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[Chris1964]

Atlus reveals P3P has digitally sold 10k so far, and perhaps Media Create data doesn't include it.

You can be sure that there isn't anyone tracker who includes them.

 

[THE Caffeinated]

The GO seemed to boost regular PSP sales, it's as if people are being them out of difiance for DD.

 

[Talwind]

How did Crystal Bearers do against the rest of the CC series?

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Or maybe he'll decide to announce Zelda Wii early!

Which would help in America but do little in Japan.

 

[Chris1964]

The price cut seemed to boost regular PSP sales, it's as if people are being them out of difiance for DD.

fixed

 

[Vinci]

How did Crystal Bearers do against the rest of the CC series?

Worse.

 

[duckroll]

Atlus reveals P3P has digitally sold 10k so far, and perhaps Media Create data doesn't include it.

Where did they say that? I think I missed it...

 

[Road]

Where did they say that? I think I missed it...

I found it. It's here: http://www.famitsu.com/blog/p3p/1229728_2045.html

"同時発売の、PSP goをはじめとする、DL版の状況ですが、2週間で1万ダウンロードを突破したとのこと。"

 

[Spiegel]

So Persona 3 Portable (third release of the same game, 6279Y) is outselling Final Fantasy Gaiden (new game, 5980Y).

Crazy.

 

[Vinci]

So Persona 3 Portable (third release of the same game, 6279Y) is outselling Final Fantasy Gaiden (new game, 5980Y).

Crazy.

Casual gamers don't like spin-offs for the most part, it seems.

 

[schuelma]

So Persona 3 Portable (third release of the same game, 6279Y) is outselling Final Fantasy Gaiden (new game, 5980Y).

Crazy.

DS userbase hates Final Fantasy CONFIRMED.

 

[Chris1964]

So Persona 3 Portable (third release of the same game, 6279Y) is outselling Final Fantasy Gaiden (new game, 5980Y).

Crazy.

If Birth by Sleep sells similarly to 358/2 days I really wanna see your reaction.

 

[Rolf NB]

I swear, debating whether or not something is a spin-off must be the second-lowest form of human communication, just between armpit farts and burps.

 

[Spiegel]

Jesus, defensive much?

Who was expecting that?

If Birth by Sleep sells similarly to 358/2 days I really wanna see your reaction.

My reaction?

BBS selling significantly less of what Crisis Core or Dissidia did, would be considered a megabomba for me

 

[charlequin]

Poor Go, you deserve so much better.

No, it actually deserves worse.

Sony has a continual problem with being unable to define who their market is, leading to confused or apathetic consumers. Who is the PSP Go even for?

The PSP Go is for people who care more about the fact that they're downloading games wirelessly from the Internet than about what games they are or what system they're downloading them onto.

Oh man, Crystal Bearers why? Not even SE's products tagged with "Final Fantasy" are safe anymore. Someone remind me of the most recent SE sale hit that wasn't a mainline FF or DQ.

Pretty much everything with "Kingdom Hearts" in the name still shits gold.

Just as I gear up to get a Wii at the end of this year, looks like a mass exodus of developers is going to occur with japanese devs just giving up on the Wii completely :lol

You can't exodus from a place you never were.

Which really mean consumers be damned.

Not really. I'm pretty quick to jump on anti-consumer action by gaming companies but platform selection really just doesn't qualify. The overall drubbing that third-parties have taken this generation is its own "reward" for their broad failure to develop a reasonable platform strategy.

- the DS market is obviously saturated, DSi didn't do shit

elaborate-chart-explaining-what-saturated-means-and-how-a-market-where-a-system-still-sells-thirty-five-thousand-units-a-week-cant-be-saturated.jpg

Its going to be doing more than that due to FF13.

You are seeing the PS3 do "more than that due to FF13" right now. The number of people who buy a PS3 for FF13 will become completely insignificant about three weeks after the game's release because 95% of the game's lifetime sales will be in those same three weeks.

There are certainly other things that can keep PS3 elevated next year, but FF13 is unambiguously not one of them. Calling it "in the bag" is precisely as presumptuous as suggestions the PS3 would inevitably return to 10k weeks after the Slim bump were.

 

[iidesuyo]

Btw, does anyone know who this guy is?

 

[onken]

Yes it's my view NSMB Wii will trend closer to SMG than NSMB DS, though it could absolutely turn out to be a legaton I'm not ruling that out at all.

