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[Moor-Angol]

For those who thinks DQX will sell about 500k... DQ Collection last year was able to reach about 400k units.

Yes, cause it was a collection of old DQ with traditional RPG gameplay, DQX is different and japanese are a traditional people

look at comgnet (just 100 points) and amazon (around #28), very low for a 2 months release (on a dead platform)

 

[electroplankton]

Yes, cause it was a collection of old DQ with traditional RPG gameplay, DQX is different and japanese are a traditional people

look at comgnet (just 100 points) and amazon (around #28), very low for a 2 months release (on a dead platform)

So how much it will sell?

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

So Terry's Wonderland 3D had the best debut on 3DS according to Famitsu?

Yep. Though given an equal number of days with MH3G it might not have been.

 

[AniHawk]

So how much it will sell?

opening week at 70k tops.

130k overall, tops.

 

[Moor-Angol]

So how much it will sell?

i can't see the future yet


maybe in the next weeks people will get hyped about this game, but considering the actual premises it will sell much less than the previous entries...

 

[electroplankton]

i can't see the future yet


maybe in the next weeks people will get hyped about this game, but considering the actual premises it will sell much less than the previous entries...

And we all agreed on this.
But people said it might have a similar drop as FFXI with respect to FFX, which means DQX will sell 315k units... That's too low imo. A million units should be doable.

 

[Mpl90]

So, guys, Japanese market is much better than US one right now. How do you fell about it? XD

P.S. Comgnet hasn't updated since monday. Do someone know what's up with it? Ninjas, marines, something else?

 

[electroplankton]

Well, it's strange that until few years ago people were saying Japan would be doomed in a short period of time, with UK overcoming it, etc. and now we're seeing this market breathing a bit and US / Europe struggling.

 

[RyougaSaotome]

P3P didn't have a 26 episode TV show and a movie leading up to its release.

Or an extremely popular fighting game either.

Looking forward to checking out stores this weekend and seeing where it's sold out.

 

[Aostia]

And we all agreed on this.
But people said it might have a similar drop as FFXI with respect to FFX, which means DQX will sell 315k units... That's too low imo. A million units should be doable.

Do you know previous Comgnet data for previous DQ main entries?
I know that preorder of that site are not 100% correct to foresee the future, but I think that the 100pt is really indicative of the flop ahead.
P4 was at 192 before release...and it will probably debut with 100k, right?

 

[electroplankton]

Do you know previous Comgnet data for previous DQ main entries?
I know that preorder of that site are not 100% correct to foresee the future, but I think that the 100pt is really indicative of the flop ahead.
P4 was at 192 before release...and it will probably debut with 100k, right?

Dragon Quest X will be out in two months, not tomorrow.
And it doesn't make sense to compare X with the other entries (in terms of preorders) when we all agreed that it won't sell so much. Also, it's a MMORPG and Square Enix will find the project profitable in the long term, with people paying subscriptions, so even with 800-1milion the game will hardly be a flop.

 

[Aostia]

Dragon Quest X will be out in two months, not tomorrow.
And it doesn't make sense to compare X with the other entries (in terms of preorders) when we all agreed that it won't sell so much. Also, it's a MMORPG and Square Enix will find the project profitable in the long term, with people paying subscriptions, so even with 800-1milion the game will hardly be a flop.

I've never talked about profitability. I just talked about sales.
You asked us how much could it sell, we gave you preorders (from Comgnet, not real preorder SE received), and I asked you if you have previous data for the series.
So, if you want to have hints and clues about how could DQX perform, please try to find out previous data for the previous episode, two months before their release.
This could help in understanding DQX actual "tone", in my opinion.

 

[electroplankton]

I've never talked about profitability. I just talked about sales.
You asked us how much could it sell, we gave you preorders (from Comgnet, not real preorder SE received), and I asked you if you have previous data for the series.
So, if you want to have hints and clues about how could DQX perform, please try to find out previous data for the previous episode, two months before their release.
This could help in understanding DQX actual "tone", in my opinion.

