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Media Create Sales: Week 20, 2017 (May 15 - May 21)

horuhe

Member
How is that compared to the original splatoon after rhe beta testfire?

According to Rakuten, from out of Top 80 before the Testfire, to 69º after the first one, and 5º after the second one.

Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 18, 2015 (Apr 27 - May 03)
00./00. [WiiU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo) **

Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 19, 2015 (May 04 - May 10)
05./0X. [WiiU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo)

Rakuten Books Pre-Orders Ranking Week 21, 2015 (May 18 - May 24)
01./03. [WiiU] Splatoon <ACT> (Nintendo)
 

horuhe

Member
so technically Arms won't be the next splatoon by any mean lol

I guess Nintendo was preparing another one along the way. Testpunch didn't affect what we expected, but if the next one is a way better, I do think ARMS could do around what Splatoon did.
 

Passose

Banned
I guess Nintendo was preparing another one along the way. Testpunch didn't affect what we expected, but if the next one is a way better, I do think ARMS could do around what Splatoon did.
Idk, on paper it don't have any chance of becoming the next splatoon. But for me, I think it will, at least after trying three beta testpunches lol
 
PREDICTION LEAGUE JUNE 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 29 to Jun 25):

[PS4] Tekken 7 (25 days) - 110k
[NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection (25 days) - 28k
[NSW] Arms (10 days) - 130k
 

Passose

Banned
PREDICTION LEAGUE JUNE 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 29 to Jun 25):

[PS4] Tekken 7 (25 days) - 90k
[NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection (25 days) - 8k
[NSW] Arms (10 days) - 87k
 
Rakuten Books, in the overall ranking from 15º after the Direct, to 13º after the Testpunch, so no significant movement at all. In fact, ARMS Direct had a better effect, from 50º before the Direct, to 15º after it.

Yeah I definitely felt like the testpunch had a much bigger positive impact on North America than Japan. It may be a game that speaks more to western audiences
 

Mory Dunz

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE JUNE 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 29 to Jun 25):

[PS4] Tekken 7 (25 days) - 90k
[NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection (25 days) - 8k
[NSW] Arms (10 days) - 87k

didn't yso predict ~15k for Seiken First Week?

Do you see them being that off lol?
 

Sandfox

Member
That's a smart idea because they can keep doing it with different characters.

Nobody really cares about most of those characters.
The Spring banner had Lucina, Chrom, Camilla, and Xander. If it didn't hit number 1 for that, it never will.

Lynn and Cordelia were ranked first and seventh respectively in the heroine poll at launch so people will want them. I'm not saying it's going to rank first or anything, but I think this theme has more potential than the bunny one.
 

Cerium

Member
That's a smart idea because they can keep doing it with different characters.



Lynn and Cordelia were ranked first and seventh respectively in the heroine poll at launch so people will want them. I'm not saying it's going to rank first or anything, but I think this theme has more potential than the bunny one.

I love how Lyn is absolutely fucking useless as a unit because they know people won't give a fuck.

Unless that B ability can be inherited onto characters who don't use staves in which case whoa boy.
 
PREDICTION LEAGUE JUNE 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 29 to Jun 25):

[PS4] Tekken 7 (25 days) - 112k
[NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection (25 days) - 42k
[NSW] Arms (10 days) - 262k
 

Cookie18

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE JUNE 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 29 to Jun 25):

[PS4] Tekken 7 (25 days) - 90k
[NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection (25 days) - 20k
[NSW] Arms (10 days) - 200k
 

Calm Mind

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE JUNE 2017

[PS4] Tekken 7 (25 days) - 65k
[NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection (25 days) - 44k
[NSW] Arms (10 days) - 115k
 

Kikorin

Member
I think ARMS will not have a huge launch in Japan, but will do well in the west. I think it will also have legs (eheh) and will sell a lot thanks to the word of mouth and the long support planned.
 
Tekken 7 is gonna bomb pretty badly, that's too bad.

And ARMS needs to have a LEGS expansion, could help it sell a lot in the long run.
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
Do you guys think the ps4 version of DQXI end up selling over one million at the end of this year?


