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Media Create Sales: Week 41, 2011 (Oct 10 - Oct 16)
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frankie_baby
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With the pink 3ds being released tomorrow with no new software (apart from tetris) what (if any) older games can people see getting dragged back up into the top 20? I'm thinking the pokemon spin off, nintencats and maybe layton
electroplankton
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I do think software is still selling at the bottom of the chart, as we have recently seen for games such as Samurai Warriors and Street Fighter.
frankie_baby
Member
NOt without a price cut I don't think, and I'm thinking they're leaving it a bit late to squeeze a price cut in this year nowEXGN said:
frankie_baby
Member
I'm thinking with pink obviously appealing to women and layton also doing then that could mean a boostAlrus said:
Mmh, but
08./00. [PSP] Class of heroes Mono. Final: Shinnyusei wa Ohimesama <RPG> (Acquire) {2011.10.13} (¥5.040) - 16.904 / NEW
Strange: the last one on PSP and PS3...
05. / 00. [PSP] Class of Heroes 3 (Acquire) - 30.572 / NEW
12. / 00. [PS3] Class of Heroes 3 (Acquire) - 14.892 / NEW
And not so distant from the 3DS one
16./00. [3DS] Class of Heroes 3D | RPG | (Acquire) {2011.07.07} | ¥5.800 | - 8.353 / NEW
08./00. [PSP] Class of heroes Mono. Final: Shinnyusei wa Ohimesama <RPG> (Acquire) {2011.10.13} (¥5.040) - 16.904 / NEW
Strange: the last one on PSP and PS3...
05. / 00. [PSP] Class of Heroes 3 (Acquire) - 30.572 / NEW
12. / 00. [PS3] Class of Heroes 3 (Acquire) - 14.892 / NEW
And not so distant from the 3DS one
16./00. [3DS] Class of Heroes 3D | RPG | (Acquire) {2011.07.07} | ¥5.800 | - 8.353 / NEW
walking fiend
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No, it barely managed to catch up last year.Dragon said:
electroplankton
Banned
Mpl90 said:
And there were people complaining about the 3DS version sales!
3DS actually stabilized. And it did si at ~55k per week. Wow. itprintsmoney.gif
I don't know. With this many people buying early and Nintendo doing a fantastic job of replenishing 3DS supply even at launch, it might be fine. I'm way more concerned about Vita, especially since there's actual incentive to import it.blu said:
test_account
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Did we get any numbers before today?electroplankton said:
EDIT: Oops, nevermind, i looked at a different game, but i now see that the 3DS version came out some months ago
EXGN said:
Only in 2007 the Wii sold over 500k more than the PS3 in the remaining weeks.
If the PS3 keeps tracking similarly to 2010, it would sell another 450k this year. In that case, the Wii would need to replicate 2007's performance to end up ahead of the PS3.
If the PS3 has a bad holiday season like 2008 -- 300k, the Wii would still need to sell over 800k, which is 200k more than it did last year.
It looks unlikely, but who knows.
electroplankton
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test_account said:
Barely 9k units in the first week.
test_account
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Yeah, i looked at ther wrong game, sorryelectroplankton said:
I thought that the 3DS game came out this week, but i see that it came out some months ago.walking fiend
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it doesn't matter, for it to pass PS3, it has to outsell it by almost 50K from now till Jan, or by 110k for the whole December. 500K is 2.5 times the 200k.noobie said:
And also PS3 has been enjoying a very good line-up this year, and will end in XIII-2
I find it interesting that the psp and ps3 are managing to sell nearly the same year to year after such a long time on the market while Nintendo is strugelling to outmatch their last year performance with a new console on the market.
The DS hit is understandable, but the Wii should have sold better this year. Lets see if Kirby and Zelda can compensate this in the holiday season.
The DS hit is understandable, but the Wii should have sold better this year. Lets see if Kirby and Zelda can compensate this in the holiday season.
SpaceDrake
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Ao no Kiseki's still doing about what I'd expect. Given the usual purchasing habits around these games and the blind spots in MC's data, they really are going to break 200k by January, which is fantastic. So happy for Falcom.
I'm also a little surprised to see Ace Combat doing that well - I would've thought the real world setting plus the fact that it was written by ~a foreigner~ would turn more people in Japan off.