You talked about flop and a game is a flop when it's not profitable, regardless of sales (since in the case of MMORPG there are other factors to consider).

Since we all stated that previous entries numbers cannot be reached by any means, I don't think it makes sense to make such comparions (btw, I don't have preorders numbers). DQX will obviously lag behind DQIX and all previous episodes.

 

[Aostia]

You talked about flop and a game is a flop when it's not profitable, regardless of sales (since in the case of MMORPG there are other factors to consider).

Since we all stated that previous entries numbers cannot be reached by any means, I don't think it makes sense to make such comparions (btw, I don't have preorders numbers). DQX will obviously lag behind DQIX and all previous episodes.

Do you know how many copies will DQX have to sell to be profitable and not flop?
Me, I don't know. I usually read and post in the MC sales thread looking at numbers of sales.
I've never thought that due to the higher retail price of PS2 titles DQ8 was more successful than DQ9, for example.
So, what I'm interested in is to foresee its possible MC or Famitsu numbers, honestly.
Obviously, if it will sell 3.8 millions, that are less than the, how much...4.3 millions of DQ9?, I will judge it as a very positive result.
If, as it could be, this title will sell 500K, inmy opinion it will be a flop.
Unfortunately, without the comgnet data for comparison (MPL90 where are you?) is hard to understand if, two months before release, 100 pt are very low, low, similar, higher and so on...

 

[Mpl90]

Do you know how many copies will DQX have to sell to be profitable and not flop?
Me, I don't know. I usually read and post in the MC sales thread looking at numbers of sales.
I've never thought that due to the higher retail price of PS2 titles DQ8 was more successful than DQ9, for example.
So, what I'm interested in is to foresee its possible MC or Famitsu numbers, honestly.
Obviously, if it will sell 3.8 millions, that are less than the, how much...4.3 millions of DQ9?, I will judge it as a very positive result.
If, as it could be, this title will sell 500K, inmy opinion it will be a flop.
Unfortunately, without the comgnet data for comparison (MPL90 where are you?) is hard to understand if, two months before release, 100 pt are very low, low, similar, higher and so on...

In a place where Comgnet is still updating
You know what, Nuas ( let's call each other with the "real nicknames" - such an oxymoron XD )? DQIX was already at something like 2000pt at this point, but it's also due to the fact it had preorders started since 2007, it's a different case here. I could do a comparison with other "minor" titles, but without new updates...

 

[electroplankton]

Do you know how many copies will DQX have to sell to be profitable and not flop?
Me, I don't know. I usually read and post in the MC sales thread looking at numbers of sales.
I've never thought that due to the higher retail price of PS2 titles DQ8 was more successful than DQ9, for example.

No, I don't know since Square Enix did not share any sales projection.
But we do know that MMORPGs have another source of profits: subscriptions. This helped FFXI to be kind of successful without selling as much as previous mainline entries.
Therefore, I'm fairly sure that DQX won't need to sell as DQIX to be succeed.

As for DQIX on DS, its price was lower than DQVIII, but we can think it also costed less, being on a less powerful hardware, and that there also existed an agreement with Nintendo, which helped in promoting and shipping the game in the West.

We only know about sales, but we can build a context where to reason about them.

So, what I'm interested in is to foresee its possible MC or Famitsu numbers, honestly.
Obviously, if it will sell 3.8 millions, that are less than the, how much...4.3 millions of DQ9?, I will judge it as a very positive result.
If, as it could be, this title will sell 500K, inmy opinion it will be a flop.
Unfortunately, without the comgnet data for comparison (MPL90 where are you?) is hard to understand if, two months before release, 100 pt are very low, low, similar, higher and so on...

They are very extremes result. DQX will sell more close to 500k than 3.8 million, but what about 1 million? And what about the fact that it's a MMORPG and Square Enix knowing it wouldn't have the same impact as a tradition jRPG? I don't think the company is expecting numbers on par with other mainline entries, and not even close to be honest.

