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DriftingSpirit
Member
That is some good hardware for PS4.
FF...well. It'll come down to how it performs outside of Japan anyway.
FF...well. It'll come down to how it performs outside of Japan anyway.
Just like FFXV.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
True, but given one was a remake, I guess I expected otherwise? Anyways...
Also what are folks thinking the PS4 will sell by the end of the year? Any chance of it breaking the PS3's best year (PS3 (2009) 1,727,041)?
1.509.869 is current sales... only about 54,293 per week... that seems feasible given it's the holidays, right?
Don't worry, they've got a patch for that!
They're going to need more than one patch! lol
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
56 to 315 is actually one hell of a bump.
Spieler Eins
Member
They really need to go with directions like FF12 from now on to keep the series' uniqueness but appeal to the western (i.e. not dead) market more. Capcom does it right with Resident Evil 7, even if maybe a tad too much. But ultimately, you can't make something with FF15's kind of a budget first and foremostly aimed at Japanese teens/JPop fans.
RamzaIsCool
The Amiga Brotherhood
Was pointing this out a month or so back, but that discussion got weird so never brought it up again. Anyway I think there are only 3 weeks left on Famitsu, so it has to do 72,390 per week. Gonna be close.
TwilightPrincess
Member
Switch plus PS4/Bone/PC, more like the ps1 games. They won't abandon PS4, which garantees good sales in the west.
Huge decline in Japan = dead?
I'm not spinning anything, the numbers are poor for a FF console game, but I cannot see how the franchise is dead. It will sell a decent amount in the west.
mrmickfran
Member
Ōkami;226166840 said:
God, could you imagine if Splatoon debuted on the Wii instead?
Wait, RE6 HD outsold 4 & 5? Why? lmao
Nintendo 3DS - Road to 22 million
LTD = 21 671 208
Units left = 328 792
Weeks left = 4 weeks
Needs = 82 198 units / week
Since Week 48 sales = 79k, and that sales should keep increasing until Christmas week, I think it's same to assume 22 million will be reached this year after all.
LTD = 21 671 208
Units left = 328 792
Weeks left = 4 weeks
Needs = 82 198 units / week
Since Week 48 sales = 79k, and that sales should keep increasing until Christmas week, I think it's same to assume 22 million will be reached this year after all.
Whoops you're right. So FF is basically still top aside from pkmn in japan?
BluePikmin11
Member
Those Appmon sales are really disappointing, it's doing worse than Monster Hunter Stories. :<
It's a shame because the anime is great.
It's a shame because the anime is great.
LifeBrandRobot
Member
Am I bad person for feeling smug that the Digimon game released on 3DS sold so much worse than the ones sold on the Vita?
When this new Digimon game was announced for 3DS only I felt kinda hurt honestly.
When this new Digimon game was announced for 3DS only I felt kinda hurt honestly.
I cry for joy whenever a Final Fantasy game sells like shit on Xbox.
Considering 30%i digital attach rate dies it not make it a respectable million
Possibly. Any data on how many 4K HDR TVs have been sold in Japan?
Lostconfused
Member
Huge discounts? That depends on how many pros they shipped.
Otherwise they are extremely different. Pro works in exactly the same way the PS4 works and offers advantages. While Vita TV is not a portable system.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
whats FE's LTD
FE won't have the opening FFXV had, which outdoes its LTD by a notable amount.
Probably 5 million.
KillerMan91
Member
I think not solely because Pro will actually sell in west and as long as it's pulling decent numbers somewhere Sony will keep it in production and so it stays also in japanese market. Vita TV bombed everywhere.
It's basically tracking at less than double of Vita TV sales right now though. A lot of those advantages are also likely less pronounced in lower budget Japanese-developed games that focus less on graphical fidelity. Japanese 4K TV adoption rate is also supposed to be lower than the west.
Sorry, I meant discontinued in Japan, the same way Vita is essentially discontinued outside of Japan. If the market continues to shrink for the pro, would Sony keep producing them for the region?
And_Gignac
Member
Square said 10m, no?
Those 5m shipped copies will take a looong time to be sold, though.
LambdaTeos
Member
Yep, square mentioned 10 m so, it's far from it..
Robert at Zeboyd Games
Banned
Can't blame the FF decline on mobile.
35.4% of Japanese PS3 owners bought FF13 1st week.
18.4% of Japanese PS4 owners bought FF15 1st week.
