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[casiopao]

I don't see why Capcom would need to "split" the series in "portable" and "mainline" ever again. Especially where in the future, in the main market for MH, it will be sold mainly on a platform which is... both a portable and a console.

I think people calling it mainline and portable is wrong wording lol.

I would said mainline and spin off kinda like Lost Planet 3 and Ex Trooper where they are based on the same series but had different focus.

 

[hiska-kun]

I agree with you on most point, I just don't think it's going to work out as well as MH3G did for the 3DS when it comes to building up a base for future releases. We'll know soon enough

This version is a late port of an expansion. In other words, it looks more like MH3G HD ver. than the original 3DS version.
And outsell the Wii U version will be very easy.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

I don't know if XX Switch will crack a million in Japan, but it might get close. I think it'll outperform P3rd HD.

 

[Ōkami]

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[cheesekao]

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What's this?

 

[Vinnk]

This version is a late port of an expansion. In other words, it looks more like MH3G HD ver. than the original 3DS version.
And outsell the Wii U version will be very easy.

I liken it to when they ported the PS2 version of Monster Hunter G to the Wii to build audience for Tri.

 

[Kanann]

27th gonna be fun if they have another MH to be revealed too.


But first, they just destroy DQ countdown event LOL

 

[sinonobu]

27th gonna be fun if they have another MH to be revealed too.


But first, they just destroy DQ countdown event LOL

I have a weird feeling that they might reveal MH 5 teaser on 27th...

 

[Man God]

I think people calling it mainline and portable is wrong wording lol.

I would said mainline and spin off kinda like Lost Planet 3 and Ex Trooper where they are based on the same series but had different focus.

Part of the reason the portable label sticks to X and XX so well is that it is the spiritual successor to that series. Easier, uses the Portable way of denoting real attack values, same producer, etc.

 

[Nirolak]

I don't think it means anything in terms of exclusivity, but I think it makes it very clear that being a portable series is very important to Capcom in Japan and they need that continuity. Whether there is a PS4 version really depends on how much resources Capcom is willing to invest to try making it a bigger franchise internationally.

I would be at least somewhat surprised if XX released on PS4.

Unless this is a huge undertaking in terms of art asset upgrades, it would look pretty questionable as a late gen PS4 game, at which point, who are you targeting that wasn't okay with the handheld series?

 

[Vinnk]

Hopefully this announcement will reverse the obvious Switch decline we have been observing. Perhaps the meme isn't totally over.

Sarcasm aside, Nintendo really needs to get it together now. I know you can't magically make more supply out of nowhere. But are they still going to stick with this 10 (14?) million production figure for the end of the year? So many in demand titles this year and not having the hardware out there is bad for Nintendo and limits the sales potential of 3rd party titles as well.

 

[duckroll]

I would be at least somewhat surprised if XX released on PS4.

Unless this is a huge undertaking in terms of art asset upgrades, it would look pretty questionable as a late gen PS4 game, at which point, who are you targeting that wasn't okay with the handheld series?

I'm talking about MH5.

 

[hiska-kun]

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[Nirolak]

I'm talking about MH5.

Oh, yes, in that case I agree.

 

[duckroll]

Oh, yes, in that case I agree.

Yeah, I mean, I can't see a scenario where someone looks at MHXX today and goes "it would be a great use of our resources to port this to the PS4 too." Lol.

 

[Passose]

I have a weird feeling that they might reveal MH 5 teaser on 27th...

JUST DO IT

 

[Kanann]

Don't jump too high, I only mean something something MonHun Stories.

 

[Man God]

Yeah, I mean, I can't see a scenario where someone looks at MHXX today and goes "it would be a great use of our resources to port this to the PS4 too." Lol.

Maybe 4U around launch in Japan might have but yeah, a bit too late for this one.

 

[ggx2ac]

If you wanna know why Nintendo's stock price jumped...

Edit: Monster Hunter XX was announced for Switch from 10:00am JST

 

[Vena]

Oh, yes, in that case I agree.

Yeah, I mean, I can't see a scenario where someone looks at MHXX today and goes "it would be a great use of our resources to port this to the PS4 too." Lol.

I'd go with open world-ish for anything on the HD twins. Regardless of our thoughts on that old 4chan rumor, I don't think the traditional MH structure will be what we see or what Capcom thinks will work. And I'd probably agree with them because the traditional structure is very much designed around bite-sized/closed-session hunts with a very limited overarching world/playground.

 

[duckroll]

I'd go with open world-ish for anything on the HD twins. Regardless of our thoughts on that old 4chan rumor, I don't think the traditional MH structure will be what we see or what Capcom thinks will work.

I disagree, because they already have what you are describing. It's called Dragon's Dogma and it's already headed to PS4/XB1.

