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[zeromcd73]

Can also still confirm Switch does not exist in Osaka. I dropped by Joshin and Yodobashi today and still nothing.

Also saw a single report from a small retailer online saying they aren't confident if they will have enough copies of ARMS on launch day. This probably won't be a major thing though.

 

[Magicpaint]

Oh, no need to be sad, those times will come back once Splatoon 2 is out.

Spoiler

Let me dream, please

I will take a couple of 100k+ weeks

 

[Nirolak]

Square Enix has announced what is quite possibly the highest production value card game I have ever seen: Dragon Quest Rivals for mobile.

It will be interesting to see how it does, as Shadowverse (CyGames' card game) is often a top 10 monthly performer, as are Dragon Quest games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3GmpxktwMg

 

[Mr. Pointy]

ARMS launch doing 75k and then 50k weeks until Splatoon 2, which does 150k - 75k Splatoon bundles, 75k regular Switches.

 

[noshten]

Combined, both versions of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild have sold 588 624 units at retail. 600k next week! To reach 1m before the end of the year, it needs 411 376 units during the next 32 weeks, and that's 12 855 units per week. Definitely doable, though not quite guaranteed yet (too early to say for sure, but at least 1m LTD seems guaranteed).

Bump when Switch gets bigger shipments will be pretty interesting.

Lets say that Switch follows a similar path to 3DS around the holidays and Splatoon 2 launch and finishes the year at around 4 - 4.5 million units sold. Currently it's sitting at 875K with a >50% attach rate for Zelda BotW.
That leaves 3125K potential owners if Switch sells 4 million in Japan by the end of the year. Out of these potential 3 million owners you'd need 1 in 8 to buy Zelda in order for the combined Switch/Wii U total to be over 1 million. I personally think Zelda will sell better than that.

In any case 1 million by the end of the year for both versions is pretty much guaranteed.

 

[KtSlime]

Strange thing is that supply is actually dropping compared to last month, though. Wonder what the reason for that could be.

They have to start making Splatoon 2 bundles some time, and those have Switches in them, so instead of shipping them they are storing some in a warehouse until Splatoon 2's launch.

 

[Zedark]

They have to start making Splatoon 2 bundles some time, and those have Switches in them, so instead of shipping them they are storing some in a warehouse until Splatoon 2's launch.

Yeah, that would make sense. Here's hoping they can get the increased production kicking in very soon so we can get decent weekly numbers and good storage for big releases

 

[ggx2ac]

They have to start making Splatoon 2 bundles some time, and those have Switches in them, so instead of shipping them they are storing some in a warehouse until Splatoon 2's launch.

I can't believe I forgot about that. lol

So this would likely affect Japan but not other regions since they're not getting the same bundles.

 

[Passose]

question: will that Rabbids x Mario thing sell well in Japan?

 

[Eolz]

PS4 VS PS3

------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |   PlayStation 3   |   PlayStation 4   |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2006/11/11)   |    (2014/02/22)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   PS4 - PS3  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
| 168|   26.966|4.625.080|   27.954|4.732.481|       107.401| 
| 169|   34.431|4.659.511|   17.295|4.749.776|        90.265|
| 170|   25.450|4.684.961|   17.314|4.767.090|        82.129|
| 171|   24.811|4.709.772|         |         |              |
| 172|   32.130|4.741.902|         |         |              |
| 173|   27.763|4.769.665|         |         |              |
| 174|   28.824|4.798.489|         |         |              |
| 175|   26.481|4.824.970|         |         |              |
| 176|   50.164|4.875.134|         |         |              |
| 177|   50.448|4.925.582|         |         |              |
| 178|   38.877|4.964.459|         |         |              |
| 179|   28.973|4.993.432|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

Switch VS 3DS

------------------------------------------------------------- 
|    |    Nintendo 3DS   |   Nintendo Switch |  Difference  | 
|    |    (2011/02/26)   |    (2017/03/03)   |              | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------| 
|Week|  Weekly |   LTD   |  Weekly |   LTD   |   NSW - 3DS  | 
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|
|  10|   28.413|  948.546|   47.911|  825.163|      -123.383|
|  11|   29.149|  977.695|   24.712|  849.875|      -127.820|
|  12|   18.324|  996.019|   26.114|  875.989|      -120.030|
|  13|   17.240|1.013.259|         |         |              |
|  14|   24.283|1.037.542|         |         |              |
|  15|   27.357|1.064.899|         |         |              |
|  16|   24.649|1.089.548|         |         |              |
|  17|   40.649|1.130.197|         |         |              |
|  18|   27.905|1.158.102|         |         |              |
|  19|   30.233|1.188.335|         |         |              |
|  20|   22.943|1.211.278|         |         |              |
|  21|   46.637|1.257.915|         |         |              |
|----|---------|---------|---------|---------|--------------|

