foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
They could if they just keep the switch version in japan
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If I remember correctly, Sakurai himself stated that the DLC characters were developed after the game released, so they had nothing to announce. Even though we can't know for sure, I'm inclined to believe him, especially considering the ballot.
At the end of the day the pricing wasn't that good, but it was the opposite approach to what Capcom is doing with MvC:I. From an external point of view (not a fan of the genre or this game in particular) it seems like the PR was mishandled since the start.
But then they're not capturing all potential markets, and then they have to be running two concurrent MH series, which seems to fly in the face of their decision of a multiplat MHW.
Considering they do 80% or more return sales on the G rank games at full price they'd have to find some way to seriously monetize the game without driving everyone away that would be worth more/cost less to produce than that.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
This isn't going to happen. They already have a Monster Hunter game on their platform and will continue to receive Monster Hunter games for the foreseeable future. They have absolutely no reason to shop around and partner with other third parties to fill a void that doesn't even exist, with games that won't sell anything close to what Monster Hunter sells anyway.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
But that's what we are all assuming, that they are making a portable version, for some reason instead of just porting MHW which we would know by now if they were but there's been no word and even more so when they decided to be at Sony's presser at tgs
Even Capcom isn't dumb enough to announce a version of a game on a system people actually like in Japan with the feature they want to play the game before actually releasing the version due out in a few months.
While I think Switch will see more MH games in the future, XX being on the Switch does not guarantee that, and we are talking about Capcom, which is on a surprisingly successful run of blunders as of recent.
OrbitalBeard
Member
I think if you're a Monster Hunter fan living in Japan and own a Switch, you're going to be just fine, though not for awhile.
I think if you're a Monster Hunter fan living in the west and own a Switch, I'd probably be a bit wary of the future.
My guess is Monster Hunter on Switch will receive little to no western support from Capcom. It will not launch globally on day one, Nintendo will handle marketing, and they may even be the publisher outside of Japan.
I think Monster Hunter World + its DLC and expansions will be Capcom USA's priority for the foreseeable future.
I think if you're a Monster Hunter fan living in the west and own a Switch, I'd probably be a bit wary of the future.
My guess is Monster Hunter on Switch will receive little to no western support from Capcom. It will not launch globally on day one, Nintendo will handle marketing, and they may even be the publisher outside of Japan.
I think Monster Hunter World + its DLC and expansions will be Capcom USA's priority for the foreseeable future.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Nintendo doesn't need Monster Hunter. They own every monster franchise in Japan literally besides Dragon Quest and Monster Hunter. Like if anybody could ever afford to just not court a major third party franchise it's Nintendo. But like why wouldn't they try to have it all? Why let it slip away when its mutually beneficial? Sounds more like fanboy dreams than reality honesty.
silpheed-mcd
Member
Hardware sales since the Switch launch, Week 9, 2017 (Feb 27 - Mar 05) ----> Week 38, 2017 (Sep 18 - Sep 24)
MEDIA-CREATE
SWITCH: 1.710.953
3DS: 921.159
(n-2DSLL: 294.352)
PS4: 909.878
(PS4 PRO: 189.625)
PSV: 157.842
PS3: 14.461
WiiU: 7.035
XONE: 4.462
NINTENDO: 2.639.147
SONY: 1.082.181
MICROSOFT: 4.462
ALL: 3.725.790
FAMITSU
SWITCH: 1.734.083
PS4: 904.244
(PS4 PRO: 176.893)
3DS: 892.416
(n-2DSLL: 300.858)
PSV: 163.322
PS3: 11.933
WiiU: 7.691
XONE: 2.817
NINTENDO: 2.634.190
SONY: 1.079.499
MICROSOFT: 2.817
ALL: 3.716.506
MEDIA-CREATE
SWITCH: 1.710.953
3DS: 921.159
(n-2DSLL: 294.352)
PS4: 909.878
(PS4 PRO: 189.625)
PSV: 157.842
PS3: 14.461
WiiU: 7.035
XONE: 4.462
NINTENDO: 2.639.147
SONY: 1.082.181
MICROSOFT: 4.462
ALL: 3.725.790
FAMITSU
SWITCH: 1.734.083
PS4: 904.244
(PS4 PRO: 176.893)
3DS: 892.416
(n-2DSLL: 300.858)
PSV: 163.322
PS3: 11.933
WiiU: 7.691
XONE: 2.817
NINTENDO: 2.634.190
SONY: 1.079.499
MICROSOFT: 2.817
ALL: 3.716.506
BrokenJohnCena
Member
Wonder if Nintendo will invest in some casual friendly IPs like Nintendo or Brain Training
It's just like the original ds,it didn't even need monster hunter to sell over 30 million consoles.Nintendo's entire first party Ips alone are more than enough
Jon Carter
Member
When a 1,600-unit discrepancy between trackers over a 30-week period seems big, you know it's time to launch a more expensive version of the system.