 

[schuelma]

Yes it's my view NSMB Wii will trend closer to SMG than NSMB DS, though it could absolutely turn out to be a legaton I'm not ruling that out at all.

I think you already answered this, but can you remind me what your predictions are?

 

[darkhunger]

How did Crystal Bearers do against the rest of the CC series?

First week sales from Famitsu:

FFCC: 191,602
RoF: 206,439
EoT DS/Wii: 101,989/22,876
CB: 35,000

 

[Cedille]

Btw, does anyone know who this guy is?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18550244&postcount=49

 

[Parl]

First week sales from Famitsu:

FFCC: 191,602
RoF: 206,439
EoT DS/Wii: 101,989/22,876
CB: 35,000

Were these DSiWare/WiiWare?

 

[onken]

I think you already answered this, but can you remind me what your predictions are?

I can't be bothered to trail through the old threads, so I'll make a fresh one of 400k/1.5m

 

[distantmantra]

Were these DSiWare/WiiWare?

Nope. Full retail games.

 

[schuelma]

I can't be bothered to trail through the old threads, so I'll make a fresh one of 400k/1.5m

Thanks

 

[Kurosaki Ichigo]

10k DL for P3P is really decent. Decent enough to annoy me that those sales are going to be under the radar. With the Go failure, the extremely limited catalog online and the outrageous pricing I thought right now we wouldn't be missing more than 3 digits numbers for titles like Persona.

 

[Durante]

Well, regardless of the fate of the Go, every single PSP can potentially be used to buy DD games. So, for franchises targeted at an at least partly tech-aware audience like Persona I'm not that surprised to see ~6% DD sales.

 

[Allan Holdsworth]

Add 1-10% (depending on how casual/hardcore the game is) to the retail sales and you have the total.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

Oh man, Crystal Bearers why? Not even SE's products tagged with "Final Fantasy" are safe anymore. Someone remind me of the most recent SE sale hit that wasn't a mainline FF or DQ.

Kingdom Hearts, silly.

How did Crystal Bearers do against the rest of the CC series?

This view doesn't include the game names, but you get the idea. Note Crystal Bearers isn't yet included.

 

[Chris1964]

I just realized I posted this week's releases as the the next week's. These are next week releases (26/11/06). Holiday season begins. PS2 and PS3 have some amazing titles.

xx . [NDS] Professor Layton and the Flute of Malevolent Destiny (Level 5)
xx . [NDS] Cooking Mama 3 (Taito Corporation)
xx . [NDS] Tea Dog's Room DS 4: Ochaken Land de Hotto Shiyo? (MTO)
xx . [NDS] Gakken Eigo Sanmai DS (Gakken)
xx . [NDS] Roller Angels: Pasha to Daisakusen (Starfish)
xx . [NDS] Strike Witches: Aoi no Dengekisen - Shin Taichou Funtousuru! (Russel)
xx . [NDS] 1500 DS Spirits: Mahjong V (Tasuke)
xx . [NDS] 1500 DS Spirits: Shogi V (Tasuke)
xx . [NDS] SimAnimals Africa (Electronic Arts Victor)
xx . [NDS] Monster Racers (Koei the Best) (Koei)

xx . [PSP] Higurashi Daybreak Portable: Mega Edition (Alchemist)
xx . [PSP] Puyo Puyo 7 (Sega)
xx . [PSP] La Pucelle: Ragnarok (Nippon Ichi Software)
xx . [PSP] L no Kisetsu: Double Pocket (5pb.)
xx . [PSP] Itsuka Kono Te ga Kegareru Toki ni: Spectral Force Legacy (Idea Factory)
xx . [PSP] Yamada Yuusuke World Puzzle: Bokura no 48 Jikan Sensou (Kadokawa Shoten)
xx . [PSP] Gakuen Heaven: Boy's Love Scramble! (NEC Interchannel)
xx . [PSP] Wild Arms: Crossfire (PSP the Best) (SCE)
xx . [PSP] Kenka Bancho 3: Conquer the Entire Nation (PSP the Best) (Spike)
xx . [PSP] Prinny: Can I Really Be the Hero? (Best Price!) (Nippon Ichi Software)

xx . [WII] Karaoke Joysound Wii DX (Hudson)
xx . [WII] Monotaro Railway 2010: Sengoku Ishin no Hero Daishuugou! no Maki (Hudson)
xx . [WII] Naruto: Shippuden Ryujinki (Takara Tomy)
xx . [WII] Puyo Puyo 7 (Sega)
xx . [WII] Rabbids Go Home (Ubisoft)
xx . [WII] SimAnimals Africa (Electronic Arts Victor)