 

[Passose]

plot twist: Nintendo will decrease the stock to 10k starting next week to prepare units for the MHXX launch

I disagree, because they already have what you are describing. It's called Dragon's Dogma and it's already headed to PS4/XB1.

btw, why won't they release Dragon's Dogma for switch?

 

[Vena]

I disagree, because they already have what you are describing. It's called Dragon's Dogma and it's already headed to PS4/XB1.

But what about Dragon's Dogma with a more well known brand?

 

[Father_Brain]

I disagree, because they already have what you are describing. It's called Dragon's Dogma and it's already headed to PS4/XB1.

As I've said before when rumor/speculation about Capcom drastically retooling the series for Western audiences comes up, DD is really not far removed from what a Western-targeted open-world MH reboot would look like.

I do think there's a very good chance of future mainline entries coming to PS4 and PC, but I don't think they're going to attempt to turn it into a Westernized AAA franchise, because they already did that by a different name and it didn't exactly set the world on fire.

 

[Jpop]

Okay but the point isn't about whether it is multiplatform, the point is about whether it is on a platform that allows it to sell to the people who might be most likely to buy into it. Does that make more sense?

I agree.

I don't think the PS4 is that platform. Nintendo has grown the franchise in the West and offer a way to play both portable and console MH in one.

I just don't see any financial reason for MH on PS4.

 

[Vena]

I agree.

I don't think the PS4 is that platform. Nintendo has grown the franchise in the West and offer a way to play both portable and console MH in one.

I just don't see any financial reason for MH on PS4.

Because it'd be a different type of MH, and it'd be marketed by Sony/Microsoft/Steam.

 

[cheesekao]

I agree.

I don't think the PS4 is that platform. Nintendo has grown the franchise in the West and offer a way to play both portable and console MH in one.

I just don't see any financial reason for MH on PS4.

Only if they put in little to zero effort.

 

[Shengar]

As I've said before when rumor/speculation about Capcom drastically retooling the series for Western audiences comes up, DD is really not far removed from what a Western-targeted open-world MH reboot would look like.

I do think there's a very good chance of future mainline entries coming to PS4 and PC, but I don't think they're going to attempt to turn it into a Westernized AAA franchise, because they already did that by a different name and it didn't exactly set the world on fire.

While I believe MH and DD similarities ends at huge monsters, I can get what you mean.

This is why I think the rumor that said Capcom going to release a "casualized" version of MH for PS4 as ridiculous since the last two games sales doesn't affected by the gameplay. It was only matter of platform and that was what the CEO said in his comment in regard of MH potential growth in the west.

Why would you retool a game when the current formula work just right? That doesn't make sense. Even more so in recent comment where Capcom said they met difficulty with developing modern games due to rising necessary resources to pull.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

If MH5 comes to PS4 Capcom has to invest a lot, it has to be visually on par and I dont know if it would make sense to make it anything but open world.

 

[Vena]

Why would you retool a game when the current formula work just right? That doesn't make sense. Even more so in recent comment where Capcom said they met difficulty with developing modern games due to rising necessary resources to pull.

Because the current formula never really took off on consoles, and really took off on a format where the mission-based quick structure gelled with a portable/go-anywhere system in the PSP. That's since continued and the system has evolved, but in a lot of ways it still heavily leverages a bite-sized structure that's a lot like the strikes in Destiny.

The west also picked up on this formula on the 3DS, but other brands of the type of structure have never found success in the west in this or even previous gens, really. We need only look at how other similar brands have tried to shake off the formula of MH for something more open world. You could even consider Dark Souls in a similar vein and its not "mission based" its a contiguous world with "boss hunts".

The west/console demographic would have more easily greased cogs with something open-world/open-world~ish with a more streamlined structure/combat. Look at Horizon, its a lot like what I'd expect for a MH on consoles.

Weighty combat is also been a pretty hit or miss proposition. Dark Souls, I think, really only ever got away with it in the west because of the notion of "git gud" and the lexicon that evolved around the series and its combat.

 

[sinonobu]

Okay. Maybe I'm delusional but I'm totally expecting MH5 announcement at the 27th event.

 

[cheesekao]

If MH5 comes to PS4 Capcom has to invest a lot, it has to be visually on par and I dont know if it would make sense to make it anything but open world.

I don't believe that it has to have super high graphical fidelity but rather just look like an appealing product, within reason of course. Graphically, Nioh and Nier Automata look pretty eh but they both did well.

 

[clay_ghost]

As I've said before when rumor/speculation about Capcom drastically retooling the series for Western audiences comes up, DD is really not far removed from what a Western-targeted open-world MH reboot would look like.

I do think there's a very good chance of future mainline entries coming to PS4 and PC, but I don't think they're going to attempt to turn it into a Westernized AAA franchise, because they already did that by a different name and it didn't exactly set the world on fire.