James Scott
Banned
Brain training and Nintendogs seem ripe for a mobile come back.
They've already confirmed that. They're developing different kinds of titles for Switch that are similar to these in their vision.
BrokenJohnCena
Member
I mean while those ips could transitioning to mobile,I think they could pull a double duty and release those types of games on switch as well
kuroneko0509
Member
Nintendo probably a bit wary doing non-mobile entry for the 2 series, considering large drop for the series from ds -> 3ds
Its actually not a terrible idea, the 2+ million gamers in Japan who bought 4U/X but won't be buying World aren't all going to cease to exist overnight, after all.
Its not even a case of needing to shop around, there's a definite vacuum on the co-op hunting (or just general co-op action) genre on the system since the only current feed on it is a low-effort port that got more marketing from Nintendo than it did from Capcom.
And for a system like the Switch which Nintendo has been pushing hard for that co-op action (the verb, not the genre), finding a game to fill that void makes fairly logical sense. If Capcom's offering on the genre/hole won't show up for a year or more (and if Nintendo was well aware of this years in advance), you could conceivably see a new project fill that void. And it could come around fairly quickly.
Hell, for as little as we know of Retro's project, *it* could be a MH clone where you kill monsters to make steaks!
Realistically, a new MH won't (and really can't) show up on the Switch until 2019. If it shows up in 2018, it undermines the notion of GaaS/long-term revenue tail on World. That's 9-moths of 2017, 12 moths of 2018, and X months of 2019. That's an enormous vacuum of time on a very software-hungry system with a good forward momentum (and also a good amount of time for you to lose your entire unserved audience but that's a problem for Capcom) on a product (and given sales trends, audience) that *loves* this type of co-op game. If you're a project manager either for Nintendo or a third-party, that's a very hot underserved market that you know existed as late as just last year (X/Generations). Why wouldn't you want to try and tap it or, in Nintendo's case, try to tap it and not have to deal with Capcom?
I think this actually a *prime* opportunity for someone to eat Capcom's lunch for a market they've seemingly taken for granted. This is the first time that we'll have a situation where it isn't a "clone" on console vs. an active and successful MH audience on handheld, but a MH on console and a potential "clone" on a handheld with 2+ million of the aforementioned active audience completely unserved for XY months.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Only a remastered Zack & Wiki can fill the gap created by Monster Hunter. You know what to do Capcom.
Claude Augario
Member
Spyborgs 2 it is!
AquaWateria
Member
Lol Retro making a Monster Hunter game.
Shit would be hilarious.
Shit would be hilarious.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Man I was bored reading pages and pages of Monster Hunter shitstorm again and again so I skipped straight from page 7 to this one and it's still not over?
Would be nice a to have a filter that automatically removed every post Monster Hunter related once you click on it.
Still 4 months to go before launch *sigh*
Would be nice a to have a filter that automatically removed every post Monster Hunter related once you click on it.
Still 4 months to go before launch *sigh*
8 X 11 Printer Paper
Member
Give us Gotcha Force 2, and when localized find even worse voice actors then the original entry.
To Retro's credit, they have showed impeccable skill at adapting a series they have never previously worked with into phenomenal games.