xx . [PS3] Fallout 3 (PlayStation 3 the Best) (Bethesda Softworks)
xx . [PS3] Mercenaries 2: World in Flames (EA Best Hits) (Electronic Arts Victor)
xx . [PS3] Mirror's Edge (EA Best Hits) (Electronic Arts Victor)

xx . [360] Mushihimesama Futari Ver 1.5 (Cave)

xx . [PS2] Dynasty Warriors 5 (Koei Teiban Series) (Koei)
xx . [PS2] Nobunaga's Ambition: Tenka Sousei with Power-Up Kit (Koei Teiban Series) (Koei)
xx . [PS2] Zill O'll Infinite (Koei Teiban Series) (Koei)
xx . [PS2] Kiniro no Corda: La Corda d'Oro (Koei Teiban Series) (Koei)
xx . [PS2] .hack//G.U. Vol. 1//Rebirth (PlayStation 2 the Best) (Namco Bandai)
xx . [PS2] .hack//G.U. Vol. 2//Reminisce (PlayStation 2 the Best) (Namco Bandai)
xx . [PS2] .hack//G.U. Vol. 3//Redemption (PlayStation 2 the Best) (Namco Bandai)
xx . [PS2] Katekyoo Hitman Reborn! Forbidden Black Delta (Best Collection) (Marvelous Entertainment)
xx . [PS2] Mercenaries 2: World in Flames (EA:SY! 1980) (Electronic Arts Victor)
xx . [PS2] Daisenryaku VII Exceed (System Soft Selection) (System Soft Alpha)

 

[TunaLover]

Its not a stupid question- its been asked and speculated about many times.

I think its possible SE will/has shifted it back to the DS, which is the only possibility. I still think the odds are that it stays on the Wii (afterall, SE kept FF13 on PS3), but if we go into Spring next year and SE is announcing more DQ on DS and nothing on Wii I think we might have a hint.

I don't think that DQ is a platform depedant franchise, Wii has a big userbase in Japan what's really matter, people will buy the game regardless. It's kinda hard to see Iwata backpedaling on this monstruos announcement, with pictures, confrence and all jazz :lol

 

[farnham]

Might be a stupid question per se, but I will have to ask it anyway:

Do you think that Dragon Quest X will NOT come to Wii, even if it was announced for it?

I am sure we would all know the reasons behind this decision, if it is ever made.

well ff7 and dq 7 were announced for N64 at first as well... wouldnt be the first time Square Enix pulled support... but then again nintendo forbid them (Squaresoft that is.. Enix somehow was allowed to develop games on Nintendo Platforms) to release a game again until the GBA...

 

[charlequin]

Well, regardless of the fate of the Go, every single PSP can potentially be used to buy DD games. So, for franchises targeted at an at least partly tech-aware audience like Persona I'm not that surprised to see ~6% DD sales.

Given both Japan's specific bent away from downloadable stuff or Internet use anywhere but on a phone and the lack of any actual compelling reason for anyone to buy PSP games via DD specifically besides "wow, I'm buying in my underwear!!!", this number doesn't surprise me at all.

 

[Vinci]

I don't think that DQ is a platform depedant franchise, Wii has a big userbase in Japan what's really matter, people will buy the game regardless. It's kinda hard to see Iwata backpedaling on this monstruos announcement, with pictures, confrence and all jazz :lol

A mainline DQ isn't just another game. It's a damn national event. So yeah, I agree that it doesn't matter where it's released - its core fanbase will always buy it. The DS version might have hit some people who aren't quite so diehard, but all in all... it'll do very well.

 

[Effect]

For there to be a mass exodus, there would have to have been a mass influx...

So very true. Developers still ignored the Wii even after it continued to sell out month after month and it was clear it was taking and had taken the lead as most units sold. There was never an actual change of direction when it came to developers and there most likely will never be. Not in this generation or the next generation. Developers have this thing against Nintendo itself no matter what they do system wise it seems.

 

[m.i.s.]

Japan whats happened to you? Is there a point in releasing consoles there next gen?

Consoles became [Small Form Factor] PCs and are heading towards niche town.

 

[schuelma]

So the usually semi reliable MC leak is out..PS3 only down to about 40K and Wii down to 27K. Its usually pretty close.

