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[Mpl90]

This week Comgnet charts.

Weekly sales chart

Index aggregation period: 23 October 2011 ~ October 17, 2011

[PS3] DEAD ISLAND - 160pt
[PSP] NARUTO-Naruto - Shippuuden Narutimate Impact - 154pt
[Wii] JUST DANCE Wii (Just Dance Wii) - 121pt
[PS3] Macross F special edition wing Sayonara ~ ~ Hybrid Pack Movie - 106pt
[PS3] Macross F ~ ~ Sayonara wing Hybrid Pack Movie - 91pt
[PS3] ACE COMBAT ASSAULT HORIZON - 70pt
[PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 - 59pt
[Wii] GO VACATION (Go Travel) - 55pt
[PS3] FIFA 12 World Class Soccer - 45pt
[PSP] ... When you have love in Guam Idol AKB1/48 Limited Edition - 25pt
[PS3] Dark Soul - 24pt
[Xbox360] DEAD ISLAND - 23pt
[PS3] Dynasty Warriors 6, Takeshi future transfer - 23pt
[PS3] Ratchet & Clank All for One - 23pt
[PS3] NBA 2K12 - 23pt
[Wii] Rhythm Heaven for Everyone - 21pt
[PS3] F1 2011 - 20pt
[Wii] Family fishing is your computer Bundle - 19pt
[PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 3rd PSP the Best - 19pt
[Wii] NES & SNES Dragon Quest I · II · III Final Fantasy Anniversary 25 - 18pt
Software Used Sales Rank

Update on Daily Preorder Charts

Updated: 24 October 2011 (Mon) 08:00
Ranking is closed at October 23, 2011

[PSP] Final Fantasy Zero formula - 576pt
[3DS] Monster 3G (Limited Edition) - 282pt
[PSP] Hatsune Miku-Project DIVA-extend - 281pt
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 - 204pt
[3DS] Monster 3G (slide pad Bundle) - 185pt
[3DS] 3D Super Mario Land - 138pt
[PS3] Armored Core 5 - 123Pt
[PS3] OG Super Robot Taisen 2 - 106pt
[Wii] Kirby of the Stars Wii - 105pt
[PS3] PS3 Sengoku BASARA3 Feast - 95pt
[PS3] Final Fantasy XIIIヴェルサス - 90Pt
[PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (Subtitled) - 83pt
[PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam VS Extreme - 81pt
[PS3] Battlefield 3 - 74pt
[PSP] Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha A's PORTABLE-THE GEARS OF DESTINY-GOD BOX Limited Edition - 63pt
[NDS] One Piece Gigant Battle the New World 2 (Limited Edition) - 53pt
[PS3] hen began de Fuca and Desuko Disgaea Disgaea 4. Append Limited Edition - 49pt
[Wii] Zelda 25 Pack anniversary Sky Sword Legend of Zelda Sword - 47pt
[PSP] To Aru Kagaku no Railgun (Limited Edition) - 47Pt
[PSP] Seventh Dragon 2020 (Limited Edition) - 46pt

Monster Hunter 3G total - 467pt
Monster Hunter 3 at the same distance from release - 404pt

...Yeah, Dead Island on PS3 is our winner for this week, if you don't count the two Macross SKUs as a single one.
But there's no 3DS software in top20.
I mean, I expected to see some rises...we'll now I'm VERY curious about what 3DS did this week, with the pink

 

[distantmantra]

[PS3] OG Super Robot Taisen 2 - 106pt

That's interesting, seeing how the game has no release date and very little advertising at the moment.

 

[Kandinsky]

Whats with the low Type-0 predictions, I think it has a fair chance of breaking one million in Japan :/

 

[frankie_baby]

Whats with the low Type-0 predictions, I think it has a fair chance of breaking one million in Japan :/

I wanna know what's with all there people thinking it'll sell a million

 

[djplaeskool]

Whats with the low Type-0 predictions, I think it has a fair chance of breaking one million in Japan :/

1MM may be a bit of a stretch.
I think it can break 700K though

 

[Erethian]

Whats with the low Type-0 predictions, I think it has a fair chance of breaking one million in Japan :/

Highest debut for a SE PSP game was Dissidia, at 503,723.

