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Media Create Sales: June 15-21, 2009
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DeaconKnowledge
Member
Sorry, but I completely disagree with your "Nintendo has forgotten about us" rants. In fact, I've been nothing but satisfied with Nintendo's output on the Wii this gen. I just don't choose to pigeonhole myself into strict genre play like it seems many gaffers do.
test_account
XP-39C²
Did he say "a true sequel" or "the true sequel" (as in MGS Rising is a more of a spinoff game)?lherre said:
Ye, i just checked the trailer now and in the end of the trailer there is a counting, which goes up to "5"lherre said:
Well, it has one more number or letter after "5", it looks like an upside down "6" or an "E" or something, but "5" seems to be the last number indeed I think it would be cool if MGS5 would come on a portable system instead of a console. Dragon Quest 9 is on a portable system, so maybe MGS5 can be on a portable system as well?
But regarding MGS Rising, we will see if it comes out on this generation's consoles (PS3 and Xbox 360) or not
EDIT: I fixed a typo, i ment "Did he say", not "Did ye say" hehe
Grampasso said:
For English not being your first language, I think your message came across very clearly. I wouldn't lump myself in with your "us," but then I was on the verge of becoming a lapsed gamer before the DS. I was getting tired of playing the same games each generation, and with growing up, it wasn't seeming to be worth the time and money to continue down that path. I found great appeal in just leaving my old systems hooked up and replaying games I know I liked. "But you said you were tired of playing the same games!" I guess what I really meant is I was tired of going into a game expecting something new and finding the same game as the last time I played it each time. With games I'd already played to death, it had the benefit of 1) familiarity, 2) nostalgia ("I remember the first time I did this. Oh, yeah! Where was that hidden item again?" *go searches for it*), and 3) I didn't feel like I missed anything if I stopped playing in the middle of the game, since I'd already beaten it before.
The DS changed that (I was considering becoming handheld-only at that point), and the Wii continued that change. I'd say it even reignited my interest in "regular" games, too.
Grampasso said:
I highly value simplicity. KISS is a great concept that needs to be applied more often. Usually if something you're working on is getting too complicated, you need to back off and rethink things, because there's probably a simpler way of doing it that you're just missing. I guess that's basically what Nintendo did, too. They backed off the industry mindset, and rethought things to find a simpler solution.
I also like to think I have a childlike mind in the sense that I can find amusement in small things of life instead of always trying to focus on the bigger "grownup" things.
test_account said:
It's typical for the last week of the month.
I love the whole HD system vs Wii development cost arguments in media topics.
Some people here would argue a tetris game for the PS3 has a higher development cost than Super MArio Galaxy just because "OMGZ HD is expensive".
Also
[PSP] Valhalla Knights 2: Battle Stance (Marvelous Entertainment) - 5,800 (23%)
wasn't a bomb.
Its a failed cash in on basically the same game that came out a year ago on the PSP. A game that has done much better than Marvelous's other rpgs lately.
Some people here would argue a tetris game for the PS3 has a higher development cost than Super MArio Galaxy just because "OMGZ HD is expensive".
Also
[PSP] Valhalla Knights 2: Battle Stance (Marvelous Entertainment) - 5,800 (23%)
wasn't a bomb.
Its a failed cash in on basically the same game that came out a year ago on the PSP. A game that has done much better than Marvelous's other rpgs lately.
test_account
XP-39C²
Ah ok, i didnt know that, thanks for the infodonny2112 said:
But yesterday had more releases that usual, right? I cant recall that i have seen that long of a 1st day sales list before at least.Pureauthor
Member
Sage00 said:
I thought it was because that Wii Music didn't have a easy hook that all the other Wii ____ games had.
test_account said:Ah ok, i didnt know that, thanks for the info
It was a little longer than normal, but the last week of the month usually has a larger than normal release list. A game like Animal Crossing: WW would show up on the Top 30 for all the weeks of the month except the last one, and then reappear in the first week of the following month due to the extra releases that week.
Last week in March
Last week in April
Also, there are often more games released than get mentioned at 2ch or sinobi for any particular week. Don't think that all the games released each week are the games we see some numbers for.
http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/ship/index.htm
Browse that for a few months back to get an idea of how much is released each week.
Sage00 said:
Same with Wii Sports. That sucker bombed! :lol
Pureauthor
Member
donny2112 said:
Oh, Wii Sports came with an accessory, all righ...