 

[Aostia]

No, I don't know since Square Enix did not share any sales projection.
But we do know that MMORPGs have another source of profits: subscriptions. This helped FFXI to be kind of successful without selling as much as previous mainline entries.
Therefore, I'm fairly sure that DQX won't need to sell as DQIX to be succeed.

As for DQIX on DS, its price was lower than DQVIII, but we can think it also costed less, being on a less powerful hardware, and that there also existed an agreement with Nintendo, which helped in promoting and shipping the game in the West.

We only know about sales, but we can build a context where to reason about them.



They are very extremes result. DQX will sell more close to 500k than 3.8 million, but what about 1 million? And what about the fact that it's a MMORPG and Square Enix knowing it wouldn't have the same impact as a tradition jRPG? I don't think the company is expecting numbers on par with other mainline entries, and not even close to be honest.

Well, if SE dont' give expectations numbers, we'll judge on our own and in relation to the ST.
Me, I think that this will be a very risky move for SE, that could seriously derail its major brand and its most important profits title of this fiscal year.
If after DQX they will announce another DQ main title as a MMORPG again on a Nintendo home console, we'll have a concrete signal of their happiness about the sales result of this game.

 

[Izayoi]

So, guys, Japanese market is much better than US one right now. How do you fell about it? XD

I feel that I don't give a shit because Western games are getting more awful by the day and all I'm interested in nowadays is Japanese stuff. The better they do, the happier I am.

 

[Aostia]

I feel that I don't give a shit because Western games are getting more awful by the day and all I'm interested in nowadays is Japanese stuff. The better they do, the happier I am.

My main concern: localization (I know that Vita is region free, but 3DS is not and even a region free system is not interesting if they don't translate at least in english). because I don't understand Japanese...

 

[mclem]

Now that SE has announced that kid's time for DQ10 is actually 2 hours every day, I'm thinking that it could sell better than I thought. For those that don't know, kid's time is time where people who aren't paying for a subscription can play for free. The hours (4-6PM on weekdays and 1-3PM on weekends) are such that working adults and older students won't really be able to take advantage of it, but I still think it's a pretty big deal.

On which note: I wonder if you just get unceremoniously dumped out of the game when the deadline is hit? I could see that getting negative responses, particularly if you're in the middle of something co-operative with a subscriber friend who's then suddenly left on his own with a drakee about to eat his face.

 

[Aostia]

So, guys, Japanese market is much better than US one right now. How do you fell about it? XD

P.S. Comgnet hasn't updated since monday. Do someone know what's up with it? Ninjas, marines, something else?

Do we have May monthly figures for the Japanes market? With the total software and hardware numbers, and maybe with the revenues too?
I would like to do a comparison with the US one, due to the latest NPD data released.

 

[cw_sasuke]

On which note: I wonder if you just get unceremoniously dumped out of the game when the deadline is hit? I could see that getting negative responses, particularly if you're in the middle of something co-operative with a subscriber friend who's then suddenly left on his own with a drakee about to eat his face.

I doubt there is much ground to complain, since you already get to play for free - this will probably a reason to get addictive people to pay for it.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

On which note: I wonder if you just get unceremoniously dumped out of the game when the deadline is hit? I could see that getting negative responses, particularly if you're in the middle of something co-operative with a subscriber friend who's then suddenly left on his own with a drakee about to eat his face.

I imagine there'd be some sort of countdown timer. If people want to push it to the limit, that's their problem.

 

[test_account]

So, guys, Japanese market is much better than US one right now. How do you fell about it? XD

P.S. Comgnet hasn't updated since monday. Do someone know what's up with it? Ninjas, marines, something else?

No one have pre-ordered a game since monday, so there isnt anything to update. The market isnt that good afterall :/ Just kidding hehe.

 

[electroplankton]

Well, if SE dont' give expectations numbers, we'll judge on our own and in relation to the ST.
Me, I think that this will be a very risky move for SE, that could seriously derail its major brand and its most important profits title of this fiscal year.
If after DQX they will announce another DQ main title as a MMORPG again on a Nintendo home console, we'll have a concrete signal of their happiness about the sales result of this game.

