Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Laguna said:
I think Nintendo laments now focusing on 3D Mario instead of 2D Mario for such a long time, if three years ago wasn't enough evidence.
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Media Create Sales: Nov 23-29, 2009
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I think Nintendo laments now focusing on 3D Mario instead of 2D Mario for such a long time, if three years ago wasn't enough evidence.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Both. They've already got the fanbase attached to milking machines buildings A-C, and the combination of short tubing and dead-insidedness keeps most of them from moseying to building E for another meal like the ten they've already got.Die Squirrel Die said:
charlequin
Banned
king zell said:
onken, bow down to duckroll YOUR NEW LORD AND MASTER
hatchx said:
Part of the problem I think as suggested was that Crystal Bearers wasn't Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles 2. It wasn't a proper follow up to the game that was released on the the cube that started the new brand. It was a spin off to a game that was already a spin off. Not to mention it most likely didn't get a fraction of push that Final Fantasy XIII is and will be getting. If anything Final Fantasy Fables could be sense as a closer successor to FF:CC then what Crystal Bearers.
However if it was marketed properly then I guess it's the game itself. As said a spin off to a spin off.
Regulus Tera said:
Maybe, but I think the time-out was actually benificial to the sales because every series loses its appeal if you release too many sequels in a short timespan (Sony-syndrom) but I agree that the pause was far too long. NSMB DS was the first new Mario 2D JnR after SM World. I was a little disappointed that there wasn´t a new Mario game even on GBA I would have loved a new one similar to the Mario Land series but the Advance-remakes were just too popular. Everyone should be happy for those sales (NSMBwii) since it means we´ll get more 2d and 3d Mario games on consoles.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
HK-47 said:
An awesome game selling awesome numbers says sad things about Japan.
'Kay.
SlipperySlope
Banned
I'll be rooting for a "New Legend of Zelda Wii".
I don't have a DS, so come on 2D Zelda on Wii!
I don't have a DS, so come on 2D Zelda on Wii!
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
New Zelda 2 now!
Hero of Legend
Member
Laguna said:
Thank you for reminding me of Super Mario Land!
Wario Land was a continuation of it, but it's obviously like it's own series as Rune Factory is to Harvest Moon.
Damn, this is perfect, get Good Feel to make a new Super Mario Land ala Wario Land Shake It!
I was bored so I did this query on Garaph (yes, I really like SQL ):
Main Mario entries FirstWeek/LTD Ratio
If we exclude the original Super Mario 64 (first 3D mario, great anticipation etc... plus it came out with the console release, right?) which had an insane (for the series) 54% rate, we can clearly see how long are main Mario entries legs.
Now let's take the worst possible scenario, which is at a 35% FW/LTD rate. If NSMBW will perform like this it will end up at 2,676,382. Realistically speaking, as we can see from the ratios there's a high probability the ratio for NSMBW will be lower than that. The average ratio, cutting off the first and the last ones (which are ridiculously high and low), is 19,3. That would bring the NSMBW LTD at 4853544. I think this is unrealistic as well, especially because home console iterations always tend to have shorter legs.
So in the end, I think something around 4 milions is not out of the question (maybe more depending on this holiday season)
):Main Mario entries FirstWeek/LTD Ratio
Code:
SELECT FWSales.TitleEnglish, TotalSales, FirstWeekSales,
(FirstWeekSales*100/TotalSales) AS Ratio FROM
(SELECT SoftwareInfo.GameID, TitleEnglish,
MAX(SalesLTD) AS TotalSales FROM SoftwareInfo, SoftwareWeekly
WHERE SoftwareInfo.GameID=SoftwareWeekly.GameID
AND SalesLTD >0 AND TitleEnglish LIKE '%Mario%'
AND TitleEnglish NOT LIKE '%Strikers%' AND TitleEnglish NOT LIKE '%Baseball%'
GROUP BY SoftwareInfo.GameID, TitleEnglish) AS LTDSales,
(SELECT SoftwareInfo.GameID, TitleEnglish, MIN(SalesLTD) AS FirstWeekSales
FROM SoftwareInfo, SoftwareWeekly WHERE SoftwareInfo.GameID=SoftwareWeekly.GameID
AND SalesLTD >0 AND TitleEnglish LIKE '%Super Mario%'
GROUP BY SoftwareInfo.GameID, TitleEnglish) AS FWSales
WHERE FWSales.GameID = LTDSales.GameID ORDER BY RatioNow let's take the worst possible scenario, which is at a 35% FW/LTD rate. If NSMBW will perform like this it will end up at 2,676,382. Realistically speaking, as we can see from the ratios there's a high probability the ratio for NSMBW will be lower than that. The average ratio, cutting off the first and the last ones (which are ridiculously high and low), is 19,3. That would bring the NSMBW LTD at 4853544. I think this is unrealistic as well, especially because home console iterations always tend to have shorter legs.
So in the end, I think something around 4 milions is not out of the question (maybe more depending on this holiday season)
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Man, I'd love to see some sort of timeline/flowchart about all the related and parallel platform series that have branched off starting from Donkey Kong.Hero of Legend said:
andymcc said:
I can see the Zelda Wii ads in my mind.