35.4% of Japanese PS3 owners bought FF13 1st week.
18.4% of Japanese PS4 owners bought FF15 1st week.
That is NOT the break even point. That's just what they want to sell.
Kresnik258
Member
Since no-one else seems to want to talk about anything since FF, I'll join in (for the record... yeah, that FF result is bad).
Upon seeing those Kamen Rider numbers I thought "that seems like a good result, on par with what the last multi-plat entry sold on Vita alone (which I thought was pretty good), but Famitsu has sellthrough at 20-40%... so that's a lot of copies to get through in the holidays.
Appmon though... I mean, wow. It's sold like 10% of Cyber Sleuth. Sellthrough on Famitsu is 0-20% so we've got another Gaist Crusher on our hands possibly where it'll never sell through the first shipment? Crazy. Don't know what they were thinking with this game after seeing other mixed media franchises that aren't named Youkai Watch bomb.
Also Artdink don't seem to be having any successes lately lol. Macross bombed; Neo Atlas didn't do great; A-Train has a pretty low sellthrough and I'm willing to bet Accel World vs. SAO will do quite poorly.
But hey, Super Mario Maker did well at least. And new colours bumped Vita hardware some?
PdotMichael
Banned
Wasn't FFXV once announced as Final Fantasy Versus XIII and as anti-Final Fantasy title (see the all male main cast).
Well, maybe releasing a title which is more in line of the FF series. Tetsuya Nomura is also a hack.
Well, maybe releasing a title which is more in line of the FF series. Tetsuya Nomura is also a hack.
Exactly, its about the game itself.
SE PR really did their job with "biggest ever digital sales" statement.
Not only 3DS won't be dead. It wouldn't matter to mainline DQ game even if it is. DQ7 was released on PS1 after PS2 was on the market and it didn't stop people buying the game.
Even not counting Pokemon, there is still DQ which is more popular than FF.
Define huge decline. I don't see a scenario where DQXI would sell less than 3 mil on 3DS.
for sure, especially with typical 90% digital rate.
But you didn't count the digital!
/s
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Honestly I think you can shove it all together.
The market is very harsh right now. Almost every game is down iteration over iteration to varying degrees.
The game clearly doesn't have great appeal to current PS4 owners, or to those willing to buy a PS4 to play an appealing enough game. We can see this comparing attach rates and lower hardware sales bumps.
The franchise isn't in a great state, though I don't think I'd pin that on any one game in particular. It's been seven years since the last singleplayer mainline game, and given how quickly many Japanese consumers age out of playing dedicated device games, that's a very long time. There haven't been a lot of huge hits in the meantime that aren't mainline titles either to help keep up the audience. Final Fantasy XIII's reception probably didn't help, but seeing it as a singular cause feels misguided.
The market is very harsh right now. Almost every game is down iteration over iteration to varying degrees.
The game clearly doesn't have great appeal to current PS4 owners, or to those willing to buy a PS4 to play an appealing enough game. We can see this comparing attach rates and lower hardware sales bumps.
The franchise isn't in a great state, though I don't think I'd pin that on any one game in particular. It's been seven years since the last singleplayer mainline game, and given how quickly many Japanese consumers age out of playing dedicated device games, that's a very long time. There haven't been a lot of huge hits in the meantime that aren't mainline titles either to help keep up the audience. Final Fantasy XIII's reception probably didn't help, but seeing it as a singular cause feels misguided.
Woof at FFXV, worldwide is going to be interesting.
In a vacuum, I'd agree, but not when you look at it in the context of the decline from what it could have been and this being the system's biggest (and last major) release (until DQXI in... some far off future).
This was the turning point for the PS3 and the PS3 will soon shoot past the PS4.
In a vacuum, I'd agree, but not when you look at it in the context of the decline from what it could have been and this being the system's biggest (and last major) release (until DQXI in... some far off future).
This was the turning point for the PS3 and the PS3 will soon shoot past the PS4.
Well, to be fair, that new A-Train is just an updated version, not a new entry (and there's an update for players who already have it).
Ravage_Hydra
Member
I don't know much about sells, But what was the Point of releasing the XB1 version of FF XV to such low sells?
[XB1] Final Fantasy XV # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} (¥8.800) - 3.791 / NEW
[XB1] Final Fantasy XV # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} (¥8.800) - 3.791 / NEW