I don't think the announcement of another MMORPG from the brand on Nintendo hardware will be a sign of anything. I mean, DQX must also be release for Wii U and usually MMORPGs have a pretty long life cycle. Actually, the more DQX will be successful, the less soon we'll see another MMORPG in the series.

 

[mclem]

I doubt there is much ground to complain, since you already get to play for free - this will probably a reason to get addictive people to pay for it.

I imagine there'd be some sort of countdown timer. If people want to push it to the limit, that's their problem.

I'm more worried about the subscriber friend whose ally has suddenly vanished, quite possibly without him being aware that it was due.

That said, it's rather dependent on how the game's structured.

 

[Chris1964]

If comgnet's preorders updates really belong to history it's the best next thing that could happen in these threads.

 

[cw_sasuke]

I'm more worried about the subscriber friend whose ally has suddenly vanished, quite possibly without him being aware that it was due.

That said, it's rather dependent on how the game's structured.

True, but i doubt SE will have the game end abrupt in this cases. Thy probably will mark players and accounts who arent paying. Maybe it will be easier to group those together.

If comgnet's preorders updates really belong to history it's the best next thing that could happen in these threads.

We have still amazon rankings :lol

 

[Chris1964]

Media Create Sales: Week 23, 2012 (Jun 04 - Jun 10)

01./00. [PS3] Tokyo Jungle <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2012.06.07} (¥4.980) - 110.309 / NEW <87,47%>
02./01. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Terry's Wonderland 3D # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.05.31} (¥5.490) - 83.329 / 596.512 (-84%)
03./00. [PSV] Mobile Suit Gundam Seed: Battle Destiny <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.06.07} (¥5.980) - 40.297 / NEW <68,26%>
04./02. [PS3] Dragons Dogma <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.05.24} (¥7.990) - 34.184 / 419.208 (-59%)
05./03. [3DS] Mario Tennis Open <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.05.24} (¥4.800) - 24.030 / 167.154 (-42%)
06./04. [WII] Mario Party 9 <ETC> (Nintendo) {2012.04.26} (¥5.800) - 17.253 / 417.643 (-12%)
07./07. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 9.390 / 1.614.505 (-6%)
08./00. [PSP] Storm Lover Kai!! # <ADV> (D3 Publisher) {2012.06.07} (¥5.040) - 7.931 / NEW
09./09. [3DS] Fire Emblem: Awakening <SLG> (Nintendo) {2012.04.19} (¥4.800) - 7.031 / 408.030 (-27%)
10./10. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 6.743 / 1.735.081 (-13%)
11./12. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 6.146 / 1.471.805 (-12%)
12./05. [3DS] Guild 01 <ETC> (Level 5) {2012.05.31} (¥3.980) - 5.297 / 20.087 (-64%)
13./06. [PS3] Jissen Pachislot Secrets! Fist of the North Star F: Seikimatsu Kyuuseishu Densetsu <TBL> (Sega) {2012.05.31} (¥5.544) - 4.880 / 18.638 (-65%)
14./16. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Wii Remote Plus # <SPT> (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} (¥5.800) - 4.159 / 957.445 (-1%)
15./14. [3DS] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.01} (¥4.800) - 3.888 / 180.244 (-11%)
16./21. [WII] Wii Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} (¥4.800) - 3.342 / 2.361.947
17./18. [3DS] Kid Icarus: Uprising <ACT> (Nintendo) {2012.03.22} (¥5.800) - 3.157 / 287.709 (-21%)
18./26. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800) - 2.568 / 559.947
19./22. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990) - 2.366 / 263.502
20./29. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800) - 2.264 / 3.573.260
21./13. [PSP] Uta no Prince-Sama: Debut # <ACT> (Broccoli) {2012.05.24} (¥6.090)
22./25. [PSP] Pro Baseball Spirits 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2012.03.29} (¥5.980)
23./40. [WII] Taiko no Tatsujin Wii: Definitive Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.23} (¥5.040)
24./28. [3DS] Harvest Moon: A New Beginning <SLG> (Marvelous AQL) {2012.02.23} (¥5.040)
25./27. [WII] Just Dance Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} (¥5.800)
26./33. [3DS] Cho-ricchi! Tamagotchi no Puchi Puchi Omisecchi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.04.19} (¥5.040)
27./31. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800)
28./23. [3DS] Minna no Ennichi <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.05.24} (¥3.990)
29./00. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2011.11.03} (¥4.980)
30./00. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2011.10.06} (¥7.980)
31./08. [PSP] Soukoku no Kusabi: Hiiro no Kakera 3 - Ashita e no Tobira # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2012.05.31} (¥6.090)
32./15. [360] Dragons Dogma <ACT> (Capcom) {2012.05.24} (¥7.990)
33./38. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} (¥4.800)
34./20. [PSP] My Little Sister Can't Be This Cute Portable Can't Be Continuing # <ADV> (Bandai Namco Games) {2012.05.17} (¥6.280)
35./42. [PS3] Gran Turismo 5 XL Edition <RCE> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2012.02.02} (¥4.980)
36./46. [WII] Family Fishing # <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.08.04} (¥5.040)
37./41. [3DS] G1 Grand Prix <SLG> (Genki) {2012.05.24} (¥6.080)
38./39. [WII] Go Vacation <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.10.20} (¥5.800)
39./47. [PS3] Battlefield 3 <ACT> (Electronic Arts) {2011.11.02} (¥7.665)
40./00. [WII] Super Smash Bros. Brawl <FTG> (Nintendo) {2008.01.31} (¥6.800)
41./34. [3DS] Kingdom Hearts 3D -Dream Drop Distance- # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2012.03.29} (¥6.090)
42./44. [PSP] Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (Rockstar Classics) <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2011.07.21} (¥2.500)
43./00. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2009.12.03} (¥5.800)
44./30. [PSP] Persona 2: Eternal Punishment <RPG> (Atlus) {2012.05.17} (¥6.279)
45./45. [3DS] Hatsune Miku and Future Stars: Project Mirai # <ACT> (Sega) {2012.03.08} (¥6.090)
46./11. [PSP] Abunai: Koi no Sousa Shitsu # <ADV> (QuinRose) {2012.05.31} (¥6.300)
47./17. [PSP] BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend <FTG> (Arc System Works) {2012.05.31} (¥5.040)
48./00. [PSP] Taiko no Tatsujin Portable DX <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.07.14} (¥5.229)
49./00. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.12.15} (¥7.980)
50./00. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2011.12.22} (¥7.980)

