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Media Create Sales: Week 2, 2012 (Jan 09 - Jan 15)
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No, it's from Gung-Ho. Developed by Game Arts.
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Sony, I am disappoint. They've spent so much effort trying to replicate Halo's success in the west that they forgot to try to shore up the home front. It's like they assumed Japan will always buy their hardware no matter what.
It's two generations too late to be arrogant.
Phantasy Star Portable - 671,079
Phantasy Star Portable 2 - 589,933
Phantasy Star Portable 2 Infinity - 376,534
God Eater - 634,645
God Eater Burst - 419,626
Kurosaki Ichigo first noticed the 1 unit difference, but as of this week there's now a 2 unit difference between adding weekly sales and the LTD reported by 4Gamer for MH3G.
It's starting to annoy me. I don't even want to check past weekly tops because I'll probably find out that's been happening since they started posting sales in 2010.
It's starting to annoy me. I don't even want to check past weekly tops because I'll probably find out that's been happening since they started posting sales in 2010.
That's been happening for years. You'll notice the same thing just this week with SM3DL, Just Dance, etc. I speculated years ago here on GAF that Media Create actually extrapolates their projections out to full decimals, but they only report whole numbers. So obviously, the decimals add up over time and cause differences with the rounded off whole numbers.
Wow! Didn't realize both God Eater and PSP had topped 600k sales. Now I truly am curious if the Vita is going to see the next Phantasy Star Portable installment.
I never noticed until now. hehe
With software that is. I had noticed it with hardware and thought too the reason was probably on the usage of the extrapolation formula.
DCharlie
And even i am moderately surprised
God Eater 2 is coming to the PSP this year.
hahaha.
especially one with expensive (sold out) media for downloading! They probably just want to make sure they can store 16/32 gig of save files and PSP games that they downlo... oh wait! Maaaaybe people have been downloading stuff -before- Vita?!?
I think it's just an idea to have some figures out there to see exactly how things are doing or else peoples D M E and O keys are going to be f*cked.
Actually gyro's + AR + 2x touchscreen would give very interesting game mechanics to a Shenmue game.
In real life chicken races.
StreetsAhead
Member
Probably something like 'Hey, stealing games wholesale is immoral and benefits no one in the industry in the long run. We should stop giving people the chance to do it.'
Nevertheless it would've helped them top the media-sales chart, right?!
StreetsAhead
Member
Games people want to play would work better. Note that the 3DS is still not hacked and is selling magnitudes better.
This is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. The fact that people would only purchase a system if they can pirate games is fucking stupid, and those who do should quit the hobby.
Anyway, it was a big for USED hardware sales.
walking fiend
Member
You don't get it, do you? The incentive to pirate on portable has always been having all the games on the go instead of bulking all those UMDs.
It's already setting the charts on fire, it's just that PSN sales ain't included
specialguy
Banned
Didn't PSP go through a similar "dead" phase before picking up eventually to modestly successful sales?
However, PSP didn't bomb so fast out of the gate I assume?
I dont know, is there any software? I dont think Uncharted is a system seller in Japan.
electroplankton
Banned
In your opinion, did Sony expect such results from PSVita? Did the company forecast a very slow start while PSP selling quite well?
PSP never did this bad, which is why the Vita has now fallen behind the launch-aligned sales of the PSP and will continue to fall further behind.
The revival of PSP hardware sales can also be directly correlated to new releases of MH, especially when MHP2G came out.
The PSP was revived both because of MH and because it held up until then; the base hardware was powerful enough that newer revisions could look like new handhelds with retrocompatibility; and, most of all, there was no alternative portable platform for the sort of games it had that sold after MH (at least none for which significant development effort was necessary in order to replicate them).
Vita could still pull it off without a new MH or an equivalent system-selling exclusive, but that'd require at least a slew of games that couldn't be made for the competing platforms (including cellphones) with comparable budget and sales expectations, which means something that exploits its unique hardware features, raw power, or brand recognition.
