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Media Create Sales: Sep 14 - 20, 2009
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SecretBonusPoint
Banned
Seeing a GRiN game there, Terminator, that reminds me, did Bionic Commando ever come out over there? If it did, I assume it did absolutely awful!
charlequin
Banned
Bebpo said:
I don't think that's "safe" to say at all, especially considering that I'm certain a number of these PS3 purchases are double-dipping, much like people double-dipped on the DC of ToDR.
We've established that Namco has no fucking clue what they're doing and at best a questionable skill at determining what will actually make money, but given the dev-cost delta I think any rational publisher would never look back if Graces hits 300k or above. (And if not, I'd still peg the PSP as a better cost:benefit option going forward.)
(Again, I'm not seriously predicting we definitely won't see another HD Tales, I'm mostly just making fun of stupid Scamco.)
Dragona Akehi
Retired
It's Anahita, Mistress of the Waters.HK-47 said:
Paracelsus
Member
charlequin said:
Huh? Creating an HD engine just for a game sounds like very, very stupid reasoning. tri-Ace with their engine made three games already, one of which is about to see a re-release.
mujun said:
I dont think some people understand the (best) means budget rerelease.
Though if we look at he overall rerelease sales the bump is not really moving alot extra software. MGS4(best) and others that launched with the slim are dead and gone from list and even when they charted was near the bottom.
AranhaHunter
Banned
charlequin said:
Considering Vesperia will sell 300k+ on PS3 alone, I think we will probably see another Tales game on it. Also, do you think we'll see Tales of Graces eventually ported to PSP? I can't help but think it'll eventually happen.
laserbeam said:
dead is such strong word... didnt MGS4 sell/ship 160k in Q1 2009? It is wrong to think that when game does not chart, it does not sell at all... proven many times before, i think even we have even some stats to back it up (percentage of top 50 out of complete software sales?). Of course, this is not just true for PS3 games, but every game in general.
besides, what people were pointing out is resurgence in overall ps3 software sales, which means new owners are picking ps3 (something that was called in doubt before - but i doubt it will anymore due to many other factors).
Sho_Nuff82
Member
shinshero said:
Considering there are probably a few double dippers in the PS3 sales group, isn't a staggered launch the best bet to maximize sales given the disparity in userbase? As long as they don't wait until the second group has completely lost interest.
AranhaHunter said:
Tales of Destiny PS2 is a more likely candidate for a PSP port than Graces probably is.
They seem to have changed their position on the PSP from "that thing they throw ports on" to "that thing they throw spinoffs on" anyway, once the ports started to sell poorly and the spinoffs started to get popular, so I don't think they'll be porting anything else to it.
cvxfreak said:
http://dubai.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ghard/1253932534/
It's in posts 287 and 293.
Edit:
bttb got it.
lowlylowlycook
Member
So what's the record sales for a "value priced edition" anywhere in the world? A million really seems like a lot for me given how front loaded most games are in sales.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Based on the latest Famitsu hardware numbers...
PSP comparisons: After 249 weeks, PSP is where PS2 was at 196.7 weeks (December 5, 2003), where DS was at 104.5 weeks (November 30, 2006), and where GBA was at 168.7 weeks (June 11, 2004).
X360 comparisons: After 197 weeks, X360 is where GCN was at 19.4 weeks (January 23, 2002), where PS3 was at 41.1 weeks (August 20, 2007), and where Wii was at 6.0 weeks (January 6, 2007).
PS3 comparisons: After 149 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 52.8 weeks (March 3, 2001), where PSP was at 77.9 weeks (June 4, 2006), where GCN was at 168.9 weeks (December 5, 2004), and where Wii was at 40.8 weeks (September 8, 2007).
So PS3 has reached where PS2 was after one year on the market.
Wii comparisons: After 146 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 102.7 weeks (March 7, 2003), where DS was at 78.9 weeks (June 3, 2006), where PS2 was at 123.7 weeks (July 12, 2002), and where PSP was at 172.6 weeks (March 27, 2008).
DSi comparisons: After 46 weeks, DSi is where GBASP was at 63.6 weeks (April 29, 2004) and where DSL was at 22.3 weeks (August 1, 2006).
Based on last week's Media Create hardware numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 79.1 / 20.9 bring total shares to 68.5 / 31.5. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 711.1 weeks (May 8, 2023).
X360 vs PS3: Weekly shares of 8.9 / 91.1 bring total shares to 24.2 / 75.8. If PS3 stopped selling and X360 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 484.4 weeks (January 2, 2019).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 75.4 / 24.6 bring total shares to 29.4 / 70.6. At this week's rates, PS3 would catch up to Wii in 144.3 weeks (June 27, 2012). If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 97.1 weeks (August 1, 2011).