Switch Weekly

+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
|  |    3DS   |    PSV   |    WIU   |    PS4   |    NSW   |
|La|2011.02.26|2011.12.17|2012.12.08|2014.02.22|2017.03.03|
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+
| 1|   374.764|   324.859|   308.142|   309.154|   329.152|
| 2|   209.623|    72.479|   126.916|    65.685|    61.998|
| 3|    96.463|    42.648|   122.843|    35.294|    49.913|
| 4|    61.394|    42.915|    69.386|    29.677|    78.441|
| 5|    50.710|    18.361|    67.083|    30.201|    45.509|
| 6|    42.979|    15.219|    20.715|    23.327|    41.193|
| 7|    32.910|    18.942|    16.654|    13.401|    45.673|
| 8|    28.252|    17.141|    13.746|    13.034|    48.694|
| 9|    23.038|    13.939|    12.959|    14.396|    76.679|
|10|    28.413|    12.309|    12.185|    12.712|    47.911|
|11|    29.149|    11.186|    10.744|    11.486|    24.712|
|12|    18.324|    10.023|     9.633|     8.480|    26.114|
|13|    17.240|    10.041|    10.021|     6.792|          |
|14|    24.283|    10.021|     9.454|     7.543|          |
+--+----------+----------+----------+----------+----------+

Mario Kart Wii U VS Switch

PS4 and PS3 streams crossing once again?

 

[frankie_baby]

question: will that Rabbids x Mario thing sell well in Japan?

It'll do better than rabbidsland at least

 

[ggx2ac]

Square Enix has announced what is quite possibly the highest production value card game I have ever seen: Dragon Quest Rivals for mobile.

It will be interesting to see how it does, as Shadowverse (CyGames' card game) is often a top 10 monthly performer, as are Dragon Quest games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3GmpxktwMg

Hearthstone, Shadowverse, Yugioh duel links, Pokémon Trading Card Game and now this.

It's going to be harder to compete with mobile card games especially with mobile game revenue growth slowing down.

 

[Deku89]

question: will that Rabbids x Mario thing sell well in Japan?

Depends on their expectations. It's a new crossover, so it's difficult to judge. 150k-200k? Don't know, especially since we haven't seen any gameplay.

 

[gortsi]

I can't believe I forgot about that. lol

So this would likely affect Japan but not other regions since they're not getting the same bundles.

Europe is getting the same bundle with red and blue joy-con instead of the new ones

 

[7Th]

The Switch has been in stock on Amazon Japan for more than a week; the meme is over.

 

[schuelma]

The Switch has been in stock on Amazon Japan for more than a week; the meme is over.

what are you talking about?

 

[Alrus]

question: will that Rabbids x Mario thing sell well in Japan?

Hard to tell until we see a bit more but I doubt it's going to do well no.

 

[Nirolak]

Hearthstone, Shadowverse, Yugioh duel links, Pokémon Trading Card Game and now this.

It's going to be harder to compete with mobile card games especially with mobile game revenue growth slowing down.

Hearthstone itself is not very successful in Japan, which I imagine is why they're going after this.

They likely feel there's an opportunity to try and bully Shadowverse with a bigger budget and a much stronger brand.

 

[Zedark]

The Switch has been in stock on Amazon Japan for more than a week; the meme is over.

Are you referring to those scalped units selling for 42k Yen?

More generally, I love how there are some trolls entering the thread here telling people who follow the threads regularly and read all the reports that they are delusional for saying there are supply constraints. Quite funny and sad at the same time.

 

[gconsole]

Just tried to search from local website ( Argos and others ). Still not in stock, so at least there are still supply constaint in the UK.