 

[frankie_baby]

Highest debut for a SE PSP game was Dissidia, at 503,723.

I'd be very surprised if type 0 even launches that high

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Whats with the low Type-0 predictions, I think it has a fair chance of breaking one million in Japan :/

Lifetime: very good chance

1st Week: literally zero chance

 

[Takao]

Lifetime: very good chance

1st Week: literally zero chance

If by life time, are you counting re-releases on another platform or something? I doubt this will break 1 million.

 

[Kazerei]

Lifetime: very good chance

1st Week: literally zero chance

The only PSP games that have broken 1 million are Monster Hunter games.

After that, Dissidia broke 900k and Crisis Core broke 800k. It's possible Type-0 can do better, but I wouldn't say there's a good chance.

 

[Erethian]

The only PSP games that have broken 1 million are Monster Hunter games.

After that, Dissidia broke 900k and Crisis Core broke 800k. It's possible Type-0 can do better, but I wouldn't say there's a good chance.

Depends if you count budget releases or not. Though checking up on it, Dissidia is the only one that would have crossed a million, and even then it reached it just barely.

 

[ULTROS!]

Prediction League (October 24 - 30)
[PSP] Final Fantasy Type-0 (Square Enix) - 520000
[WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land (Nintendo) - 110000
[PS3] The Idolmaster 2 (Bandai Namco Games) - 95000

 

[LOCK]

I think 3DS could have four straight weeks (or maybe 3/4) > 400K, which would top DS, but it won't have a 1m week.

Dec 5-11, 2011 - MH3G's release + bundle
Dec 12-18, 2011 - Probably down from previous, but not by a lot considering New Year's runup. See MHP3/PSP sales in Dec-2010. (this could be a < 400K week)
Dec 19-25, 2011 - Biggest week of year, usually
Dec 26, 2011-Jan 1, 2012 - Historically down from previous week a bit

DS probably would've had three straight > 400K weeks if it weren't for shortages the week of BT2's release.

Yes this seems like the most reasonable outcome.

I have a differenct opinion on how casual titles affect sales compared to targeted auduence games. I feel like casual title affect hardware sales over time, while hardcore games affect hardware sales upon release. So I feel like it doesn't matter how many titles your have, it all depends on their system seller status upon release. MK, Super Mario, and MH3G all have that huge system seller status while also known as leggy casual titles.

 

[cvxfreak]

What will the best selling 3rd party handheld title will be this holiday?

Type-0 or Tri G?

 

[AniHawk]

What will the best selling 3rd party handheld title will be this holiday?

Type-0 or Tri G?

mario kart

 

[Truth101]

What will the best selling 3rd party handheld title will be this holiday?

Type-0 or Tri G?

Are we just talking about the holiday period, or from release of both till end of December? Or are we talking aligning Type-0 week 1 with MH week 1 and comparing from there?

 

[cvxfreak]

Are we just talking about the holiday period, or from release of both till end of December? Or are we talking aligning Type-0 week 1 with MH week 1 and comparing from there?

I guess up to the 2nd week of January or so when the holiday ends. LTD probably would go to Tri G.

 

[duckroll]

What will the best selling 3rd party handheld title will be this holiday?

Type-0 or Tri G?

I no longer have any confidence in Type-0 even selling a million copies. I feel that while the lower limit of sales for popular PSP titles has been going up, the upper limit of sales for very popular PSP titles have been going down.

 

[Truth101]

I guess up to the 2nd week of January or so when the holiday ends. LTD probably would go to Tri G.

LTD will no doubt be MH3G, now for holiday sales I think MH3G has a chance of surpassing Type-0 sales.

 

[Brazil]

mario kart

Nintendo gone third-party confirmed.

 

[Jonnyram]

What will the best selling 3rd party handheld title will be this holiday?

Type-0 or Tri G?

How are you gonna count download sales for Type-0?
I don't think I've ever seen PSN sales publicised.

 

[charlequin]

How are you gonna count download sales for Type-0?

Add five.

 

[Takao]

Add five.

Ouch.

But I have to imagine there will be those who want to buy the game on PSN to ensure playability on Vita.

IIRC the only PSN sales data we got was from Persona 3 Portable, which did 10k on PSN in its first week compared to 90k on UMD.