The brand name matters though, rebranding DD as a MH will make it sell more at the risk of pissing off any fans that wanted a real MH game on PS4 lol

 

[Vena]

I don't believe that it has to have super high graphical fidelity but rather just look like an appealing product, within reason of course. Graphically, Nioh and Nier Automata look pretty eh but they both did well.

Depends on how this goes. Those would be pretty low sales for the brand.

 

[cheesekao]

Depends on how this goes. Those would be pretty low sales for the brand.

i'm referring to the worldwide audience btw. MH is gonna sell regardless of how it looks in Japan. I'm not saying graphics aren't important but you don't have to be a Horizon tier stunner to sell well.

 

[Vena]

i'm referring to the worldwide audience btw. MH is gonna sell regardless of how it looks in Japan. I'm not saying graphics aren't important but you don't have to be a Horizon tier stunner to sell well.

What I am saying is that those sales numbers, in the raw, would be really low. MH selling on the same level as Nier/Nioh would be a huge decline for the brand.

Like, Capcom would be running around in a panic if the next MH sold that much.

 

[cheesekao]

What I am saying is that those sales numbers, in the raw, would be really low. MH selling on the same level as Nier/Nioh would be a huge decline for the brand.

Domestically? Sure. Internationally? Doubt it. A mainline MH ain't gonna sell as low as those two in Japan so there's no point in comparing Japanese sales.

 

[casiopao]

btw, why won't they release Dragon's Dogma for switch?

This Capcom we are talking bro. There is no logic in their action.

 

[Passose]

http://gematsu.com/2017/05/monster-hunter-xx-nintendo-switch-ver-announced

Update: A Capcom representative has confirmed3 that Monster Hunter XX Nintendo Switch Ver. is different from its unannounced “major title” due out before March 31, 2018.

hah

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

I agree.

I don't think the PS4 is that platform. Nintendo has grown the franchise in the West and offer a way to play both portable and console MH in one.

I just don't see any financial reason for MH on PS4.

When Capcom said that they needed to look beyond handhelds to grow the franchise in the west, they weren't talking about Switch lol

 

[Jpop]

When Capcom said that they needed to look beyond handhelds to grow the franchise in the west, they weren't talking about Switch lol

I didn't realize the Switch was a handheld only.

 

[Vena]

Domestically? Sure. Internationally? Doubt it.

Then I am confused. Nier and Nioh haven't really sold to some grandiose high standard in any region, they've done really well all in all for what they are globally and in Japan but in no region would they be a good comparison to MH performance.

 

[duckroll]

http://gematsu.com/2017/05/monster-hunter-xx-nintendo-switch-ver-announced

hah

I mean duh? This isn't selling 2 million in any reality.

 

[Nirolak]

I mean duh? This isn't selling 2 million in any reality.

I should note that this means they expect it to ship less than 1 million copies, since they list all 1+ million copy games in their expectations.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

I didn't realize the Switch was a handheld only.

When Capcom made that statement, the Switch hadn't even been released yet. Do you honestly think that in their comment, they were talking about an unreleased system that looks to succeed the system that they said was holding back Monster Hunter's potential in the west?

They were talking about PS4/XB1/PC.

 

[casiopao]

When Capcom made that statement, the Switch hadn't even been released yet. Do you honestly think that in their comment, they were talking about an unreleased system that looks to succeed the system that they said was holding back Monster Hunter's potential in the west?

They were talking about PS4/XB1/PC.

Not being released does not mean they dont know about Switch though.

 

[Passose]

I mean duh? This isn't selling 2 million in any reality.

I know, just wonder what title is it going to be? DMC5? MH5?Okami2?

When Capcom made that statement, the Switch hadn't even been released yet. Do you honestly think that in their comment, they were talking about an unreleased system that looks to succeed the system that they said was holding back Monster Hunter's potential in the west?

They were talking about PS4/XB1/PC.

It was on November though, the switch trailer was shown a few months before that

 

[Gotdatmoney]

http://gematsu.com/2017/05/monster-hunter-xx-nintendo-switch-ver-announced

hah

Please god be out internationally before March 18.

 

[Nirolak]

I know, just wonder what title is it going to be? DMC5? MH5?Okami2?

They didn't give a sales estimate, so it's harder to guess. We know it's 1+ million copies, but we don't know if that's literally just a 1 million expectation or a 5 million expectation or etc.

 

[Jpop]

When Capcom made that statement, the Switch hadn't even been released yet. Do you honestly think that in their comment, they were talking about an unreleased system that looks to succeed the system that they said was holding back Monster Hunter's potential in the west?

They were talking about PS4/XB1/PC.

I'm sure Capcom had no idea about the Switch.