Not that I was being serious, but as a studio, they definitely have a golden thumb for mechanical excellence.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Can anyone explain why KT is releasing 3 games on the same system on the same day? Is there like any logical reason for this? I'm struggling here.
BrokenJohnCena
Member
There is no need for a monster hunter clone either,all Nintendo needs to do right now is to swallow that empty coop action rpg hole right now and that's it
AdventureRacing
Member
It will only get worse after release.
AquaWateria
Member
It ends up eating Capcom's lunch.
Still I doubt it ever happens tho. It's gonna be a Donkey Kong game.
Godzilla's Left Toe
Member
This is my expectation.
"ouch, bad holds for MH"
"lol, what are you talking about? That's good for ___ reasons"
"sure, but not comapred to _____. Capcpcame won't be happy"
"Oh, please enlighten us about Capcom's expectations."
"The salt that PS4's "big game" isn't doing better than ___ is real"
"The salt that japan's holy savior doesn't have the "big game" is real"
call me tony romo
edit: well actually 3/4 of this happens daily already
That spot will be taken by X-2 for sure lol. Now give me that edgy Dragon dogma clone retroooo.
BrokenJohnCena
Member
Screw X2,I hate action based online games
Save on shipping costs?
Forgot the "_____ is a beast" comment.
BrokenJohnCena
Member
Also the "_____ is a handheld,it doesn't count,you people are Nintendo fanboys and trying to downplay the ps4"
So two mobile games I know of came out or are coming out today.
Sora to Umi no Aida will be released later today from Forwardworks.
And Capcom soft-launched Puzzle Fighter.
Sora to Umi no Aida will be released later today from Forwardworks.
And Capcom soft-launched Puzzle Fighter.
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
Don't forget the "It could/would have done better if it was on ______ platform"
Jon Carter
Member
Fixed.
So we can expect similar conversations if Puzzle Fighter underperformed?
CaviarMeths
Member
Also known as their FY2018 strategy.
Who is saying anything about shopping around? Or do you think Nintendo had to pay for Octopath or SMT announcements? Switch is the future of the portable market and balling. Ever publisher that has a MH type title in works will likely be in talks to Nintendo and talk about the business side like how and when to best launch the game if they care for that market.
Not even talking about exclusivity but when titles like Godeater 3 hit on Switch that's likely where the marketing focus will be. I still hope to see a FF Explorers type game from SE for the Switch with a higher budget.
All other players won't just wait until Capcom decides to bring a game to Switch...as said you will see announcements as early as next year regarding this market.
Bruno MB
Member
Prediction League August 2017 Results
Congratulations to:
- Prototype Viktor, for winning by units!
- Chris1964, for winning by mean error %!
Mess!
Note: Max percentage error is capped at 150%.
Congratulations to:
- Prototype Viktor, for winning by units!
- Chris1964, for winning by mean error %!
