Nintendo probably wouldn't be able to support something like that at launch now that I think about it.Could you imagine if YW2 was a 4DS launch title right now instead? The thing would be wrecking shit like none other.
Nintendo probably wouldn't be able to support something like that at launch now that I think about it.Could you imagine if YW2 was a 4DS launch title right now instead? The thing would be wrecking shit like none other.
That's a higher sell-through for Bayonetta than I thought. Wasn't it supposed to be ~55%? Or is that Famitsu versus Media Creates shenanigans at work?
Media Create
03./00. [WIU] Bayonetta 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.09.20} (¥8.316) - 38.828 / NEW <67,29%> [Units shipped => 57.702 copies]
Pokemon ORAS pre-orders are 239k during their first weekend (20th and 21st).
Pre-orders for Pokemon XY were 260k at the same time (9 weeks before the release).
Media Create
03./00. [WIU] Bayonetta 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.09.20} (¥8.316) - 38.828 / NEW <67,29%> [Units shipped => 57.702 copies]
Pokemon ORAS pre-orders are 239k during their first weekend (20th and 21st).
Pre-orders for Pokemon XY were 260k at the same time (9 weeks before the release).
Media Create
03./00. [WIU] Bayonetta 2 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2014.09.20} (¥8.316) - 38.828 / NEW <67,29%> [Units shipped => 57.702 copies]
Pokemon ORAS pre-orders are 239k during their first weekend (20th and 21st).
Pre-orders for Pokemon XY were 260k at the same time (9 weeks before the release).
55% is Dengeki. Famitsu has 40-60%.That's a higher sell-through for Bayonetta than I thought. Wasn't it supposed to be ~55%? Or is that Famitsu versus Media Creates shenanigans at work?
Lol the irony in this statement. If I hadn't kept up with gaming in Japan I woulda thought a natural disaster had nearly destroyed Japan.Just noticed, Dragon quest 10 hit 100k on famitsu, impressive
55% is Dengeki. Famitsu has 40-60%.
I'm not sure how people are taking that as good sell-through for a game like Bayonetta...
Uhh, there's no irony in that statement.Lol the irony in this statement. If I hadn't kept up with gaming in Japan I woulda thought a natural disaster had nearly destroyed Japan.
Praise jesus!
Amazon.co.jp received a new shipment for Bayonetta 2! That means they placed a new order!!!!!!
Success!
If you're using superior tracker or Dengeki, then I don't know if I see it.
Bayonetta 1 PS3 sold about 67% of its lifetime sales in the first week, 360, about 60%.
It will likely follow a typical core blockbuster sales curve (even though it's sales are anything but.)
I guess it will depend on what kind of drop it sees next week.
Superior tracker is not sharing the exact figure, it's ambiguous.
Dengeki rounds to 5 or 0. So even the true sellthrough is 57% for them, they round to 55%.
Going by the tracker that shares the exactly sellthrough it will sell it's first shipment.
Hey, at least it's something if one key location needed a new order.
well both Famitsu and Dengeki seem to be pointing towards the 55% range, so...... (also that would be expected, Media Create has the highest numbers for it)
Uhh, there's no irony in that statement.
100k for a subscription based MMO is really good.
Not to mention that it's not even a native game, but streaming.
And this is after it sold over 700k on Wii/Wii U (excluding the expansion).
More traditional Dragon Quest titles are still doing well on 3DS.
Dragon Quest Monsters 2 sold over 720k several months ago.
Going by any of the trackers it would still take an extended period of time to sell through that first (and probably only) shipment, unless it holds surprisingly well.Superior tracker is not sharing the exact figure, it's ambiguous.
Dengeki rounds to 5 or 0. So even the true sellthrough is 57% for them, they round to 55%.
Going by the tracker that shares the exact sellthrough, it will sell its first shipment.
Going by any of the trackers it would still take an extended period of time to sell through that first (and probably only) shipment, unless it holds surprisingly well.
19. [PSV] Monster Hunter Frontier G: Beginner's Package <ACT> (Capcom) {2014.08.13} (¥6.264) - 31.229 (0) / 31.229
Going by any of the trackers it would still take an extended period of time to sell through that first (and probably only) shipment, unless it holds surprisingly well.
http://gamesmaya.blog98.fc2.com/blog-entry-2610.html?sp在庫が少なめなのでお早めにどうぞ!
http://mantan-web.jp/2014/09/23/20140923dog00m200022000c.html?mode=pc新作の「ベヨネッタ2」(WiiU、任天堂)は5位と健闘。一時品薄になるほどの人気でした。
The second shipment probably already happened. Last week reports from retailers were talking about small shipment. Tsutaya also said some stock problems. (Also the Amazon.jp sold out).
GamesMaya:
http://gamesmaya.blog98.fc2.com/blog-entry-2610.html?sp
Tsutaya:
http://mantan-web.jp/2014/09/23/20140923dog00m200022000c.html?mode=pc
So, maybe the superior tracker sample is not that superior this week.
At this point, nothing will revive the Wii U short of a huge Wii Sports type of hit, killing it prematurely is pointless because the loyal fans they have now only care whether Nintendo will keep supporting it with some titles til the end of its life, releasing a successor now just for the sake of it won't help the software situation one bit. People are only buying Wii Us for their games, the hardware is underwhelming by itself. For example the iphone sells to more than just gamers but if you're not interested in Nintendo games, then the Wii U is largely irrelevant, so if Nintendo stopped support for the Wii U prematurely, there's absolutely no point even buying it and the people who bought it already will feel the burn even more. It's why generations exist, not only because of the platform holders, but the market expects a level of support, regardless of how the console is performing in the market.I should probably clarify the "irrelevant" with the qualifier, "at this stage."