Vita could still pull it off without a new MH or an equivalent system-selling exclusive, but that'd require at least a slew of games that couldn't be made for the competing platforms (including cellphones) with comparable budget and sales expectations, which means something that exploits its unique hardware features, raw power, or brand recognition.
NeonZ
Member
The difference between the PS3's and PSP's weaker phases to the Vita's current situation is that, even through them, those systems still managed to keep decent software support from third parties, which eventually allowed them to reach a point where they became viable (Well, for the PSP, only in Japan...).
So far, the Vita seems significantly weaker in that regard. For all the comments about easily porting PS3 games to it, that doesn't seem to be happening generally right now.
I don't know know why you guys act so shocked about the sells. People in general want bargains and that's what the 3DS is. There's an 80 dollar difference. It's really all about the price and luckly for Sony, the Vita's parts are not custom and will be in phones. So they have the wiggle room. And where's the people that claimed handhelds don't need console games. What's MH? If it weren't for the PSP MH wouldn't even be worth mentioning.
MH, as Animal Crossing, is a type of game that is greatly enhanced by local communication thus portable system are ideal target for those franchises.
slaughterking
Member
I imagine at some point someone at Sony woke up in the middle of the night, basically standing in his bed asking himself "What the fuck are we even doing here?".
I'm sure the expectations were just modest if Sony has any footing in reality, but I don't think these expectations could've possibly been as low as the Vita is selling right now. Otherwise you would have to wonder why they even bother releasing a system that virtually nobody is interested in at this point.
Fess
Member
Looking at this thread...
The PlayStation Vita In 2011-2012
...makes me think that all this talk about Vita not having or not getting games that will sell in the near future is complete nonsense.
The future of the Vita is NOT as grim as some of you may think. Look in that thread. If none of the games in that thread will make the Vita sell then nothing will.
Those game + a price cut before western launch will make the Vita fly off the shelves in 2012, I even predict that the Vita will sell better than the 3DS in the west.
The PlayStation Vita In 2011-2012
...makes me think that all this talk about Vita not having or not getting games that will sell in the near future is complete nonsense.
The future of the Vita is NOT as grim as some of you may think. Look in that thread. If none of the games in that thread will make the Vita sell then nothing will.
Those game + a price cut before western launch will make the Vita fly off the shelves in 2012, I even predict that the Vita will sell better than the 3DS in the west.
slaughterking
Member
Rayman Origins will save the Vita.
The discussion is about system-selling titles aka. big IPs which need or should be exclusive to the Vita. There are great games coming, but some some HD ports and Sonys first party titles wont convince the mainstream to spend +30K Yen for a Vita and a game.
Large amount of games =/ marketable games
I love Falcom games, but those are going to struggle to hit 100k. I enjoy LBP, but that's not going to do huge numbers, etc.
Vita's entire catalog is more or less composed of either western dudebro games Japan isn't going to care about, or niche B/C tier stuff that well, Japan doesn't care about. Like I said earlier, they're going to need games in the vein of a real Tales, Yakuza, Gundam Vs., Miku, Phantasy Star, Final Fantasy, etc. to push hardware.
DS? I can see the argument for the others, but not sure about that one. Admittedly there was a period of time before it *really* took off, but I'm not sure if it could be classed as 'dead' prior to that.
Fess
Member
Sure there are no Mario Kart and Super Mario there. But from the look of it in that Vita 2011-2012 thread there are games in just about every genre, I just went through a whole bunch of trailers and found lots of games I'd like to play, so I don't see why all those games together wouldn't make the Vita a must have system.
I don't know what they like to play in Japan but here's a quick list of games that should at least peak the interest in western gamers
Uncharted
Wipeout 2048
Street Fighter X Tekken
Virtua Tennis 4
LittleBigPlanet
Dragon's Crown
Lumines
Ruin
Super Stardust Delta
Rayman Origins
Resistance
Escape Plan
Silent Hill
Super Monkey Ball
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Motorstorm RC
I love my 3DS but I would not be able to make a list like that for the 3DS. Not even close, right now I'm playing more DS games on my 3DS than 3DS games. So like I said, I think the Vita will sell more than the 3DS in the west. The battle of Japan might be tougher but a system is not doomed just because it won't sell in Japan. Look at the 360, and I don't think the Vita will fail that bad in Japan.
