HypocrisyGalore
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I highly doubt this is indicative of the PS4 bombing in Japan.
It's stupid to assume that the sales trajectory this system is showing will suddenly inspire third parties to put Japan-centric content on the system.
I fail to see how this is possible. All three seem unlikely to get the support from third parties needed to male it successful in Japan, though Nintendo has first party content they can rely on.
The bombing of the PS4 has signaled the end of consoles in Japan.
SSD had this promotion
translation:
1000yen upgrade for owners of Soul Sacrifice.
Also, owners of Soul Sacrifice with PS+ can play delta for Free.
Considering that, I think the game sold fine.
wat
Why even release Delta at retail if they're going to give it away for free?
a. True, but Sony has to do something as fast as possible, otherwise...never heard of self-fulfilling prophecies?
b. ...PS4, eh? Not 3DS/PS3/Vita? Not saying that PS4 can't be good for Japanese third parties, far from it, but the main choice, when considering the other ones? The point about Western sales is good, but it depends on the title.
So where are all these big console titles going to go huh:
FF, KH, MGS, RE, GTA, Yakuza, Tales etc
You've gone off the deep end making hyperbolic comments like the one in bold. Hard to take you seriously now.
I doubt Japanese games like FF or KH will make the PS4 go above and beyond the Wii U, since those franchises are as big as Mario Kart and Smash Bros (I know MK is veeery install base dependant but still).
What will make the PS4 sell more than the Wii U is the western franchises that Sony has secured.
And poor 3DS, Nintendo needs to release a 3DSi pronto...or a smartphone :3.
It's because 2012 had AC:NL and a new superior model.
I fail to see how this is possible. All three seem unlikely to get the support from third parties needed to male it successful in Japan, though Nintendo has first party content they can rely on.
Oh my god, when I started reading that first statement, I never expected that second statement lol...Give PS4 some time. It wil go lower.
wat
Why even release Delta at retail if they're going to give it away for free?
As ridiculous as it sounds, there's actually a chance that Xbox One might sell better than the PS4 in Japan if MS moneyhats all the japanese devs again.
It will be like the FFXIII effect.
The franchises will see a drop in popularity because of the low install base.
You know that PS3 sold horribly at the beginning in japan right? (WiiU is actually still slighly ahead of it launch aligned..) And yet it has crawled its way to 10m+ (well soon it will be over 10m) across the years. I really don't see why PS4 couldn't do the same. It's exactly same situation. No software at first but the heavy hitters came and bumped the install base and with that came the smaller devs and so PS3 actually had pretty solid support all around.
It will be like the FFXIII effect.
The franchises will see a drop in popularity because of the low install base.
What can they do? The game will not be ready for release this year.
GTA did better on PS3
Yakuza did better on PS3
RE did similarly or better on PS3
Tales did better on PS3
MGS did the same on PS3
FF did 400k less on PS3
This was despite having half the install base. The fact is that even if you increase the install base that does not guarantee an increase in sales and vice versa since very few games have universal appeal across the platform's install base.
Also your pulling ass-umptions that PS4 will have a lower install base than the PS3.
SSD had this promotion
translation:
1000yen upgrade for owners of Soul Sacrifice.
Also, owners of Soul Sacrifice with PS+ can play delta for Free.
Considering that, I think the game sold fine.
Why are Pokemons sales so low?
lol wtf. For free? That is crazy. Hope they do that here as well lol.SSD had this promotion
1000yen upgrade for owners of Soul Sacrifice.
Also, owners of Soul Sacrifice with PS+ can play delta for Free.
Considering that, I think the game sold fine.
I'll summarize your point easily.This was despite having half the install base. The fact is that even if you increase the install base that does not guarantee an increase in sales and vice versa since very few games have universal appeal across the platform's install base.
Also your pulling ass-umptions that PS4 will have a lower install base than the PS3.
OK, this makes much more sense. That is crazy to give PS+ members Delta for free.Your translation is wrong. It actually says Soul Sacrifice is 1,000 yen for a limited time, and it is free for ps+ members during that time. Delta is regular price.
Well, it's the first in the series to have a digital option. Not that I think that'd have a particularly big impact, but it's a factor.
So FFXIII-2 was only 400k lower than FFX-2?
Huh, the more you know.
The franchises will see a drop in popularity because of the low install base.