"It's dangerous to go alone, take this!"
8-bit Link walks in grabs sword, shows someone slashing Link's sword with the Motion Plus in Zelda Wii.
8-bit Link walks in grabs bow and arrow, shows someone shooting arrows in Zelda Wii.... etc.
BlackNMild2k1
Member
Chris1964 said:
I was wondering if you have a Top 5 1st week on Wii list and a Million Sellers Wii list?
JoshuaJSlone
Member
It's not so much that SM64 had a huge first week as that the only N64 data in Garaph is currently from the yearly Top 100/300 lists, so what your code picks up as its first number is actually its 1996 total.Grampasso said:
So that it sold only about half of its total in its first six months is in fact an indication of legginess.
Cygnus X-1
Member
slaughterking said:
HOLY SHIT.
...
Sorry, but I have been owned. I totally forgot how a 2D Mario can sell.
Btw: NSMBW sol in one week what Galaxy sold LTD.
Captain Smoker
Member
Top5 First Week:BlackNMild2k1 said:
WII - New Super Mario Bros. Wii 936.734
WII - Super Smash Bros. Brawl 816.198
WII - Mario Kart Wii 608.147
WII - Monster Hunter 3 (tri~) 582.548
WII - Wii Sports Resort 353.827
Wii Million Sellers:
WII - Wii Fit 3.538.570
WII - Wii Sports 3.528.473
WII - Wii Play 2.697.416
WII - Mario Kart Wii 2.370.000
WII - Super Smash Bros. Brawl 1.812.706
WII - Wii Sports Resort 1.355.000
WII - Mario Party 8 1.354.885
WII - Animal Crossing: City Folk 1.182.000
Captain Smoker said:
the Wii Million Sellers only show 1st party games so far?
NSMBWii will be there by next week.
mind sharing all million sellers including 3rd party? or/and anything near the million mark? thx
edit: oh nvm, it's for Japan only. forget about the 3rd party thing. but anything near the million? still want to know.
Hero of Legend said:Thank you for reminding me of Super Mario Land!
Wario Land was a continuation of it, but it's obviously like it's own series as Rune Factory is to Harvest Moon.
Damn, this is perfect, get Good Feel to make a new Super Mario Land ala Wario Land Shake It!
Wario Land was a continuation like you said but the gameplay was changed too much so it´s really a series on it´s own and I agree that Good Feel did a very good job on Shake It! especially the graphics were great. But really, we should stop dreaming this won´t happen.
NSMBwiis good sales will really help Kirby since they can effectively market it as the next multiplayer JnR after NSMBwii.
andymcc said:
Why shouldn´t there be any ads in Japan? The most hilarious one was from Japan, you know the Link to the Past one? Twilight Princess sold about 500-600k and Phantom Hourglass even 800k-900k. So I doubt there won´t be ads for Zelda in Japan.
boiled goose
good with gravy
WOW nsmbwii
and some people were saying it would sell similar to galaxy...O.O
and some people were saying it would sell similar to galaxy...O.O
DeaconKnowledge
Member
Uh, I thought Taiko Drum Master was a million seller too?
Oh thanks for pointing that out, I didn't check the release date even if that number was definitely strange to me, that explains a lotJoshuaJSlone said:It's not so much that SM64 had a huge first week as that the only N64 data in Garaph is currently from the yearly Top 100/300 lists, so what your code picks up as its first number is actually its 1996 total.
Captain Smoker
Member
PS3 Million Sellers:Laguna said:Can you do a PS3 milion seller list for PS3 too please?
http://www.japan-gamecharts.com/wii.phpJaruru said:the Wii Million Sellers only show 1st party games so far?
NSMBWii will be there by next week.
mind sharing all million sellers including 3rd party? or/and anything near the million mark? thx
edit: oh nvm, it's for Japan only. forget about the 3rd party thing. but anything near the million? still want to know.
^^
thestopsign
Member
DeaconKnowledge said:
It's somewhere around 600k.
thestopsign
Member
andymcc said:
Taiko no Tatsujin: Tatakon de Dodon ga Don: 743.334
I think that's the highest selling one.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
jett said:
I'm not really sure how; I've always preferred the 2D Marios over 3D.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
andymcc said:
Yeah, it's all opinions. I'm really not a huge fan of the 3D Marios at all. I still haven't beaten Galaxy, and it isn't because it's a "bad" game, I just don't like 3D Marios that much.
nextgeneration
Member
Dragona Akehi said:
Ditto for me. Mario in 3d just never did it for me. And in looking at the sales figures, it would appear that more people like their Mario's in 2d than 3d.
A Twisty Fluken
Member
Dragona Akehi said:
I really like Mario in 3D, SM64 is one of my more favorite games of all time. However. something like Super Mario World is the kind of game that I will put in my GBA for no good reason and 3 hours later look up like WHAT HAPPENED. 2D Mario is the one true Mario, for me.