 

[donny2112]

I think you already answered this, but can you remind me what your predictions are?

Basically, Worst.Legs.Ever. (for a Mario game)

Edit:
I think it was something like 300-500K FW with 800K-1m LTD.

 

[duckroll]

well ff7 and dq 7 were announced for N64 at first as well... wouldnt be the first time Square Enix pulled support... but then again nintendo forbid them (Squaresoft that is.. Enix somehow was allowed to develop games on Nintendo Platforms) to release a game again until the GBA...

Can you stop making up nonsense? If you continue making up nonsense, I will have to ban you.

 

[Kasumi1970]

It's a tragedy but i'm thankful the game was even made in the first place. This is a game that i'm devoted to buying day one even if I don't have a PS3 yet when it launches in NA.

I am with you. I plan to buy it for my friend's PS3. She loves Zelda type games, and this is a an award for her for buying the PS3 over the Wii.

 

[kinggroin]

My god @ wii sales.



Who said the PS3 would eventually fall BELOW that console again? Great to see it and it's little brother sell software well in this region. Was beginning to think Japan had completely and utterly given up on consoles.

 

[schuelma]

Basically, Worst.Legs.Ever. (for a Mario game)

Edit:
I think it was something like 300-500K FW with 800K-1m LTD.

"4-500k fw, 1-1.2m lt."

His initial guess

 

[schuelma]

Who said the PS3 would eventually fall BELOW that console again? .

Do you think its never going to fall behind the Wii from now on? It's certainly possible that the PS3 maintains a higher baseline early next year..something I frankly didn't think was possible even after the Slim was announced. But I'm pretty sure its not going to completely dominate the Wii going forward.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Do you think its never going to fall behind the Wii from now on? It's certainly possible that the PS3 maintains a higher baseline early next year..something I frankly didn't think was possible even after the Slim was announced. But I'm pretty sure its not going to completely dominate the Wii going forward.

It's impossible to dominate something when it's still trying to catch up. And selling 10,000 units over it weekly isn't going to place it into a position of dominance for a loooong time.

The more likely end, is the Japanese home console market just being significantly smaller then it was last gen.

 

[schuelma]

PSP 38,770
PS3 38,498
DSi 33,749
Wii 26,764
PSP go 6,427
DS Lite 5,036
Xbox 360 4,124
PS2 2,031

 

[faridmon]

Japan is weird this gen. That's all i can say at the moment.

 

[Tenbatsu]

MH3 at #45, how much did it sold?

 

[velvet_nitemare]

Really close there between PS3 and OG PSP.

 

[vicissitudes]

System | This Week | Last Week | YTD
-------------------------------------------------
| PS3 | 38,498 | 48,925 | 1,202,749
| WII | 26,764 | 31,810 | 1,233,353

Different this week: 11,734 (PS3)
Difference in YTD: 30,604 (Wii)

 

[kswiston]

System | This Week | Last Week | YTD
-------------------------------------------------
| PS3 | 38,498 | 48,925 | 1,202,749
| WII | 26,764 | 31,810 | 1,233,353

Different this week: 11,734 (PS3)
Difference in YTD: 30,604 (Wii)

At this rate, PS3 and Wii YTD sales will basically be equal by the end of November. It really will come down to December sales. If PS3 sales are stronger than expected in December, and Wii sales are weaker than expected, PS3 could conceivably pull ahead for the year. right now, I am going to say that the odds of that happening are 3:1 in favour of the Wii winning the year. We will know for sure after NSMB Wii launches.

Wii performance after price cut

week	 2007	  2008	  2009
 40	 20.704	 25.330	 35.392
 41	 20.575	 22.877	 30.741
 42	 24.932	 26.024	 29.965
 43	 27.502	 24.292	 25.917
 44	 37.617	 23.123	 28.888
 45	 34.546	 24.726	 31.810
 46	 36.230	 26.787	 26.764 (new)
 47	 54.362	 35.298	
 48	 74.764	 49.848	
 49	115.057	 56.702	
 50	170.558	 91.641	
 51	232.907	131.054	
 52	152.209	134.958

So far it's outperforming both 2007 and 2008.

This is why I said last week that it was too early to predict Wii's 2009 holiday performance from the post-2009 price drop data. 2007 has pulled ahead of 2009 again, and week 46 this year is no better than week 46 last year.

 

[Souldriver]

So why exactly did the DS sales plummet?