did you think this before it launched anywhere?
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I´ve had these expectations all along.... Too bad my account took so long to validate.

Like I said before, I had those expectation based on the only good launch game being a FPS, the price, the Nintendo domination of the last year, the low HD TV sales, the uselessness of a Blue-ray player to almost all Japanese people right now, as well as of course the PS brand and the future killer aps that will eventually come out. Oh, and also that Wii Sports and Play would be instant successes (kinda like at E3), and would take attention and interest away from the PS3.

My biggest assumptions (since I don´t know too many Japanese) were that they can´t care less about Blue-ray, and that Wii Sports and Wii Play would be huge. At the very least I was right about the latter.
 
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starship

psycho_snake's and The Black Brad Pitt's B*TCH
Linkup said:
I doubt it has changed Japan's tastes. I thinking that they found a market that was being ignored and thus rewarded.
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I meant in regard to brand power. DS strengthened Nintendo brand and weakened PS brand there so it seems the DS changed their tastes.
 
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duderon

rollin' in the gutter
Linkup said:
I doubt it has changed Japan's tastes. I thinking that they found a market that was being ignored and thus rewarded.



huh?
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I'm saying it is easy to come to the conclusion that the PS3 is going to have a hard time equaling PS2's sales now that we've seen it struggling after launch. I don't remember anyone here saying the PS3 was not going to be sold out in January.
 
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donny2112

Member
edwardslane said:
Lol i seen that psp sales were ahead of the DS and i knew that something was up.. sure enough it was last year. Nintendo has come a long way with the DS in the last year in seperating their DS from the psp.
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That was the second full week of shortages. One month before that is when the DS sold 600K in one week. No separation necessary. ;)

Brak said:
So is this officially one full year of DS shortages or did that happen last week?
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It was one full year a couple of weeks ago. I still think that the shortages will probably ease up in the Spring. I've been saying that since last Summer, by the way. ;)

jj984jj said:
It's been a year, but Nintendo wasn't doing it on purpose back then, then they started to do it on purpose by only shipping about 150K a week up until the holidays.
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The heck?

Iwata: Let's see. We make 2 million DSs per month. We can either A) send them all to Japan and screw the rest of the world or B) divide them up.
Yes-Man 1: Send them only to Japan!
Yes-Man 2: Spread them out to the world!
Iwata: If I spread them out to the world, that means we'll only be able to ship 150K per week in Japan with some extra for big releases.
Yes-Man 1: Share with the world! Japan will understand.
Yes-Man 2: Screw the world! Send them all to Japan.
Iwata: I wonder what jj984jj will think about this.

:p
 
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Bungalow Bob

Banned
charlequin said:
Stop the presses, everybody!

bobPS3newspaper.jpg
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:lol OMG - that´s awsome!:lol
I´m enjoying this place even more than I though i would!

Seriously though, I´m not argueing that there isn´t a single PS3 game, other than RR7, that has not met expectations. But rather that RR7 did significantly worse than I thought it would, while Resistance has done much better.

Man, I wonder what kind of reactions I would have gotten posting my predictions here 2 months ago?
 
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MasterMFauli

Banned
fresquito said:
So having sold in two months this low for the successor of the big PS2 is now "doing well"?
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Frankly, Nintendo was has always been the market leader, so it´s not that surprising....oh wait, that was the handheld market with NDS vs. PSP....

Oh snap :lol
 
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Bungalow Bob

Banned
starship said:
I meant in regard to brand power. DS strengthened Nintendo brand and weakened PS brand there so it seems the DS changed their tastes.
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Uh... maybe English isn´t your first language - that´s not changing tastes.
 
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