Top 50

3DS - 16
PSP - 12
WII - 11
PS3 - 8
360 - 1
NDS - 1
PSV - 1

SOFTWARE

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |    592.000 |  1.016.000 |    690.000 | 19.854.000 | 19.338.000 |
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HARDWARE

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  3DS  |     64.875 |    101.075 |     24.649 |  1.940.605 |  1.089.548 |   6.222.748 |
|  PS3  |     15.593 |     14.799 |     17.104 |    588.924 |    567.515 |   8.225.309 |
|  PSV  |     13.383 |      7.551 |            |    291.069 |            |     731.055 |
| PSP # |     10.038 |     10.547 |     26.750 |    414.314 |  1.040.345 |  19.143.698 |
|  WII  |      6.029 |      5.825 |      6.357 |    236.149 |    299.104 |  12.399.370 |
|  PS2  |      1.091 |      1.106 |      1.291 |     27.086 |     37.080 |  21.801.193 |
|  360  |      1.001 |      2.719 |      2.370 |     35.979 |     57.132 |   1.572.024 |
| NDS # |        998 |      1.044 |     10.661 |     41.676 |    466.059 |  32.850.162 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |    113.008 |    144.666 |     89.182 |  3.575.802 |  3.556.783 | 102.945.559 |
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| DSiLL |        615 |        665 |      5.283 |     24.058 |    240.038 |   2.318.377 |
|  DSi  |        383 |        379 |      5.232 |     17.618 |    207.384 |   5.851.668 |
|  PSP  |     10.038 |     10.547 |     26.681 |    414.314 |  1.025.066 |  18.967.711 |
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[Road]

Do you know previous Comgnet data for previous DQ main entries?
I know that preorder of that site are not 100% correct to foresee the future, but I think that the 100pt is really indicative of the flop ahead.
P4 was at 192 before release...and it will probably debut with 100k, right?