I don't know what they like to play in Japan but here's a quick list of games that should at least peak the interest in western gamers
Uncharted
Wipeout 2048
Street Fighter X Tekken
Virtua Tennis 4
LittleBigPlanet
Dragon's Crown
Lumines
Ruin
Super Stardust Delta
Rayman Origins
Resistance
Escape Plan
Silent Hill
Super Monkey Ball
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Motorstorm RC
I love my 3DS but I would not be able to make a list like that for the 3DS. Not even close, right now I'm playing more DS games on my 3DS than 3DS games. So like I said, I think the Vita will sell more than the 3DS in the west. The battle of Japan might be tougher but a system is not doomed just because it won't sell in Japan. Look at the 360, and I don't think the Vita will fail that bad in Japan.
AdventureRacing
Member
This is a Japanese sales thread so people are really just concentrating on that. The list you just posted will be lucky to have a single game sell 200K copies. They really need some bigger titles than that.
Actually even in the west i don't see most of those games selling all that well. I don't think they will bomb or anything but there aren't any real big sellers (there are other announced games which will probably sell more though).
Actually even in the west i don't see most of those games selling all that well. I don't think they will bomb or anything but there aren't any real big sellers (there are other announced games which will probably sell more though).
Ignis Fatuus
Banned
Thing is MK and 3D Land alone will or already sold more than all those titles you have listed will sell combined in Japan, its a sales discussion, it doesnt mean that Vita wont have any games which will be worth your time and cant be enjoyed.
List Wars wont change the fact that Vita is in need of bigger games which have impact on hw sales.
List Wars wont change the fact that Vita is in need of bigger games which have impact on hw sales.
Magicpaint
Member
LOL Based on THAT line-up you posted? There isn't a single game there that can drive hardware sales in any meaningful way.
Anyway these threads tend to focus on Japanese sales.
well i'm kinda cheating here since it was more dead in the us than it was in japan early on. it sold 59k one month in the states (so less than 15k a week), and was often doing so poorly that nintendo would only release numbers for the gba and the ds as a sort of package deal. the only other system around that time that was doing that poorly was the gamecube.
Fess
Member
Okay but the Vita is doooomed talk probably isn't just about Japan either. And what type of title do you think it need to not fail? GTA5?
I just think everyone is overreacting here, personally I think the price is the biggest problem the Vita has, the game library won't be a problem.
Lists? Really? Barring the fact that you're in a Japanese sales thread, I'll put some thought on the titles in bold.
electroplankton
Banned
Perhaps on that list there is a game that will become a system seller (difficult to predict, some phenomena come from nowhere), but I'd say that Uncharted will be the more attractive (and sold) game in the West. Sales-wise, this line-up is horrible in Japan though.
bigtroyjon
Member
Mario Kart sold 1 million in December in the US. I doubt that any game on your list will do 1 million total in the US, let alone a million in a month. Having a large number of mediocre selling games doesn't sell hardware.
My sentiment is that MC thread have almost never been this fun. I am drowning in sales-age orgasm in here, guys. I don't wanna draw you in a meaningless conversation in the next 6 pages by saying this but I think that this thread can grow bigger than the very NPD December one.
The two important things that will be discussed in these next three months will be 3DS' ability to sustain strong hardware and software sales (reference being the DS in the same period of its life) and PSVita not deeping below 9000 (Vegeta references will be used, trust me). And that is one hell of a fine marmelade for my sales-age bread.
The two important things that will be discussed in these next three months will be 3DS' ability to sustain strong hardware and software sales (reference being the DS in the same period of its life) and PSVita not deeping below 9000 (Vegeta references will be used, trust me). And that is one hell of a fine marmelade for my sales-age bread.
So judging by your avatar, you're hungry like the wolf for more sales data.
Fess
Member
I only listed westen type of games, if you look in that Vita thread you'll see that there are lots of games that cater to the japanese gamers too.