I'm also a little surprised to see Ace Combat doing that well - I would've thought the real world setting plus the fact that it was written by ~a foreigner~ would turn more people in Japan off.
Magicpaint
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This 3DS situation is a bit strange, lol.
EXGN said:
I'm not saying or suggesting the Wii will pass the PS3 by the end of the year (I doubt it will, personally), but there's more to the Wii software situation than Skyward Sword this holiday season. Kirby, Just Dance and Rhythm Tengoku will figure in as key releases, too, IMO.
Really, though, this holiday season is going to be all about 3DS -- and rightly so
It's completely understandable why 3DS software isn't selling.
1. As has already been said, there's a lot of anticipation for upcoming titles and worries of shortages;
2. There's a massive used software market in Japan, and new 3DS titles are expensive in comparison;
3. It comes with quite a bit of free software, including Four Swords;
4. There's the e-Shop, which probably accounts for a few sales;
5. There's the gigantic DS back catalogue;
6. You can count the must-own 3DS titles on your hand.
Bonus: We don't know what sales below the weekly top-sellers are. Even if they're only selling a couple thousand each, the sales of Layton, Star Fox, nintendogs, Pilotwings, Resident Evil, and Street Fighter are probably giving 10 - 20% of new owners something to play.
This is typical for most consoles especially Nintendo consoles. We're always going to experience software droughts for the first year of a system's life. Even PS2 and DS had them. 3DS is different to most new systems in Japan, in that its first Christmas will boast software launches from three of the five-or-so largest portable franchises, and lots of smaller-scale releases (like Rocket Slime) to help.
1. As has already been said, there's a lot of anticipation for upcoming titles and worries of shortages;
2. There's a massive used software market in Japan, and new 3DS titles are expensive in comparison;
3. It comes with quite a bit of free software, including Four Swords;
4. There's the e-Shop, which probably accounts for a few sales;
5. There's the gigantic DS back catalogue;
6. You can count the must-own 3DS titles on your hand.
Bonus: We don't know what sales below the weekly top-sellers are. Even if they're only selling a couple thousand each, the sales of Layton, Star Fox, nintendogs, Pilotwings, Resident Evil, and Street Fighter are probably giving 10 - 20% of new owners something to play.
This is typical for most consoles especially Nintendo consoles. We're always going to experience software droughts for the first year of a system's life. Even PS2 and DS had them. 3DS is different to most new systems in Japan, in that its first Christmas will boast software launches from three of the five-or-so largest portable franchises, and lots of smaller-scale releases (like Rocket Slime) to help.
Kyoufu said:
So long as MH keeps selling gangbusters I'm happy. And GT. And Nomura games.
How can anyone be surprised at the 3DS sales? When the handheld bombed and Nintendo gave the sinking ship a huge price cut, it was pretty obvious the handheld would sell well. The titles announced this year simply cemented that, like I said maybe I'm missing a funny? Like Fernandorocker going on about how people said 3DS would fail (which it did pretty spectacularly) at $250, gaming journalists for once were actually right. :/
Good shit as Just Dance doing well, it's a damn fine game to play with friends not traditionally into games.
walking fiend
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I am almost sure it'll do that.But I am not sure how exactly MH and MK falls in chart tracking system, during the two weeks that include these two, I suspect it'll pas 1.5m combined. It'll most probably crack 4m before the year ends.BurntPork said:The Wii achieved Wesker's ultimate goal.
@above: Does anyone think that 3DS might pass 600k one week this year? Hm...
walking fiend
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I complied some data to show Holiday effect on Nintendo consoles, its from NPD, but its more or less similar everywhere else too:
jan: 422k
feb: 613k
mar: 700k
apr: 440k
may: 383k
jun: 510k
jul: 398k
aug: 342k
sep: 403k
oct: 342k
Total: 4553k
nov: 1.5m (no exclusive in top 10)
dec: 2.5m (no exclusive in top 10)
Total: 4000k
It has sold over 2000k in Japan till now, and if this holiday effect holds, we'll be looking at ~2000k in 10 weeks. This puts 3DS at an average of 200K per month from now on.
Predicting 3DS numbers was fun at a point for MC, will it fail? How much will it sell? Will it sell more than Vita, less than Vita, less than PSP? It's not any more.