Yes
BTW I think someone here is underestimating what a phenomena splatoon has been, it is obvious that arms wasn't going to repeat that success
 

Vena

Member
It's definitely true in Japan, though I'm suspicious this will also be true worldwide.

Fighting games are in quite the regression if they aren't either accompanied by a major IP or storymode/IP combo or are Smash Bros (or smaller indie successes that have considerably lower definitions of "success").

ARMS will probably do better than most fighting games outside of the Netherealms/Smash titles, and that's going to ride heavily on the graces of Nintendo (and a strong beta, but I think the title will in general perform much more strongly in the west than in Japan).
 

Aostia

El Capitan Todd
urm............... is that person me? :p


Yes :D
I mean splatoon has been such a huge it that pretending N to find a similar one two time in a row seems pretty rad
We will see but splatoon 2 could see a MHP level of explosion even...so not something really common


If ARMS does 300k or more in it's first week that would already be a huge success


That would be better than zelda and mk
Enough said
It is not gonna happen
If it will be successfull in any case it will be in the mid term not at launch
 

Fiendcode

Member
PREDICTION LEAGUE JUNE 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 29 to Jun 25):

[PS4] Tekken 7 (25 days) - 87,439
[NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection (25 days) - 42,486
[NSW] Arms (10 days) - 136,721
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Fighting games are in quite the regression if they aren't either accompanied by a major IP or storymode/IP combo or are Smash Bros (or smaller indie successes that have considerably lower definitions of "success").

ARMS will probably do better than most fighting games outside of the Netherealms/Smash titles, and that's going to ride heavily on the graces of Nintendo (and a strong beta, but I think the title will in general perform much more strongly in the west than in Japan).

I would actually propose that they're quite healthy when they don't look like games that could have been on the PS2 (sans graphics).

1.) For Honor is the year's second best selling game, topping titles like Zelda, Horizon, and Resident Evil 7.
2.) Mortal Kombat X moved over 5 million copies very quickly. We'll see with Injustice 2, but I'm bullish.
3.) Smash Wii U/3DS is the best selling entry when combined.
4.) And then we have ARMS coming up, which will be interesting to see, but could prove help prove out this theory.

Like, the genre largely evolved the same way most other genres have. You need to make a really impressive package, or have something that feels very fresh.

If your game isn't oozing money or looking like a unique experience, it's going to be a harder sell.
 

noshten

Member
I would actually propose that they're quite healthy when they don't look like games that could have been on the PS2 (sans graphics).

1.) For Honor is the year's second best selling game, topping titles like Zelda, Horizon, and Resident Evil 7.
2.) Mortal Kombat X moved over 5 million copies very quickly. We'll see with Injustice 2, but I'm bullish.
3.) Smash Wii U/3DS is the best selling entry when combined.
4.) And then we have ARMS coming up, which will be interesting to see, but could prove help prove out this theory.

Like, the genre largely evolved the same way most other genres have. You need to make a really impressive package, or have something that feels very fresh.

If your game isn't oozing money or looking like a unique experience, it's going to be a harder sell.

Personally I don't see Injustice 2 doing so well - it has had a decent debut in the UK/France but I'd be surprised if it moves more than 2-3 million units WW.
While For Honor, Smash and Arms are anything but typical fighting games.

Personally Im going to be surprised if Injustice 2 is able to outsell MK8D in the NPD, we've discussed this in the NPD thread and as I've mentioned I don't see I2 doing much more than 500K in it's debut month.

That would still potentially put it above every other traditional game in the genre, sans Mortal Kombat.

People have been throwing around MKX like launch and MKX like sales - I don't think it would be close to that
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
Personally I don't see Injustice 2 doing so well - it has had a decent debut in the UK/France but I'd be surprised if it moves more than 2-3 million units WW.
While For Honor, Smash and Arms are anything but typical fighting games.

Personally Im going to be surprised if Injustice 2 is able to outsell MK8D in the NPD, we've discussed this in the NPD thread and as I've mentioned I don't see I2 doing much more than 500K in it's debut month.

That would still potentially put it above every other traditional game in the genre, sans Mortal Kombat.
 

Mory Dunz

Member
I would actually propose that they're quite healthy when they don't look like games that could have been on the PS2 (sans graphics).