If you know Comgnet is not the end all be all, then you also must know is that you do not compared pre-orders for different games.

So, guys, Japanese market is much better than US one right now. How do you fell about it? XD

P.S. Comgnet hasn't updated since monday. Do someone know what's up with it? Ninjas, marines, something else?

Ask them on Twitter: https://twitter.com/COMG_GAME

 

[djtiesto]

So, guys, Japanese market is much better than US one right now. How do you fell about it? XD

P.S. Comgnet hasn't updated since monday. Do someone know what's up with it? Ninjas, marines, something else?

I think it's pretty awesome, as long as niche publishers and the niche Japanese gaming fanbase in the Americas is still around, enough to support localization.

I will begrudgingly admit that retreating to handhelds was a very smart move for J-devs, even if it really hurt their mindshare in the US and the fact that I don't like handheld gaming much. It enabled them to be much more sustainable in the longrun.

Would be nice if J-devs got better with multiplatform gaming.

 

[Takao]

Hmm, I have to wonder what's up with God Eater 2. It seems like that game is taking a long time. Is a Vita SKU on the way like LBX?

 

[cw_sasuke]

Hmm, I have to wonder what's up with God Eater 2. It seems like that game is taking a long time. Is a Vita SKU on the way like LBX?

At least - but even a Vita exclusive could be possible. Maybe they will show it at Vita heaven this month.

 

[Mpl90]

Hmm, I have to wonder what's up with God Eater 2. It seems like that game is taking a long time. Is a Vita SKU on the way like LBX?

At this point, given what happened with LBX, I'm not counting it out. Ports of PSP games aren't the ideal way of making the console sell more...but at least, it's something more concrete than what we've seen in these 6 months.

 

[wsippel]

Hmm, I have to wonder what's up with God Eater 2. It seems like that game is taking a long time. Is a Vita SKU on the way like LBX?

One of the rumors around TGS last year said it was moved to 3DS and Vita if I remember correctly. I think it came from the same source that broke Etrian Odyssey 4, Project Diva and Monster Hunter for 3DS.

 

[electroplankton]

At least - but even a Vita exclusive could be possible. Maybe they will show it at Vita heaven this month.

Could it be land on 3DS?

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Persona 4 posters in Japan: http://youtu.be/ZuQ8023ZIaY

I just realized this is from last week, but cool nonetheless!

 

[Mpl90]

One of the rumors around TGS last year said it was moved to 3DS and Vita if I remember correctly. I think it came from the same source that broke Etrian Odyssey 4, Project Diva and Monster Hunter for 3DS.

GE2 for both 3DS and Vita and Etrian Odyssey were from a different source.

 

[Father_Brain]

One of the rumors around TGS last year said it was moved to 3DS and Vita if I remember correctly. I think it came from the same source that broke Etrian Odyssey 4, Project Diva and Monster Hunter for 3DS.

Nah, I think that was the source that had the bullshit rumors like Good-Feel doing a Yoshi's Island game.

 

[FoneBone]

Nah, I think that was the source that had the bullshit rumors like Good-Feel doing a Yoshi's Island game.

And "Mach Rider Reborn", or some such nonsense...

 

[saichi]

Well, if SE dont' give expectations numbers, we'll judge on our own and in relation to the ST.
Me, I think that this will be a very risky move for SE, that could seriously derail its major brand and its most important profits title of this fiscal year.
If after DQX they will announce another DQ main title as a MMORPG again on a Nintendo home console, we'll have a concrete signal of their happiness about the sales result of this game.

Based on your earlier points, you would probably consider FFXI a flop. However, it turned out to be SE's biggest money maker ever because of the subscriptions even though it never sold anywhere close to previous FF games.