Code:
BY UNITS BY MEAN ERROR %
1 Prototype Viktor 59.016 1 Chris1964 44,99%
2 Chris1964 94.207 2 Prototype Viktor 46,15%
3 casiopao 110.271 3 Bruno MB 64,02%
4 Bruno MB 121.271 4 DKHF 64,04%
5 LordKano 130.271 5 casiopao 64,28%
6 astrogamer 132.271 6 Yagami_Sama 64,32%
7 Skullwaker 135.271 7 astrogamer 64,79%
8 Hawkens 135.271 8 Yeshua 68,27%
9 Yeshua 137.891 9 LordKano 69,25%
10 DKHF 141.165 10 Skullwaker 70,51%
11 dno_1966 145.271 11 DrWong 71,86%
12 Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule 146.271 12 Daphnes Nohansen Hyrule 74,44%
13 Eolz 158.271 13 dno_1966 75,06%
14 Yagami_Sama 159.898 14 Eolz 75,15%
15 DrWong 165.271 15 TheLegendaryN 75,34%
16 Mr Swine 175.281 16 Mr Swine 77,47%
17 TheLegendaryN 189.891 17 Hawkens 79,85%
18 noshten 238.271 18 noshten 96,62%
Code:
Famitsu Yeshua Yagami_SamChris1964 DKHF Prototype Mr Swine TheLegenda DrWong astrogamerDaphnes No LordKano Skullwaker noshten Hawkens dno_1966 Bruno MB Eolz casiopao
[PS4] New Everybody's Golf 144.511 120.000 132.183 123.456 153.476 166.000 131.400 90.000 135.000 124.000 200.000 175.000 175.000 140.000 250.000 165.000 165.000 108.000 100.000
[PS4] Destiny 2 74.713 120.000 97.543 89.012 130.398 66.001 126.000 170.000 105.000 87.000 120.000 85.000 90.000 165.000 90.000 95.000 115.000 112.000 100.000
[PS4] Uncharted: The Lost Legacy 26.641 40.000 33.876 34.567 50.687 44.700 67.890 100.000 43.000 65.000 80.000 60.000 65.000 65.000 65.000 65.000 75.000 79.000 50.000
[3DS] Metroid: Samus Returns 36.310 15.000 47.876 45.678 29.913 35.000 16.800 35.000 85.000 40.000 41.000 55.000 45.000 44.000 50.000 55.000 40.000 54.000 40.000
[PS4] Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite 10.105 30.000 56.765 56.789 41.431 26.000 56.000 22.000 60.000 60.000 35.000 50.000 50.000 39.000 50.000 45.000 36.000 47.000 30.000
[NSW] Pokken Tournament DX 51.960 90.000 123.567 67.890 75.671 67.000 69.300 60.000 72.000 80.000 70.000 80.000 85.000 125.000 80.000 85.000 55.000 66.000 90.000
Code:
STATISTICS FAMITSU GAF_AVG UNDER OVER MIN MAX CLOSEST BY
[PS4] New Everybody's Golf 144.511 147.418 61% 39% 90.000 250.000 140.000 noshten
[PS4] Destiny 2 74.713 109.053 6% 94% 66.001 170.000 66.001 Prototype Viktor
[PS4] Uncharted: The Lost Legacy 26.641 60.207 0% 100% 33.876 100.000 33.876 Yagami_Sama
[3DS] Metroid: Samus Returns 36.310 43.015 28% 72% 15.000 85.000 35.000 Protoype Viktor
[PS4] Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite 10.105 43.944 0% 100% 22.000 60.000 22.000 TheLegendaryN
[NSW] Pokken Tournament DX 51.960 80.079 0% 100% 55.000 123.567 55.000 Bruno MBMess!
Note: Max percentage error is capped at 150%.
BrokenJohnCena
Member
I don't think GE3 will be on switch,it's too late for Bamco to do anything right now.There could be a coop action rpg that eat that piece of the cake that capcom left on the table,but it doesn't have to be a hunting game
Switch already has its go-to co-op action game and it's going to be bigger than any Monster Hunter game release this gen.
The only remaining Hunting Action games were already moving to the PS4. They will only be bolstered by the market leader doing the same. God Eater would never have it's marketing focus on Switch, even if it did release there.
The only remaining Hunting Action games were already moving to the PS4. They will only be bolstered by the market leader doing the same. God Eater would never have it's marketing focus on Switch, even if it did release there.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
You said that you think they will work with 3rd parties to fill the void. Hunting action games in development in Japan will likely end up on Switch given the system that it is, but Nintendo has no reason to proactively partner with third parties to "fill a void" left by a franchise that will see releases on the Switch for years to come. Why? Because Nintendo knows that Monster Hunter still has a future on the Switch, even if their fans don't just yet.
Heh, 2019 isn't that far away. Unless something is in development already, no developer is going to spot that void on the Switch now and begin developing a game that will release before the next Monster Hunter Switch title. Given that timescale, I still see no need for Nintendo to partner with anyone, especially considering how many of you keep saying that Nintendo doesn't need Monster Hunter to be successful. Third parties will try and take advantage of this gap with games that are maybe already in development, but Nintendo has zero need to do anything other than keep doing what they're doing until the next MH game for Switch hits.