I have been tracking 3DS charting on sites such as Amazon, what I have noticed is that unlike the first few months, you can't correlate its sales based on the rankings comparison like before. My guess is that 3DS is becoming an item shopped at the usual way most people shop, at retail. You also can't find 3DS games charting, because I believe people are casually buying what is available at stores, probably picking DS games as well.
Also, a very important data that Nintendo shared was gender demographic disparity. It was almost equal between female and male. Do you believe core gamers are shared equally between the two gender? Are even Nintendo core fans equally shared between the two gender? (I am not sure about the latter, but data for gameboy or GC should give us some idea)
However, the fact that a lot of people are actually unaware of 3DS being a totally new console, and very major portion doesn't even know that 3D is without glasses (28% if I remember correctly), could be a problem.
jan: 422k
feb: 613k
mar: 700k
apr: 440k
may: 383k
jun: 510k
jul: 398k
aug: 342k
sep: 403k
oct: 342k
Total: 4553k
nov: 1.5m (no exclusive in top 10)
dec: 2.5m (no exclusive in top 10)
Total: 4000k
It has sold over 2000k in Japan till now, and if this holiday effect holds, we'll be looking at ~2000k in 10 weeks. This puts 3DS at an average of 200K per month from now on.
Predicting 3DS numbers was fun at a point for MC, will it fail? How much will it sell? Will it sell more than Vita, less than Vita, less than PSP? It's not any more.
You are VERY wrong.
I have been tracking 3DS charting on sites such as Amazon, what I have noticed is that unlike the first few months, you can't correlate its sales based on the rankings comparison like before. My guess is that 3DS is becoming an item shopped at the usual way most people shop, at retail. You also can't find 3DS games charting, because I believe people are casually buying what is available at stores, probably picking DS games as well.
Also, a very important data that Nintendo shared was gender demographic disparity. It was almost equal between female and male. Do you believe core gamers are shared equally between the two gender? Are even Nintendo core fans equally shared between the two gender? (I am not sure about the latter, but data for gameboy or GC should give us some idea)
However, the fact that a lot of people are actually unaware of 3DS being a totally new console, and very major portion doesn't even know that 3D is without glasses (28% if I remember correctly), could be a problem.
xyla said:
*mind boggles*
What would be the reasoning that led you to that conclusion?
+ Added Wii Sports Resort to the bundle in the Summer
- 10K yen too high
- Even less third-party support than the terrible 2010
- Even less first-party support than in 2010 (so far)
Really curious what the reasoning would be that led to thinking 2011 in Japan would be better than 2010's horrible year for Wii.
Edit:
On the first party releases, here are the Top 5 1st-party releases in 2010 on Wii through September. Famitsu data from my database.
2010 1st-party Wii releases through Sept
WII Wii Party - 971K (through 20100926, released 7/8)
WII Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 794K (through 20100926, released 5/27)
WII Xenoblade - 120K (through 20100711, released 6/10)
WII Metroid: Other M - 62K (through 20100926, released 9/2)
WII Zangeki no Reginleiv - 38K (through 20100307, released 2/11)
Total: 1.98m
2011 1st-party Wii releases through Sept
WII Minna no Rhythm Tengoku (Everyone's Rhythm Heaven) - 487K (through 20110925, released 7/21)
WII The Last Story - 157K (through 20110911, released 1/27)
WII Goldeneye 007 - 93K (through 20110911, released 6/30)
WII Wii Play: Motion - 88K (through 20110911, released 7/7)
WII Disney Epic Mickey: Mickey Mouse to Mahou no Fude (Mickey and the Magic Brush) - 67K (through 20110911, released 8/4)
Total: 892K
walking fiend
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it's not a good game, why should it sell? I haven't followed it at all, but it'll probably do like 10kMpl90 said:
though, I should look it up to see how much it may really sell.jamesinclair
Banned
3DS YTD 2.072.670
PSP YTD 1.582.719
Wasnt there a point this year where the PSP was 1-2 weeks away from topping the 3DS in YTD sales?
PSP YTD 1.582.719
Wasnt there a point this year where the PSP was 1-2 weeks away from topping the 3DS in YTD sales?