 

[Dragon]

Ouch.

But I have to imagine there will be those who want to buy the game on PSN to ensure playability on Vita.

IIRC the only PSN sales data we got was from Persona 3 Portable, which did 10k on PSN in its first week compared to 90k on UMD.

I think charlequin's point is we have no way of knowing exactly how many unless that number is released so it's pointless to speculate.

 

[saichi]

Prediction League (October 24 - 30)
[PSP] Final Fantasy Type-0 (Square Enix) - 468294
[WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land (Nintendo) - 140628
[PS3] The Idolmaster 2 (Bandai Namco Games) - 64372

 

[Takao]

I think charlequin's point is we have no way of knowing exactly how many unless that number is released so it's pointless to speculate.

It would've been nice if Sony had allowed user ratings on PSP's PlayStation Store. That way we can have a baseline for minimum sales. As it stands, rating PSP software is restricted to PC, and PS3, where I doubt many are buying PSP games on.

 

[Kandinsky]

Ouch.

Its true tho, if digital sales were relevant on that platform, we would have numbers I guess.

 

[Takao]

Its true tho, if digital sales were relevant on that platform, we would have numbers I guess.

Sony doesn't allow publishers to say how much their PSN releases (be it original games, or UMD, PS, etc. dumps) sell.

 

[onken]

Predictions:

[PSP] Final Fantasy Type-0 (Square Enix) - 700k
[WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land (Nintendo) - 180k
[PS3] The Idolmaster 2 (Bandai Namco Games) - 70k

 

[BurntPork]

Can the 3DS really have a million seller at this point in its life? I honestly doubt it...

 

[Erethian]

I no longer have any confidence in Type-0 even selling a million copies. I feel that while the lower limit of sales for popular PSP titles has been going up, the upper limit of sales for very popular PSP titles have been going down.

Any specific reason for the lack of confidence? (as in specific to Type-0) Or just a general feeling about PSP software sales?

 

[Jonnyram]

Can the 3DS really have a million seller at this point in its life? I honestly doubt it...

I don't think it's gonna sell a million over the holiday period, but it may hit it in lifetime sales. There are too many factors going against it this holiday - top hitting first party titles, not enough install base, price, Vita coming to market, etc.

 

[thestopsign]

I think it's going to have three titles rather close to a million if not a little over by the end of the year. It definitely is possible right now (as shown with Smash Brothers Melee), and with over 3.5mil by the end of the year it will increase the likelihood quite a bit.

 

[Alrus]

I don't think it's gonna sell a million over the holiday period, but it may hit it in lifetime sales. There are too many factors going against it this holiday - top hitting first party titles, not enough install base, price, Vita coming to market, etc.

You're talking about MH? There's no question it will be a multi million seller after a few month... The only first party game going against it is Mario Kart and I doubt they're targeting the same audience.

I don't see why the Vita releasing would hurt the game sales at all...

 

[Jonnyram]

You're talking about MH? There's no question it will be a multi million seller after a few month... The only first party game going against it is Mario Kart and I doubt they're targeting the same audience.

Mario Land 3D and Mario Kart 7 are both gonna be big hitters which will cannibalise sales of any other games, period. They are cheaper and they are gonna be marketed the hell out of.

I don't see why the Vita releasing would hurt the game sales at all...

Because people want to buy one, so they have less time & money to spend on other games? If Vita wasn't coming out this year, I'd certainly be buying more 3DS games over the holiday period. I'm only one guy though...

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

Mario Land 3D and Mario Kart 7 are both gonna be big hitters which will cannibalise sales of any other games, period. They are cheaper and they are gonna be marketed the hell out of.

MH3G is going to be blitzed like crazy. I see it as their equal easily, both in sales and in visibility.

Because people want to buy one, so they have less time & money to spend on other games? If Vita wasn't coming out this year, I'd certainly be buying more 3DS games over the holiday period. I'm only one guy though...

Vita's going to be supply constrained, it's impact on anything is going to be limited by default. If anything, I'd think MH3G would have a more negative impact on Vita sales than the reverse though, why bother with a PS handheld without Monhun?

 

[BishopLamont]

Can the 3DS really have a million seller at this point in its life? I honestly doubt it...