The system has been supported. It's gotten those marquis titles, 3D Mario, 2D Mario, Donkey Kong, Mario Kart. It will have Smash soon. And Zelda is really the last staple.
It's why I don't really see how more prolonged droughts, with a failed product crawling along the market floor actually mitigates any stigma. How any loyal fanbase is better served in that scenario.
Also, although I think that if it were feasible to launch a new product ASAP, I recognise it likely isn't. However, they need to seriously reconfigure the product that they are offering, and towards that end they should really be thinking about removing the GamePad and thus being able to reduce the price significantly so they can try to appeal to more price sensitive families.
I disagree on any "loyal fans" driving the PS4's current sales success. It's a combination of modern supply chains facilitating higher sales, coupled with making a product that's been positioned incredibly well towards the target market segment.
YW2 only feels early because YW didn't blow up instantly, it took a long time to have a real impact on the market. IIRC It was performing pretty similar to titles like Fantasy Life in its early life, it wasn't until the anime came out that it had a second life. Quick sequels is pretty much the norm for L5, they're pretty good at milking an IP for all its worth.What's the best course of action?
I before thought it was ludicrous for YW2 to come out so soon, only a year after the original, then the game goes and I think outsells the original's LTD on the first day/week.
Would YW3 next year be too soon or another legendary hit?
It feels like just a stop-gap solution atm, so we'll see how serious they are, but if we look at the DS, they continued to support it like a true successor.I really think it could happen. I see a Nintendo mobile device pretty close to their handheld bussiness. I mean, the could unify console and handheld and that handheld could have mobile devices capabilities. If they are smart, could release in its launch, Youkai Watch 4, Bayonetta 2, and FExSMT.
a duckroll sounds pretty delish, i'd definitely smash thatShow me where this duckroll fellow was port-begging and I'll kick his ass! I hate port-beggers!
First Day Sellthrough:
[PS3] [PSV] The Legend Of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki II (Nihon Falcom) - 70% Good Start
[PSV] DanganRonpa: Another Episode (Spike Chunsoft) - 70% Best Shipment (I don't know if he is talking about this week's releases or this series)
[PSV] Dungeon Travelers 2: Ouritsu Tokoshan to Mamono no Fuuin (Aqua Plus) - 60-70% selling as was assumed
[3DS] Haikyu!! Tsunage! Itadaki no Keshiki!! (Bandai Namco Games) - 50% Good for a 3DS game but not as good for the characters it has
I thought this one would do better first week. Maybe 50K sold out of a 100K shipment?
If you're using superior tracker or Dengeki, then I don't know if I see it.
Bayonetta 1 PS3 sold about 67% of its lifetime sales in the first week, 360, about 60%.
It will likely follow a typical core blockbuster sales curve (even though it's sales are anything but.)
I guess it will depend on what kind of drop it sees next week.
So its unlikely to get another shipment?
LTD of 60-70k.....just about matching the first week of sales on 360.
Any chance you could summarize those links Hiska? I think GamesMaya said something about Fatal Frame in relation to Bayo 2 (Google Translate was terrible in this case). So does that mean that retailers had super pessimistic estimates for Bayo 2 and were surprised and had to order a second batch at least? That's cool I guess. If Tsutaya was sold out before, at least it would explain the lower ranking this past week despite it selling quite a bit better overall. Maybe Amazon JP had more stock and thus more folks bought it from there or something? It's interesting at least.
I love how I've read no hiska-kun posts ;p
GamesMaya Said:
- Today is the release day for Bayonetta 2. Most of the buyers are people who had pre-order. The game is not moving hardware.
- But after Bayonetta 2, next week Fatal Frame V follows. I'm starting to hear voices of guests saying "I should buy a Wii U?" "maybe it's time to buy it".
- The stock is small, so hurry!
Tsutaya said the game was popular enough to face stock problems.
Wait, Fatal Frame is the game they're mentioning could have stock problems? Or Bayo? Interesting about Fatal though. Never thought it could the larger title of the two...
Some retailers are apparently reordering some amount of units.So its unlikely to get another shipment?
LTD of 60-70k.....just about matching the first week of sales on 360.
Some retailers are apparently reordering some amount of units.
Which in turn is being taken that it won't hit bargain bins to sell out the initial shipment across the retail market, when even under the optimistic MC scenario there's still 20,000 units in the retail channel...
I'm not sure if the corollary that's being drawn is that "supply issues" are part of the reason for bomba.
Regardless, based on past entries, I'd say something around 60K LTD is a realistic expectation.
I thknk that the main lesson here is that with the Wii U Nintendo was even able to create itself a "sell-in" issue with retailers (we know this also for the West, even if things are improving recently), something unusual for them.
And one of the reasons why they are at least trying to push the eshop.
Ah ok, i see. I thought you ment "want more" regarding the Vita when you said that it wasnt just because of the PS4.
Vita will most likely be supported and produced for some more years, so it wont be abandoned anytime soon.
EDIT: I fixed a typo.
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|System | This Week | Last Week | Last Year | YTD | Last YTD |
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| ALL | 669.000 | 1.439.000 | 794.000 | 27.511.000 | 30.875.000 |
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