Also regardless DQX is success or not, you will not see another DQ MMORPG for a while. If it's success, SE will just release expansion for the game to main the subscription revenue stream. It's a lot less risky than releasing a brand new game (even if it's a sequel) and expect the same audience to jump in again. If it's not successful, then certainly there is no point to try again for a long time. Maybe they will try to make it a Social/Mobile game next time.

 

[Mpl90]

Based on your earlier points, you would probably consider FFXI a flop. However, it turned out to be SE's biggest money maker ever because of the subscriptions even though it never sold anywhere close to previous FF games.

Also regardless DQX is success or not, you will not see another DQ MMORPG for a while. If it's success, SE will just release expansion for the game to main the subscription revenue stream. It's a lot less riskier that releasing a brand new game (even if it's a sequel) and expect the same audience to jump in again. If it's not successful, then certainly there is no point to try again for a long time. Maybe they will try to make it a Social/Mobile game next time.

Oh yeah, if the game does good, we'll see a shit load of expansions.
As a recent example, just look at Monster Hunter Frontier on 360.

 

[Alexios]

As a recent example, just look at Monster Hunter Frontier on 360.

You mean PC too. It was getting expansions long before it got the 360 port. I don't think that version is solely the cause for the continued support of the game, even if they still port the new content to it. But I wouldn't expect that many expansions for DQX even if it does better than any other, MMORPGs can't just add a few monsters and a small area and call it a day like MonHun can. WoW for example hasn't had that many expansions despite being so long running and popular.

Even their last financial report I saw mentioned both versions as one game: "the online exclusive 'Monster Hunter Frontier Online' series (for PC and Xbox 360) showed steady growth supported by its stable popularity." It doesn't seem so relevant to me considering it was an already successful game in a long running series (all home system MonHuns had online play with fees, although only Frontier is treated more like an MMORPG so far, perhaps because it was easiest since it was on PC) ported to a new platform rather than an all new direction that we can't know how well it will be adopted by fans of the series, or even new players.

 

[Mpl90]

You mean PC. It was getting expansions long before it got the 360 port. I don't think that one version is solely to praise for the continued support.

It's the most recent case on console, and Capcom itself said the game was successful.

 

[electroplankton]

You mean PC too. It was getting expansions long before it got the 360 port. I don't think that version is solely the cause for the continued support of the game, even if they still port the new content to it. But I wouldn't expect that many expansions for DQX even if it does better than any other, MMORPGs can't just add a few monsters and a small area and call it a day like MonHun can. WoW for example hasn't had that many expansions despite being so long running and popular.

Well, Final Fantasy XI got 4 expansions in just 5 years.

 

[Takao]

Could it be land on 3DS?

I don't think it would take 10 months for a 3DS version to manifest itself.

 

[donny2112]

OP updated.

PSV - 1

So that means only one Vita game in the Top 50 with #50 probably being < 2K. So there might be 45-50K total retail software sold for the Vita this week. Wow.

Spoiler

Huge weekly tie ratio.

 

[Aostia]

About DQX I think that to be considered good should not decrese too much from previous main episodes of the series.
The fee/bill could "cover" a decrease, but the gap should not be huge, at I fear it could be up to know, judging from the lack of interest that I feel through the web.


Changing topic: I've found the data for May:
http://andriasang.com/con1i4/may_software_revenues/

Nintendo was May's biggest publisher in terms of software revenues. Stats released today by Enterbrain and Famitsu show that Nintendo commanded 27.8% of software revenue shares for the month. Capcom came in second with 26.4%, followed by Namco Bandai at 12.2%, Konami at 4.3% and Square Enix at 3.0%.

Thhis is just software, if anyone find also hadware data...

 

[Jokeropia]

About DQX I think that to be considered good should not decrese too much from previous main episodes of the series.

What is too much? FFXI sold slightly over 700k all versions combined (the original release only did 150k), while the comparable number for FFX is 3 million (2.3m for the original release). Still FFXI was a hugely successful venture for Square Enix.

 

[Boney]

I wonder how much Mirai has done.

How many weeks has it been since it's been out of the top 20?