 

[frankie_baby]

The Switch has been in stock on Amazon Japan for more than a week; the meme is over.

https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B01NCXFWIZ/

See that price? It means its from a third party seller at an inflated price, amazon aint got none, its the same with the grey

 

[boiled goose]

The Switch has been in stock on Amazon Japan for more than a week; the meme is over.

Wut

 

[Alrus]

Wut

Like on a lot of other amazon stores, they're from third party sellers and they're way more expensive than MSRP.

 

[JonnyDBrit]

PS4 and PS3 streams crossing once again?

It'll still take a few more weeks for that at least, as the gap is 80k overall, and the week by week gap 10-15k for the last two weeks. By the point the PS3 bumps to 50k for a brief bit it might happen, if nothing else similarly drives the PS4.

 

[frankie_baby]

Presumably nintendo will publish mario rabbids in japan and i guess they'll give it a decent push

 

[cw_sasuke]

Is the narrative still going to be "switch selling what's been shipped"? Demand is evidently slowing down.

The Switch has been in stock on Amazon Japan for more than a week; the meme is over.

...why ?

 

[xequalsy]

Hearthstone itself is not very successful in Japan, which I imagine is why they're going after this.

They likely feel there's an opportunity to try and bully Shadowverse with a bigger budget and a much stronger brand.

Probably not the best place to ask but. Did that PvZ card game fail to make a splash in any market then? Not really been on the radar after launch as far as I can see.

 

[Zedark]

...why ?

.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

...why ?

When you're desperate for negative Switch news, sometimes you just have to create your own.

 

[FreedomFighter]

The Switch has been in stock on Amazon Japan for more than a week; the meme is over.

Haha, you and Melkr_ so thirsty for Switch demand to decrease you're trying to will it into happening!

 

[Claude Augario]

So have you finally come around to the fact that Switch is going to inherit the niche third party support that Vita received?

He had to after Disgaea 5 western preorders single-handedly saved the Switch third party landscape.

 

[1st Course]

Maybe the reason they can't supply/manufacture enough units is because the yields on the SoC are crap?

 

[frankie_baby]

Maybe the reason they can't supply enough units is because the yields on the SoC are crap?

It seems to be an off the shelf tx1, theres no reason the yields will be crap

 

[Nirolak]

Did that PvZ card game fail to make a splash in any market then? Not really been on the radar after launch as far as I can see.

No, the only majorly successful mobile card games (in the Magic The Gathering sense) are Hearthstone, Yu-Gi-Oh, and Shadowverse.

Plants Vs. Zombies: Heroes sits down in the 400s in the US market.

Now, there are other games that take cards/deck building in a different direction and are hugely successful. For example, Clash Royale is the #3 top grossing game on earth, and has you build a deck of cards to play a competitive strategy game.

Back in the day, games that used cards as stand-ins for RPG sprites/character models were quite successful, though I wouldn't consider those "card games" in any meaningful sense.

However, for games in the Magic The Gathering conceptual space, those three are the only meaningful performers. I imagine Magic The Gathering and the Pokemon trading card game will suck up most remaining oxygen in the room.

That said, I think the Dragon Quest game has a real shot in Japan since Hearthstone and Magic are unlikely to be majorly successful there for the foreseeable future, and I'm not convinced Shadowverse has an unassailable position.

I guess GWENT has some questions around it, but like, I don't think we need to even begin talking about that in the context of the Japanese market.

 

[lherre]

I'm thinking to send mine to Japan since it has 1 hour of use, maybe I will earn more money and buy it later

 

[Draxal]

Hearthstone itself is not very successful in Japan, which I imagine is why they're going after this.

They likely feel there's an opportunity to try and bully Shadowverse with a bigger budget and a much stronger brand.

Tbh, I think you are underestimating the brand value of Cygames Rage of Bahamut/Shadowverse/Granblue multiverse.

 

[Skittzo0413]

Maybe the reason they can't supply/manufacture enough units is because the yields on the SoC are crap?

I doubt that, I think it's more likely to be a problem with Japan Display if there is any production problem at all. This could just be how long it really takes NIntendo to ramp up production.

 

[xequalsy]

SNIP.

Thanks for the insight! Have a few comments on this but won't derail the thread since it's not really relevant to the JPN market as far as I can see.

I do wonder why Hearthstone isn't even more successful though in Japan. As far as I hear from Yugioh playing friends, their online and mobile implantation isn't the best either (speaking for before the launch of Duel Links at least). So I would have expected the polish of Hearthstone to attract people. Maybe it's just the difference in brand power between Yugioh and Warcraft I guess.