Wait, this is Japan, isn't it? Can't use that joke here.
jeremy1456
Junior Member
I imagine in the not too distant future GAFfers will be making charts comparing the userbases of motion+ to that of PS3.
It won't be pretty.
It won't be pretty.
charlequin
Banned
markatisu said:
And yet it sold half as much in one day on PS3 in Japan as it did on PS3 in the US in one month. :lol
ccbfan said:
I find the argument that all developers across the board can magically keep development costs down the same way that nigh-shovelware niche game companies can when moving to development on a new, more powerful hardware platform equally disingenuous to the one that assumes high dev costs for "any" game on an HD system just because of where they're developed.
Thanks to Dash Kappei and Donny for the replies, I thought my post had passed unnoticed and I felt sad because I put quite a bit of heart in it :lol
I agree anyway, I knew that I had to buy another console together with the Wii for traditional games, so Nintendo was right again when they said that while most people would have made a choice between PS3 and X360 all of them would have had a Wii.
And while most of my friends easily get bored with most Wii games I own I really enjoy them - meaning I actually *have fun* with them. And that's what playing is supposed to mean, right? =)
I agree anyway, I knew that I had to buy another console together with the Wii for traditional games, so Nintendo was right again when they said that while most people would have made a choice between PS3 and X360 all of them would have had a Wii.
And while most of my friends easily get bored with most Wii games I own I really enjoy them - meaning I actually *have fun* with them. And that's what playing is supposed to mean, right? =)
charlequin
Banned
markatisu said:
If you lop a 0 off of that they might just be able to make it!
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Motion Plus comparisons: After 1 day, Motion Plus is where X360 was at 45.1 weeks (October 10, 2006) and where PS3 was at 2.9 weeks (November 19, 2006).jeremy1456 said:
JoshuaJSlone said:
Nah, it's farther along than that. Motion+ is sold separately, too, and apparently a lot of people are buying it along with WSR.
Edit:
By the way, I know I've said in that past that I didn't consider Wii Sports Resort a "real" sequel to Wii Sports based on the three games we knew about, at the time. Based on the additional games that have since been made known (including real sports like Golf and Basketball), I've changed my position. I'd still like a Wii Sports Advanced with more fleshed out versions of the Wii Sports games (though Golf is sort of that in WSR), but I think Wii Sports Resort is enough to be considered a sequel to Wii Sports or at least the same level as Wii Sports, if that makes sense.
Just wanted to update.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Hmm. While that's true, as long as this is multiple Motion Pluses going to a single console, I don't think it makes much difference.donny2112 said:
Not that I ever was saying what you used to be, but yeah, the more we've learned the more we've seen it contains a lot of the original in it.By the way, I know I've said in that past that I didn't consider Wii Sports Resort a "real" sequel to Wii Sports based on the three games we knew about, at the time. Based on the additional games that have since been made known (including real sports like Golf and Basketball), I've changed my position. I'd still like a Wii Sports Advanced with more fleshed out versions of the Wii Sports games (though Golf is sort of that in WSR), but I think Wii Sports Resort is enough to be considered a sequel to Wii Sports or at least the same level as Wii Sports, if that makes sense.
Just wanted to update.
Liabe Brave
Member
Anihawk said:
I think you meant "knock on wood".Durante said:
...or maybe you didn't.
Try 1.5 Million - this may very well be the biggest bomb of this generation thus far.markatisu said:
Capcom expectations:
source: Page 7 - http://ir.capcom.co.jp/english/data/pdf/fy2009_2rd_quarter_a.pdf
jeremy1456
Junior Member
cvxfreak said:
You mean cheap to whore out to TOSE. :lol
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
You don't make games trying to brake even, you make them trying to make profit. Capcom is interested to know where to invest to get the biggest profit.Minsc said:
And the game is an epic bomb, the biggest I've seen this generation.
Minsc
Gold Member
donny2112 said:
Did it really have that big a budget? I'm out of the loop for that game, but I'm surprised they put so much in to it. They need to be careful on more platforms than just the Wii it seems.
manueldelalas said:
What's the other game the bombed big? Shipped with some collector's edition of the movie on the PS3 version.
Dash Kappei
Not actually that important
Grampasso said:
That much was clear, and one of the reasons I took the ttime to write at least a short reply, 'cause I know the feeling of forking out a monster post just to have it go completely ignored by Gaffers :lol
And because, even if a bit on the OT side, it was actually a nice post.
And your english is fine mate
english is not my first launguage either though