ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Dead or Alive port, Muramasa port and Sei Madou Monogatari?
Honestly, I don't think they will have any impact at all.
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Media Create Sales: Week 11, 2013 (Mar 11 - Mar 17)
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Dead or Alive port, Muramasa port and Sei Madou Monogatari?
Honestly, I don't think they will have any impact at all.
Bruno MB
Member
Probably the next big overperformer 3DS Nintendo title after Fire Emblem: Awakening and Animal Crossing: New Leaf.
Is it safe to say Nintendo's B/C-Tier franchises are getting better sales now?
pieatorium
Member
The last Handheld Animal crossing sold over 5 million I wouldn't call it a b teir
electroplankton
Banned
frankie_baby
Member
Also Calciobit overperformed
how much did that manage in the end?
electroplankton
Banned
Last LTD we have is around 40k, but it seems it sold more off the chart.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I think you're undershooting both pretty bad there. I'd expect Muramasa to easily outperform the Wii original, and I can't see any way DQX doesn't at least pass 100k.
I realistically expect somewhere inbetween 25-30k though.
Edit: Wait, it seems One Piece released all alone this week, nevermind my predictions then
Yes. Regular 3DS. A pink and a blue.
Edit: Light blue and Gloss pink.
So many hardware bundles and colors have been released for the 3DS.
Fire Emblem
SRW
DQVII
MH3G
DQMonsters
Zelda OOT
KH3D
SM3D Land
SD Generation 3D
New Love Plus
Metal Gear Solid 3D
And then, there are like 15 different colors between 3DS and 3DS LL.
That must be a record for a system in the first two years.
frankie_baby
Member
whats crazy is that even with that long list i'm sure you're forgetting some
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
I miss your better half.
Exterminieren
Banned
Well, there's the Animal Crossing bundle, the Pikachu XL, the Charizard XL, the Tomodatchi Collection bundle on the way and I'm still sure we're forgetting some.
Father_Brain
Banned
I mostly agree with this post, but I think the bolded is questionable; it suggests a correlation between niche and major publishers' platform strategies for which there's, at best, limited factual evidence. (The first bolded bit also implies that it's only recent news that niche publishers are continuing to support Vita, which I don't agree with, either.)
I would suggest instead that the longer a platform goes without major third-party support being announced, the less likely it is that it'll ever materialize. This applies to both Vita and Wii U, of course.
EDIT: Wait, is the third bolded bit seriously questioning whether the big first-party Nintendo titles will sell as well as Vita's "major" releases? Crazy talk if so.
The Shin Megami Tensei IV one and the Disney Magic Castle one also.
test_account
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He just replied to if the Vita sales could see an increase from last week, using the examples he gave. He didnt say that the Vita would outsell the 3DS.
I've seen several of cases where people use Comgnet, Amazon rankings and small retail muslings, saying that a game will sell great based on these things. Most recent example is Luigi's Mansion 2. Someone thinks that it will sell amazingly based on anecdotal evidence. It might end up selling amazingly, but i dont see this as being any different from someone saying that the Vita could increase in hardware sales next week based on those things. Both things are based on anecdotal evidence only. What people think is most realistic to happen is a seperate thing though.
Have anyone said that they believe that Amazon rankings is a good representation of the general japanse gaming market? I thought everyone here knew that it was anecdotal evidence only.
Hopefully, next week we get Media Create top 500 2012 and we can check the numbers.
Magicpaint
Member
Huh? Dragon Quest VII bundle?
I think that's an error.
And I counted 15 colours. Be interesting how the regular 3DS does this week as the first new colours for a long long time since the LL was released and has led I believe every week.
Sorry, I thought there was a bundle.
I expected one, considering almost any big 3DS third party release has one.
electroplankton
Banned
I just pointed out the sentence about Vita overcoming 3DS on Amazon, as it was the sign of something more.
500K shipment isn't only for PS3, where did this come from? The game will have a big decline, first day retailer reports made that clear, nothing can prevent it.
I think the only thing we've seen among larger titles so far is that several publishers seem to be willing to port their less technically intensive PS3 games over.
Sammy Samusu
Member
SONY WILL NEVER BE ON TOP!
Father_Brain
Banned
Per my edit above, I think I may have given L Thammy's post more credit than it deserved. Not to dispute that Wii U is in serious, serious, serious trouble, but the notion that 3D Mario, Mario Kart, or SSB4 will have any trouble far outselling Vita's "major" releases is way beyond absurd.
But hey, it's not bad to dream anyway
Sheesh! MC sales thread is a serious business, no place for dreams, optimism and wishful thinking.
;P
test_account
XP-39C²
I understand, fair enough. Although i dont think anyone said earlier that it was a sign of Vita outselling the 3DS next week, that is what i mostly wanted to mention earlier =)
FFXI's fifth expansion.
Exterminieren
Banned
This is a thread for statistics and figures. There are plenty of other places on GAF for blind optimism and wishful thinking.
Bollocks. This thread is always full of speculation and wishful thinking in all directions.
metalslimer
Member
Please....
zomgbbqftw
Banned
:lol
grimshawish
Banned
Now thats wishful thinking.
Exterminieren
Banned
Alright, let me rephrase that. Wishful thinking's alright, as long as you can accept people are going to smack it down with actual facts and statistics. Wishful thinking without expectation of argument isn't likely.