 

[Pachael]

Tbh, I think you are underestimating the brand value of Cygames Rage of Bahamut/Shadowverse/Granblue multiverse.

I'd like to too, given that I'm playing a fair number of Cygames, but I'm more of the opinion these days that famous brands that come late to the party can make a sizable dent on new IP that haven't been around for too long. Bamco are using longstanding IP like Dragon Ball to go up the revenue list for example, Aniplex are trying to replicate Fate's success, and even Nintendo IP like Pokemon and to a lesser extent Fire Emblem.

Probably except Monster Strike, that looks unassailable.

 

[Passose]

I'd like to too, given that I'm playing a fair number of Cygames, but I'm more of the opinion these days that famous brands that come late to the party can make a sizable dent on new IP that haven't been around for too long. Bamco are using longstanding IP like Dragon Ball to go up the revenue list for example, Aniplex are trying to replicate Fate's success, and even Nintendo IP like Pokemon and to a lesser extent Fire Emblem.

Probably except Monster Strike, that looks unassailable.

for a fairly weak IP like fire emblem, gotta say I'm impressed that it keep hanging in the top 10 grossing mobile games

 

[duckroll]

06./07. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.02.23} (¥7.800) - 4.740 / 330.293 (-6%)
16./17. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2015.10.08} (¥4.990) - 2.863 / 336.943 (-1%)

Legendary fight to the death. Maybe Nier will take the lead again in 2 weeks.

 

[Draxal]

I'd like to too, given that I'm playing a fair number of Cygames, but I'm more of the opinion these days that famous brands that come late to the party can make a sizable dent on new IP that haven't been around for too long. Bamco are using longstanding IP like Dragon Ball to go up the revenue list for example, Aniplex are trying to replicate Fate's success, and even Nintendo IP like Pokemon and to a lesser extent Fire Emblem.

Probably except Monster Strike, that looks unassailable.

I think Shadowverse's and Hearthstone's greatest enemy will be themselves, if the players don't find the meta fun they'll abandon it. I haven't played Shadowverse since the last expansion, but i heard the meta wasn't fun at all.

And IIRC, what made Shadowverse strong off the bat, was that Hearthstone was having "pirate problems" and the strong giveaways by Shadowverse.

Granblue is going strong as ever, IIRC, gotta get KMR multiple boats.

 

[Dystify]

I wonder if Switch's going to stay at 25k until the release of ARMS or if they manage to go back to their 40k per week again.

More generally, I love how there are some trolls entering the thread here telling people who follow the threads regularly and read all the reports that they are delusional for saying there are supply constraints. Quite funny and sad at the same time.

This seems to be a thing in many Nintendo threads these days. Basically people coming into the topic, leaving a single negative comment, and you never see them again. Not sure if it just seems that way for me though but it ruins so many topics lately. Luckily there are mods active in the Media Create thread to prevent these things from getting out of hand. (Sorry for off topic.)

 

[Peléo]

This website tracksmajor online stores Switch stock situation. On everyone is sold out (since forever). They update everyday:

https://gamewith.jp/gamedb/article/show/43620?from=ios

Switch is sold by lottery on bigger stores in Japan.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=237369093

The Splatoon 2 bundle is booked by lottery on some stores:

https://mobile.twitter.com/comg_nakajyou/status/865468823817736192

Thank you for the links. I really appreciate it.

 

[Alrus]

I must say, a lottery just to be able to pre-order a bundle is quite funny in a sad way.

 

[Nirolak]

Tbh, I think you are underestimating the brand value of Cygames Rage of Bahamut/Shadowverse/Granblue multiverse.

I view there are being two mobile markets in Japan.

There's the younger people who grew up with mobile, and the 30-50 year olds who go all in on their favorite legacy brands.

Like Yu-Gi-Oh was a gigantic hit when it came out, and it focused entirely on the original card sets and characters for the audience that played the game growing up, but fell out of touch with the franchise later.

That's where I think a Dragon Quest card game would really appeal more than a Shadowverse card game, assuming competent game design.

Thanks for the insight! Have a few comments on this but won't derail the thread since it's not really relevant to the JPN market as far as I can see.