Yakuza 1 and 2 sold a lot more on PS2 than any PS3 Yakuza, at least if you include their Best re-relase.GTA did better on PS3
Yakuza did better on PS3
RE did similarly or better on PS3
Tales did better on PS3
MGS did the same on PS3
FF did 400k less on PS3
That other thread is atrocious - there's some guy talking about Japanese interest rates. It feels so safe and warm in here.
Call those 'people' out then. Most users including me said it would sell low in the first year or so and pick up once the software transition happens from pubs/devs. Japan is not the priority at this moment for sony. They have given every indication that this is true. Short term Western markets take priority and software as well as stock allocation shows this
It's not a full sequel. It's Soul Sacrifice with an included expansion pack. If you already have Soul Sac, it makes sense that you are only charged an amount adequate for an expansion pack.wat
Why even release Delta at retail if they're going to give it away for free?
No talk of Kirby, eh? Isn't this his best handheld showing in a while?
So where are all these big console titles going to go huh:
FF, KH, MGS, RE, GTA, Yakuza, Tales etc
Onto the PS4 chalk board. You know it's coming.
It's selling better than Kirby Mass Attack, but Mass Attack wasn't a traditional Kirby game. Super Star Deluxe on the other hand sold more than a million copies, which Kirby 3DS is very unlikely to reach. It's doing good, but nothing out of the ordinary.
I was only taking into account FF13. You can take FF13-2 in account as well but thats beside the point:
This statement you made about the franchises I listed:
Turned out to be hilariously wrong.
Hilariously wrong versus the numbers you're pulling out of your ass.
Yakuza 1 and 2 did in fact do better than any yakuza on the ps3. Additionally, as someone else already pointed out, no PS3 Tales game has matched Destiny 2.
'Hilariously wrong' is a pretty fitting term.
No ?
The best selling PS3 title sold around 200k less than the best selling PS2 title, there isn't a single other PS3 title above 450k when there are 3 on PS2 (Rebirth, Abyss, Destiny 2)
Tales did better on PS3
Tales of Xillia is something like 50k away from Destiny 2. Dat huge decline.
SSD had this promotion
translation:
1000yen upgrade for owners of Soul Sacrifice.
Also, owners of Soul Sacrifice with PS+ can play delta for Free.
Considering that, I think the game sold fine.
Your translation is wrong. It actually says Soul Sacrifice is 1,000 yen for a limited time, and it is free for ps+ members during that time. Delta is regular price.
Yakuza 1 and 2 sold a lot more on PS2 than any PS3 Yakuza, at least if you include their Best re-relase.
Tales of Destiny 2 sold 750k units on PS2 - that's more than any PS3 Tales.
Hilariously wrong versus the numbers you're pulling out of your ass.
Yakuza 1 and 2 did in fact do better than any yakuza on the ps3. Additionally, as someone else already pointed out, no PS3 Tales game has matched Destiny 2.
'Hilariously wrong' is a pretty fitting term.
No ?
The best selling PS3 title sold around 200k less than the best selling PS2 title, there isn't a single other PS3 title above 450k when there are 3 on PS2 (Rebirth, Abyss, Destiny 2)
PS3 first 15 weeks
81.639 / 81.639
42.099 / 123.738
32.662 / 156.400
31.436 / 187.836
50.171 / 238.007
70.942 / 308.949
76.882 / 385.831
71.727 / 457.558
69.944 / 527.501
25.531 / 553.032
21.105 / 574.137
19.996 / 594.133
18.727 / 612.860
23.431 / 636.291
20.676 / 656.967
PS4 first 2 weeks
309.154 / 309.154
65.685 / 374.839
My bad, I thought it's obvious that it would be a limited time offer and not forever, but yeah I should have put that in. Sorry for the guys that misunderstood.Your translation is wrong. It actually says Soul Sacrifice is 1,000 yen for a limited time, and it is free for ps+ members during that time. Delta is regular price.
wow PSV almost outsold 3DS
No ?
The best selling PS3 title sold around 200k less than the best selling PS2 title, there isn't a single other PS3 title above 450k when there are 3 on PS2 (Rebirth, Abyss, Destiny 2)
Don't act like there weren't gaffers lol'ing at Wii u #'s saying those numbers were in no way indicative of the home console market in japan and that japan was waiting for the ps4. Well it's here now and the numbers don't look so hot but it's ok I guess because now it's switched from 'Japan is waiting for the ps4' to 'Japan is waiting for ps4 games'.