It can if said game is selling the system, userbase will be meaningless after the intial sales are done.

 

[donny2112]

It can if said game is selling the system, userbase will be meaningless after the intial sales are done.

As shown with PSP, Monster Hunter can sell 1:1 with the system. I doubt Mario Kart or 3DSLand will have as strong system-selling potential in their first month as MH3G will. They may sell more systems in the long-run, but they're not the huge Day 1, "have to buy the game now" type of game that Monster Hunter has turned into, relatively speaking.

 

[Takao]

I'm thinking Inazuma Eleven Go is going to be hit hard. It launches into the lion's den of MH and Mario. At Level-5 World it also didn't appear to be incredibly popular (It reportedly had short wait times). It's also the first Inazuma game to feature the new cast, but is still the 4th mainline Inazuma game in as many years. The third entry showed decline (outside of counting The Ogre release), and I don't believe Go will change that.

 

[noobie]

Monster Hunter 3G total - 467pt
Monster Hunter 3 at the same distance from release - 404pt

So MH 3G is going to do 2.5M first week.. :O
That will certainly put all predictions to shame..

 

[Truth101]

So MH 3G is going to do 2.5M first week.. :O
That will certainly put all predictions to shame..

MH3 &#8800; MHP3

 

[cw_sasuke]

So MH 3G is going to do 2.5M first week.. :O
That will certainly put all predictions to shame..

MH3 not MHP3.

 

[cvxfreak]

How are you gonna count download sales for Type-0?
I don't think I've ever seen PSN sales publicised.

Let's make a compromise and add 75% on PSP Go's LTD to the Type-0 LTD.

 

[Kyoufu]

If I was a PSP owner looking to buy a Vita I would buy the PSN version of Type 0. I'm sure some people will be doing that.

 

[Jonnyram]

Let's make a compromise and add 75% on PSP Go's LTD to the Type-0 LTD.

This shit again?
People have been buying PSP games on PSN since way before the PSP Go came out (GT Portable being a great example), and this time the existence of the Vita will further bolster PSN sales. The PSP Go was a failure, but it is not the beginning and the end of PSN sales.

 

[walking fiend]

Comgnet is really useless, just wait until this weeks sales come out... FF XIII-2 is going to sell less than MH3 first week if it doesn't reach 404 in a week, lol...

People have been buying PSP games on PSN since way before the PSP Go came out (GT Portable being a great example),

In Japan retail is the King. Isn't it?

 

[Jonnyram]

Retail isn't king. It's run by a bunch of pimp hands who have ridiculous contracts with platform holders to make sure digital distribution is held back by a couple of decades. It's not the consumer that's holding back.

 

[Nuclear Muffin]

Whats with the low Type-0 predictions, I think it has a fair chance of breaking one million in Japan :/

Expectations are "low" because no PSP game other than the Monster Hunter series has managed to break 1 million in Japan.

There is absolutely zero chance of this happening, but it doesn't have to sell a million to be a success.

What will the best selling 3rd party handheld title will be this holiday?

Type-0 or Tri G?

Tri G of course and it won't even be close. In fact, Tri G will be the biggest selling game of the holiday, period (sorry Mario Kart 7)

 

[AniHawk]

I'm thinking Inazuma Eleven Go is going to be hit hard. It launches into the lion's den of MH and Mario. At Level-5 World it also didn't appear to be incredibly popular (It reportedly had short wait times). It's also the first Inazuma game to feature the new cast, but is still the 4th mainline Inazuma game in as many years. The third entry showed decline (outside of counting The Ogre release), and I don't believe Go will change that.

the inazuma games remind me of the mega man battle network games: rpgish things that i don't want to understand that are popular for some reason, trailed off at the end of life of the handheld they originated on, and couldn't make it on the succeeding handheld.

 

[walking fiend]

Retail isn't king. It's run by a bunch of pimp hands who have ridiculous contracts with platform holders to make sure digital distribution is held back by a couple of decades. It's not the consumer that's holding back.

Whatever the cause, Type-0, or other games on other platform whether Nintendo or Sony, won't be selling much DD at all.

Tri G of course and it won't even be close. In fact, Tri G will be the biggest selling game of the holiday, period (sorry Mario Kart 7)

Not so sure. Everyone is underestimating MK...