I do wonder why Hearthstone isn't even more successful though in Japan. As far as I hear from Yugioh playing friends, their online and mobile implantation isn't the best either (speaking for before the launch of Duel Links at least). So I would have expected the polish of Hearthstone to attract people. Maybe it's just the difference in brand power between Yugioh and Warcraft I guess.

While Activision Blizzard was very slow on the ramp up of the game, I feel the biggest issue is that the IP just doesn't have the same kind of relevance that company like CyGames can must. This is also just true of the local publishing strength of Activision Blizzard in Japan.

 

[Chris1964]

Famitsu Sales: Week 21, 2017 (May 15 - May 21)

01./01. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 24.406 / 421.693 <80-100%> (-21%)
02./02. [3DS] Monster Hunter Double Cross <ACT> (Capcom) {2017.03.18} (¥5.800) - 11.581 / 1.596.283 <80-100%> (-18%)
03./05. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 7.796 / 426.317 <80-100%> (-6%)
04./04. [3DS] Dragon Ball Heroes: Ultimate Mission X <TBL> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.04.27} (¥5.700) - 7.537 / 142.096 <80-100%> (-31%)
05./00. [PS4] Prey <ADV> (Bethesda Softworks) {2017.05.18} (¥7.980) - 7.230 / NEW <40-60%>
06./06. [3DS] Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia # <SLG> (Nintendo) {2017.04.20} (¥4.980) - 4.532 / 183.550 <80-100%> (-23%)
07./00. [PS4] Danganronpa 1 + 2 Reload <Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc \ Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair> <ADV> (Spike Chunsoft) {2017.05.18} (¥3.800) - 4.106 / NEW <20-40%>
08./08. [PS4] NieR: Automata <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.02.23} (¥7.800) - 3.786 / 292.581 <80-100%> (-2%)
09./03. [3DS] Attack on Titan: Escape from Certain Death # <ADV> (Koei Tecmo) {2017.05.11} (¥5.800) - 3.134 / 14.585 <40-60%> (-73%)
10./09. [PS4] Dark Souls III: The Fire Fades Edition <Dark Souls III \ Dark Souls III: Ashes of Ariandel \ Dark Souls III: The Ringed City> <RPG> (From Software) {2017.04.20} (¥5.900) - 3.079 / 55.892 <80-100%> (-16%)
11./07. [3DS] Pro Baseball Famista Climax <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2017.04.20} (¥5.700) - 3.015 / 72.288 <80-100%> (-24%)
12./10. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 2.753 / 3.759.754 <80-100%> (-9%)
13./12. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.571) - 2.585 / 2.712.814 <80-100%> (+2%)
14./00. [PSV] Rewrite: Harvest Festa! <ADV> (Prototype) {2017.05.18} (¥5.200) - 2.456 / NEW <60-80%>
15./11. [3DS] Mario Sports Superstars <SPT> (Nintendo) {2017.03.30} (¥4.980) - 2.325 / 86.502 <60-80%> (-20%)
16./15. [WIU] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 2.274 / 109.079 <80-100%> (+9%)
17./17. [3DS] Yo-Kai Watch 3: Sukiyaki <RPG> (Level 5) {2016.12.15} (¥4.800) - 2.033 / 716.002 <80-100%> (+5%)
18./19. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} (¥2.700) - 2.005 / 176.938 <80-100%> (+11%)
19./16. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V [New Price Edition] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2015.10.08} (¥4.990) - 1.984 / 254.571 <80-100%> (+0%)
20./13. [NSW] 1-2-Switch <ETC> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 1.905 / 192.762 <80-100%> (-20%)
21./14. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Wildlands <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2017.03.09} (¥8.400) - 1.756 / 180.502 <80-100%> (-18%)
22./25. [PS4] Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.12.03} (¥2.400) - 1.629 / 209.745 <80-100%> (+11%)
23./24. [PS4] Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Siege <ACT> (Ubisoft) {2015.12.10} (¥8.400) - 1.606 / 204.180 <80-100%> (+5%)
24./18. [3DS] Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS <ACT> (Nintendo) {2016.12.01} (¥4.700) - 1.602 / 1.134.197 <80-100%> (-13%)
25./29. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition # <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2015.03.19} (¥2.400) - 1.556 / 976.573 <80-100%> (+17%)
26./00. [WIU] Minecraft: Wii U Edition <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2016.06.23} (¥3.600) - 1.531 / 319.365 <80-100%> (+31%)
27./21. [PS4] Horizon: Zero Dawn # <RPG> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2017.03.02} (¥6.900) - 1.517 / 193.000 <80-100%> (-6%)
28./20. [PS4] Winning Eleven 2017 [Konami the Best] <SPT> (Konami) {2017.04.13} (¥3.980) - 1.425 / 15.146 <60-80%> (-16%)
29./30. [NSW] Super Bomberman R <ACT> (Konami) {2017.03.03} (¥4.980) - 1.376 / 86.269 <80-100%> (+6%)
30./28. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 + II.5 ReMIX <Kingdom Hearts HD I.5 ReMIX <Kingdom Hearts \ Kingdom Hearts Re:Chain of Memories> \ Kingdom Hearts HD II.5 ReMIX <Kingdom Hearts II \ Kingdom Hearts II: Final Mix+ \ Kingdom Hearts: Birth by Sleep>> <RPG> (Square Enix) {2017.03.09} (¥6.800) - 1.328 / 111.368 <80-100%> (-5%)