You have the right to optimism. You don't really have the right to have that optimism unchallenged, unlike on some other threads on GAF.
MasterSheen
Member
Do sales usually go up during spring break?
metalslimer
Member
Thought japan didnt have that form of spring break and the next big week is golden week
Is that what I implied? My thinking was just that recent announcements suggest that games are still being greenlit, games being greenlit suggest an increased chance of a game being released that helps move some systems. I wasn't trying to say that Dragon Quest XI will be Vita exclusive or that anything like that.
Hasn't the number of Vita announcements increased recently? I admit, I haven't been been keeping score.
So, to follow what you're saying, only major announcements will be influential (but only on gamers, not on niche developers)? I think that's fair. I think it's also important that the major announcements be exclusive.
For example, God Eater and Pirate Warriors have both exceeded a half million in the past, but no one is forced to buy a Vita to play the new ones.
Maybe I was unclear. Direct your attention back to the beginning of that post.
I think that the known factors for the Wii U are significantly better than the Vita's. That includes 3D Mario, Smash Bros, and Mario Kart: we know they're coming out even if we don't have details yet. What I'm questioning is the power of the unknown factors: games we don't know about. The games we can only guess at.
I don't think I used the phrase "big first party Nintendo titles" or "major Vita releases" when referring to the Wii U. Let's say that Nintendo decides to fund another hardcore action game akin The Wonderful 101 or Sin and Punishment. Let's say they make a sequel to The Last Story, to Pandora's Tower, to Zangeki no Reginleiv. A new Excite game, a new Battalion Wars. Are those guaranteed to have hundreds of thousands of sales apiece? Am I crazy for believing that they may not?
The Mario I was talking about in this case aren't 3D Mario or Kario Kart. It's the other spinoffs, or maybe sequels to these games. Admittedly, I totally forgot how big Mario Tennis in particular is. Mario Tennis U will probably be bigger than almost anything that will appear on the Vita. I think it's possible that a Vita game might be able to top Mario & Sonic U.
Moreover, look at what the Wii U's third-party lineup is like now and try to imagine their third-party lineup in the future based off that information. Now do the same for the Vita. Which of the two lineups you imagine generating more sales? I would sooner place a bet on niche titles than on ports of older Western games.
Yes, we have. Yesterday school ended, and this week we have spring break until april.
I expect some games to go up a little, but less than Golden Week, because is just schools, not enterprises.
Hero of Legend
Member
I'm wondering and I thought this is an ideal place to ask.
We know the 3DS trumps PSP with its shading capabilities (basically PS360-capable according to Capcom when they unveiled MT Framework Mobile).
However, do we know how much, if at all better the 3DS' poly count push and texturing capabilities are over PSP? Is it similar to the point where PSP up-ports don't really need more polys and better textures as it's close enough?
We know shadows are more capable on 3DS (but utilized poorly in MH, way too pixelated ).
I'm interested in a simple comparison in various areas that 3DS does alongside PSP, Wii, and PS360, because 3DS seems to excel and be identical, and even possibly behind in areas in each category (depending on platform compared, obviously never actually better or on par with PS360, just on a comparable level).
Like polys and textures are behind Wii IIRC.
We know the 3DS trumps PSP with its shading capabilities (basically PS360-capable according to Capcom when they unveiled MT Framework Mobile).
However, do we know how much, if at all better the 3DS' poly count push and texturing capabilities are over PSP? Is it similar to the point where PSP up-ports don't really need more polys and better textures as it's close enough?
We know shadows are more capable on 3DS (but utilized poorly in MH, way too pixelated
).I'm interested in a simple comparison in various areas that 3DS does alongside PSP, Wii, and PS360, because 3DS seems to excel and be identical, and even possibly behind in areas in each category (depending on platform compared, obviously never actually better or on par with PS360, just on a comparable level
).Like polys and textures are behind Wii IIRC.
Father_Brain
Banned
Okay, the latter part of this makes a good deal more sense than what I thought you were saying. Sorry if I misinterpreted. I could see Wii U third-party titles outselling niche titles on Vita, but if so, it probably wouldn't be a large difference.
Re: recent Vita announcements, I'd just be more hesitant to draw any correlation at all between niche publishers' support and that of those that have been demonstrably more bearish on Vita (SE, Konami, Capcom, nearly all Western publishers). There have been moderately positve signs recently for Capcom's and Ubisoft's Wii U support (even with the Rayman delay), but those haven't made me more optimistic about support from any other publishers.
Thank you.
I don't know how it can be interpreted any other way. You can't say based on the chart, VITA is selling great but we can't judge 3DS sales performance using the same chart.
My reply was simply to point out the logic in this post was flawed. How does "two vita models are in the top 15 on amazon chart" indicate that vita hardware is selling better than last week? If we can use the chart to say VITA is selling better than last week, couldn't we come to the same conclusion that VITA is outselling 3DS this week? If it is "clear the 3ds is not going to drop below 60k", how does the chart show that VITA will sell 40-50K?
Moor-Angol
Banned
there are more than 40,000 teams in the official charts, so numbers should be more higher, perhaps 50k or more
i'm still playing it, bought in August, over 130 hours on it
in February Nintendo hold a tournament, so i presume people is still playing (and sometimes i still find someone with Street Pass)
anyway, on thursday at Yodobashi Akiba 7 Vita models out of 8 were out of stock, the only one available was the black wifi/3g