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Media Create Sales: Jul 27-Aug 2, 2009
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Segata Sanshiro
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Unless it has an impossibly sharp fall and disappears forever, yes.John Harker said:
Grampasso said:
I doubt it will hurt it in Japan, since its still a PS3 exclusive. As to 2 million..its definitely possible, but I have a feeling it might not reach those heights given that the userbase right now is barely above 3 million total.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
I think FFXIII is almost certainly going to sell less than FFXII.
1. It's on a system with a much lower install base (not terribly important since I think the fanbase will follow the franchise, but still bears mentioning).
2. The main series has been on a decline since FFVIII.
3. The Final Fantasy brand name has taken a slight sales beating from being heavily milked, even since FFXII released.
On the other hand, it is the return of Nomura/Kitase to the main series, so that might bring some people back... I guess we'll see, but my gut and at least 3/4ths of my brain says expect something lower than FFXII.
1. It's on a system with a much lower install base (not terribly important since I think the fanbase will follow the franchise, but still bears mentioning).
2. The main series has been on a decline since FFVIII.
3. The Final Fantasy brand name has taken a slight sales beating from being heavily milked, even since FFXII released.
On the other hand, it is the return of Nomura/Kitase to the main series, so that might bring some people back... I guess we'll see, but my gut and at least 3/4ths of my brain says expect something lower than FFXII.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Well, the good news is that since now you don't have to sell something extravagant like 5,000 to stay in the Top 30, DQ IX can beat that.bttb said:
Uh, I didn't notice installed base was low... well maybe 2 millions it's a bit high, I don't see it having a 60-70% attach rate, neither I see it pushing 1 million systems alone (which would "lower" attach rate to 50%, still crazy). Maybe 1-1.5 million in the end, which is definitely underwhelming for a FF game, but fortunately in the last decade it has been much more popular in the western market than in the japanese one. When is the english version bound to come? Spring 2010?schuelma said:
thestopsign
Member
JoshuaJSlone said:
Plus in 16 weeks we will be in the holiday ramp up period where I'm sure the game will get some sort of boost, even if it doesn't chart.
sinseers said:
Just do the old fliperoo on anything Anihawk says, that mean everything, no exceptions. He is always being sarcastic.
For more advanced analysis look for a hint on current - or even old but strong - GAF game related memes and trends...
If all that failues just nod wisely or quote his post with laffies...
Dabookerman said:
It's not defensive really, so much as a symptom of hearing this argument proposed routinely enough over the last couple of years whenever a game on the Wii doesn't sell 30 million copies. To give you an example: If we judged games based on how they sold relative to a system's install base, not a single game on the PS2 was all that successful. Which we know to be false, thereby exhausting any cohesion or accuracy to the argument.
I'm sure someone could provide you a more detailed response, I'm just using this one to keep the explanation brief.
Segata Sanshiro said:
Well, as of now based on the current info we have on all things known, I would expect FFXIII to clear 2 million, the first week might be lower than usual, say 1.4 or 1.5 million, but we'll see how much more it sells beyond that. I definitely think 2 million is a goal it'll reach regardless, because the FF fanbase isn't dead, and the PS3 isn't a dud of a console like the 360 is in Japan. Considering how long it took to develop FFXIII and how expensive it must be this time round, selling less than FFX would still be telling on S-E's finances though, so I guess going multiplatform was a good idea.
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Jonnyram said:
Clearly I'm not including handhelds, and am only talking about consoles.
It's certainly not a fair comparison to include them considering they are kicking their TV brethren's ass weekly :lol
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Vinci said:
We should certainly see some build-up of sales before what is arguably the PS3's biggest release in Japan ever. Even the release of Advent Children quadrupled hardware sales.
To be honest about 150k sounds possible. Perhaps more if there's a special console bundle.
Mahew said:
That's a wild card. The gameplay seems very different from traditional Final Fantasy and Crystal Chronicles games. I'd say it has potential to do very well if it catches on, but it also has the potential to flop pretty bad if the gameplay changes don't attract a new audience and alienate traditional RPG gamers.
schuelma said:
The gameplay change could turn out very beneficial if it appeals to the Monster Hunter crowd even in part. Depends on Square Enix's investment into the game too. Can they cook up a really engaging demo for TGS and will it be one of their highlights going into the holidays?
Grampa Simpson
Banned
That's why they should work on it some more and rename it Final Fantasy XV.jj984jj said:
Crystal Bearers is really hard to predict. It's part of a spin-off series that doesn't have nearly as much sales potential as the main Final Fantasy games but it's getting much closer to traditional FF style in terms of gamplay and presentation.
I quess that's the reason why the Crystal Chronicles text is so small the game's logo. Maybe the developers don't want people to know it's a CC game.
I quess that's the reason why the Crystal Chronicles text is so small the game's logo. Maybe the developers don't want people to know it's a CC game.
thestopsign
Member
I think Crystal Chronicles will do about what Tales of Symphonia "2" did. The situations are slightly different, one title is a spin-off with gameplay that is still based around the other games in the series with minimal effort put into it. The other is a spin-off with completely different gameplay, but looks to have a lot of effort put into it. So it sort of balances out. That's my rationalization at least.
Well, I quess I kinda knew this response would be coming when I wrote that.cw_sasuke said:
But yeah, I meant Crystal Bearers have moved from the multiplayer focused social game to a big single-player adventure epic a la main Final Fantasy.
Still, I quess the non-RPG battle system will lower its sales potential. Though you never know with Monster Hunter mania and all.
thestopsign
Member
GCX said:
Do you realize that you are hitting the q button instead of the g button when typing "guess"? It's really annoying me.
SlipperySlope
Banned
LM4sure said:
Uh, no. Actually, the Wii has more 3rd party sales of all the consoles.
was the e3 demo well-received?cw_sasuke said:
while i'm surprised it took so long for someone to attempt a telekinesis game on wii, i think this one has a steep hill to climb. i don't think people really know what it is, and they seem to be mixing up quite a few gameplay styles.
V
Vilix
Unconfirmed Member
John Harker said:
If you're talking exclusive third party content it has to beat MGS4. I believe the LTD number are somewhere around 4 million WW.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
Talking on IRC, and we're thinking that maybe the MC-Famistu discrepancy may be due to bundled MH3 Wii hardware.
Aaron Strife
Banned
I don't remember what the number was, but I'm positive that the original FF:CC for GameCube sold fairly high.jj984jj said:
Dragona Akehi
Retired
schuelma said:
Well, as far as I can remember, MC never counts bundled hardware towards software, whereas Famitsu may. Can anyone else confirm?