Top 30

3DS - 11
PS4 - 11
NSW - 4
PSV - 2
WIU - 2

HARDWARE

+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|System |  This Week |  Last Week |  Last Year |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  NSW  |     27.264 |     25.257 |            |    859.062 |            |     859.062 |
| PS4 # |     17.034 |     17.287 |     18.291 |    765.473 |    611.272 |   4.687.089 |
| 3DS # |     13.374 |     13.730 |     13.264 |    810.756 |    581.030 |  22.722.169 |
| PSV # |      4.596 |      4.212 |     10.082 |    237.161 |    470.973 |   5.484.580 |
|  PS3  |        362 |        237 |        782 |     13.159 |     28.828 |  10.270.878 |
|  WIU  |        206 |        203 |      3.659 |     18.068 |    197.759 |   3.297.806 |
| XB1 # |         97 |         72 |         60 |      4.629 |      2.897 |      77.577 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
|  ALL  |     62.933 |     60.998 |     46.138 |  2.708.308 |  1.892.759 |  47.399.161 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+
| XB1 S |         97 |         72 |            |      3.857 |            |       5.575 |
|PS4 Pro|      4.166 |      4.441 |            |    127.880 |            |     244.930 |
|  PS4  |     12.868 |     12.846 |     18.291 |    637.593 |    611.272 |   4.442.159 |
|  PSV  |      4.596 |      4.212 |     10.082 |    237.161 |    470.973 |   5.484.580 |
|  2DS  |      3.091 |      2.995 |            |    202.542 |            |     499.689 |
| n-3DS |     10.283 |     10.735 |     12.759 |    608.214 |    540.979 |   5.302.203 |
+-------+------------+------------+------------+------------+------------+-------------+

 

[Nibel]

Square Enix has announced what is quite possibly the highest production value card game I have ever seen: Dragon Quest Rivals for mobile.

It will be interesting to see how it does, as Shadowverse (CyGames' card game) is often a top 10 monthly performer, as are Dragon Quest games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3GmpxktwMg

..this looks pretty fantastic, and looking at Hearthstone numbers I can see why they are doing this

 

[Draxal]

I view there are being two mobile markets in Japan.

There's the younger people who grew up with mobile, and the 30-50 year olds who go all in on their favorite legacy brands.

Like Yu-Gi-Oh was a gigantic hit when it came out, and it focused entirely on the original card sets and characters for the audience that played the game growing up, but fell out of touch with the franchise later.

That's where I think a Dragon Quest card game would really appeal more than a Shadowverse card game, assuming competent game design.

Granblue in particular goes for that old FF 1-6 fanbase hard, and I think mobile's general target is already the older fanbase in general. I can see Dragon Quest making a dent, but if its going to make a dent, it would because Shadowverse fucked up imho.

While Activision Blizzard was very slow on the ramp up of the game, I feel the biggest issue is that the IP just doesn't have the same kind of relevance that company like CyGames can must. This is also just true of the local publishing strength of Activision Blizzard in Japan.

To be blunt, I think Hearthstone's art is pretty ugly, and I think that's what is hurting it the most in Japan. Aesthetics matter alot.

 

[Chris1964]

No download cards for Minecraft Switch or everyone bought it directly from eShop.