Week over week, portables are a little up and consoles are a little down...but nothing has changed drastically.
Through the first thirty-eight weeks of the year, overall sales are down. However, the systems can be split into camps of 3 up and 3 down. Here's how the year-to-date year-over-year percents stand as of now.
Wii: -53.2%
DSL+DSi: +15.2%
PS2: -53.2%
PS3: +35.1%
PSP: -45.7%
X360: +68.2%
Home hardware: -29.3%
Portable hardware: -18.0%
Sum of all hardware: -22.5%
Last year:
This year:
Famitsu Software Stuff
Pokémon Heart Gold and Soul Silver (3698) start off very strong. They don't only outsell what FireRed and LeafGreen (1558) did their first week, but additionally what they sold in their second and third weeks.
Sloane and MacHale's Mysterious Story 2 is certainly starting off much worse than the first.
Looking at what's become one of everyone's favorite comparisons, in its seventh week Monster Hunter 3 sells slightly less than Dynasty Warriors 5 did (10.1K to 11.6K), but is still fairly ahead overall (891K to 859K).
Professor Layton and the Last Time Travel (3293) pops back in. It's continued on pretty steadily other than the slight bump that brought it into the Top 30 this week, so there's no real change on how it compares to the first (271) or second (2673) Layton games.
Famitsu Software Pie note: Thanks to the Pokémon remakes, DS had 84.5% of software sales this week. This makes it the second highest percentage DS has ever had, slightly behind the 88.8% it had with Dragon Quest IX a couple months ago.
PSP comparisons: After 249 weeks, PSP is where PS2 was at 196.7 weeks (December 5, 2003), where DS was at 104.5 weeks (November 30, 2006), and where GBA was at 168.7 weeks (June 11, 2004).
X360 comparisons: After 197 weeks, X360 is where GCN was at 19.4 weeks (January 23, 2002), where PS3 was at 41.1 weeks (August 20, 2007), and where Wii was at 6.0 weeks (January 6, 2007).
PS3 comparisons: After 149 weeks, PS3 is where PS2 was at 52.8 weeks (March 3, 2001), where PSP was at 77.9 weeks (June 4, 2006), where GCN was at 168.9 weeks (December 5, 2004), and where Wii was at 40.8 weeks (September 8, 2007).
So PS3 has reached where PS2 was after one year on the market.
Wii comparisons: After 146 weeks, Wii is where GBA was at 102.7 weeks (March 7, 2003), where DS was at 78.9 weeks (June 3, 2006), where PS2 was at 123.7 weeks (July 12, 2002), and where PSP was at 172.6 weeks (March 27, 2008).
DSi comparisons: After 46 weeks, DSi is where GBASP was at 63.6 weeks (April 29, 2004) and where DSL was at 22.3 weeks (August 1, 2006).
Based on last week's Media Create hardware numbers...
DS vs PSP: Weekly shares of 79.1 / 20.9 bring total shares to 68.5 / 31.5. If DS stopped selling and PSP continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 711.1 weeks (May 8, 2023).
X360 vs PS3: Weekly shares of 8.9 / 91.1 bring total shares to 24.2 / 75.8. If PS3 stopped selling and X360 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 484.4 weeks (January 2, 2019).
PS3 vs Wii: Weekly shares of 75.4 / 24.6 bring total shares to 29.4 / 70.6. At this week's rates, PS3 would catch up to Wii in 144.3 weeks (June 27, 2012). If Wii stopped selling and PS3 continued at this week's rate, it would catch up in 97.1 weeks (August 1, 2011).
Week over week, portables are a little up and consoles are a little down...but nothing has changed drastically.
Through the first thirty-eight weeks of the year, overall sales are down. However, the systems can be split into camps of 3 up and 3 down. Here's how the year-to-date year-over-year percents stand as of now.
Wii: -53.2%
DSL+DSi: +15.2%
PS2: -53.2%
PS3: +35.1%
PSP: -45.7%
X360: +68.2%
Home hardware: -29.3%
Portable hardware: -18.0%
Sum of all hardware: -22.5%
Last year:
This year:
Famitsu Software Stuff
Pokémon Heart Gold and Soul Silver (3698) start off very strong. They don't only outsell what FireRed and LeafGreen (1558) did their first week, but additionally what they sold in their second and third weeks.
Sloane and MacHale's Mysterious Story 2 is certainly starting off much worse than the first.
Looking at what's become one of everyone's favorite comparisons, in its seventh week Monster Hunter 3 sells slightly less than Dynasty Warriors 5 did (10.1K to 11.6K), but is still fairly ahead overall (891K to 859K).