1.) For Honor is the year's second best selling game, topping titles like Zelda, Horizon, and Resident Evil 7.
2.) Mortal Kombat X moved over 5 million copies very quickly. We'll see with Injustice 2, but I'm bullish.
3.) Smash Wii U/3DS is the best selling entry when combined.
4.) And then we have ARMS coming up, which will be interesting to see, but could prove help prove out this theory.

Like, the genre largely evolved the same way most other genres have. You need to make a really impressive package, or have something that feels very fresh.

If your game isn't oozing money or looking like a unique experience, it's going to be a harder sell.

plus Pokken crossed a million months ago. If it was on a different platform, or actually received the DLC made for it a la Hyrule Warriors, it might have a higher ceiling.
 
PREDICTION LEAGUE JUNE 2017

Predict how much these titles will sell in the month (from May 29 to Jun 25):

[PS4] Tekken 7 (25 days) - 95,000
[NSW] Seiken Densetsu Collection (25 days) - 45,000
[NSW] Arms (10 days) - 135,000
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
It's definitely true in Japan, though I'm suspicious this will also be true worldwide.
Yeah it's weird there's no real way to tell due to the unreliability for things like Amazon for this. But looking most metrics ARMS seems to be doing comparatively or better in a lot of metrics that it honestly shouldn't be.
 

noshten

Member
So based on FT article the Switch could be around 20 million by March 2018, how could this be distributed WW?

NA: 8 million
EU and ROTW: 7 million
Japan: 6 million


If Switch sell around 6 million by March 2018 in Japan I think a lot of my expectations about the Switch will come to fruition and a lot of people on these threads where we have debated these different things might have to eat some crow:

- Splatoon 2 being a top 10 selling game in Japan of all time isn't some crazy pie in sky noshtenism&#8482;
- Minecraft would surely be a million seller by the end of 2017 and I'm not suffering from some type of fever I honestly expect it to be one of the best performing 3rd party game on the Switch during it's lifetime.
- Zelda will surely be well above 1 million units sold by the end of 2017 so some people might need to take their L
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
some of you guys just don't sleep lol

Not every Gaffer is located in the US.
So based on FT article the Switch could be around 20 million by March 2018, how could this be distributed WW?

NA: 8 million
EU and ROTW: 7 million
Japan: 6 million


If Switch sell around 6 million by March 2018 in Japan I think a lot of my expectations about the Switch will come to fruition and a lot of people on these threads where we have debated these different things might have to eat some crow:

- Splatoon 2 being a top 10 selling game in Japan of all time isn't some crazy pie in sky noshtenism&#8482;
- Minecraft would surely be a million seller by the end of 2017 and I'm not suffering from some type of fever I honestly expect it to be one of the best performing 3rd party game on the Switch during it's lifetime.
- Zelda will surely be well above 1 million units sold by the end of 2017 so some people might need to take their L

If they can reach that shipment number in Japan +5m - there might be some hope left for the console market if Switch/PS4 software titles perform well in 2018. e3 will be interesting...but TGS/Fall conferences is where i expect japanese publishers to deliver.
 
So based on FT article the Switch could be around 20 million by March 2018, how could this be distributed WW?

NA: 8 million
EU and ROTW: 7 million
Japan: 6 million


If Switch sell around 6 million by March 2018 in Japan I think a lot of my expectations about the Switch will come to fruition and a lot of people on these threads where we have debated these different things might have to eat some crow:

- Splatoon 2 being a top 10 selling game in Japan of all time isn't some crazy pie in sky noshtenism™
- Minecraft would surely be a million seller by the end of 2017 and I'm not suffering from some type of fever I honestly expect it to be one of the best performing 3rd party game on the Switch during it's lifetime.
- Zelda will surely be well above 1 million units sold by the end of 2017 so some people might need to take their L

What an awful post. "Take the L" because the guy thinks a Zelda can't reach 1 million sales in Japan?

Please...
 

Passose

Banned
Not every Gaffer is located in the US.


If they can reach that shipment number in Japan +5m - there might be some hope left for the console market if Switch/PS4 software titles perform well in 2018. e3 will be interesting...but TGS/Fall conferences is where i expect japanese publishers to deliver.
Switch needs to get most Japanese third parties onboard though
 
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