Professor Layton and the Last Time Travel (3293) pops back in. It's continued on pretty steadily other than the slight bump that brought it into the Top 30 this week, so there's no real change on how it compares to the first (271) or second (2673) Layton games.
Famitsu Software Pie note: Thanks to the Pokémon remakes, DS had 84.5% of software sales this week. This makes it the second highest percentage DS has ever had, slightly behind the 88.8% it had with Dragon Quest IX a couple months ago.
Moor-Angol
Banned
cvxfreak said:
i think we couldn't count... wii fit plus is a different game from its predecessor
oh i noticed Enterbrain tracked the new Korg "game" for DS, iirc the first one was not tracked
grandjedi6
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common opinion with who? Butthurt Sony fans? I think most rational people expected Vesperia PS3 to outsell Vesperia 360, even with the year delay. You know, just like Symphonia PS2 outsold Symphonia Gamecube by a large margin.dfyb said:
Kurosaki Ichigo
Member
It doesn't seem Silver Week helped software on the weekend. Comparing famitsu first day to first week gives nearly all titles a 150% figure, which is average sure, but nothing did stand out with a 200% or so weekend growth. Only Ys has a slightly better figure, and the other trackers don't even agree with Famitsu :/
Bullet comments to follow my first day notes:
· TOV PS3 keeps above all post-ps2 tales, and just like first day you have to go back to November 2006 to find a better first week in Tales of Destiny on PS2 (256k).
I think it'd be interesting to note that the last brand new Tales on PS2, Abyss, did 368k first week in the middle of December back in 2005.
· Pawapuro Portable 4 was above 3 in the first day, but it falls behind in the first week, by 1k that is. 109k vs 108k.
· Yugioh 4 debuts lower than 3, 64k vs 52k, although still way higher than the first two.
· Ys 7 does 43k, which despite doing the best first day for a Falcom PSP title, its not the best first week. Legend of Heroes the 3rd did 49k.
· Idolmaster DS is right between the 1st and 2nd 360 games, 25k vs 33k vs 48k.
· Forever Blue 2 seems to have done just like the first, 18k.
· Tears to Tiara Gaiden does way below the first, 34k vs 16k. Bit strange case, its a gaiden but the original was a pc port, this isn't, I think.
· Hitman 2 PSP does below 1, 24k vs 16k. There's a gazillion Hitman games but it doesn't seem to hit much higher than this.
· 428 PSP 16k is just a hair below the PS3 one, which did 17k. Funnily enough, combined its right around the Wii original.
· House of the Dead Overkill does less than 2&3 on Wii (14k) and 3 on Xbox (7k)
· Nothing else seem note-worthy...
Bullet comments to follow my first day notes:
· TOV PS3 keeps above all post-ps2 tales, and just like first day you have to go back to November 2006 to find a better first week in Tales of Destiny on PS2 (256k).
I think it'd be interesting to note that the last brand new Tales on PS2, Abyss, did 368k first week in the middle of December back in 2005.
· Pawapuro Portable 4 was above 3 in the first day, but it falls behind in the first week, by 1k that is. 109k vs 108k.
· Yugioh 4 debuts lower than 3, 64k vs 52k, although still way higher than the first two.
· Ys 7 does 43k, which despite doing the best first day for a Falcom PSP title, its not the best first week. Legend of Heroes the 3rd did 49k.
· Idolmaster DS is right between the 1st and 2nd 360 games, 25k vs 33k vs 48k.
· Forever Blue 2 seems to have done just like the first, 18k.
· Tears to Tiara Gaiden does way below the first, 34k vs 16k. Bit strange case, its a gaiden but the original was a pc port, this isn't, I think.
· Hitman 2 PSP does below 1, 24k vs 16k. There's a gazillion Hitman games but it doesn't seem to hit much higher than this.
· 428 PSP 16k is just a hair below the PS3 one, which did 17k. Funnily enough, combined its right around the Wii original.
· House of the Dead Overkill does less than 2&3 on Wii (14k) and 3 on Xbox (7k)
· Nothing else seem note-worthy...
Captain Smoker
Member
Next weeks releases
thestopsign
Member
No first day sales?
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Well, GameCube had that rockin' August 2003 with the ~200K opening weeks for Tales and FFCC.Dragona Akehi said:
schuelma said:
Announcement on the 24th, so it'll have 3-4 days of non-weekend sales. The following week, it'll have four days of sales with price drop, weekend, and Wii Fit+ releasing (could that be why Wii Fit is precipitously dropping lately?). %-wise, PS3 will probably still beat it, if not in absolute units, too.
AdventureRacing
Member
gkrykewy said:
Outside of a completely random guess how could anything lead you to think this? The wii price drop still hasn't even happened and the PS3 is still riding it's price drop hike.
