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Media Create Sales: Week 48, 2016 (Nov 28 - Dec 04)

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DriftingSpirit

Member
Vena said:
Woof at FFXV, worldwide is going to be interesting.





In a vacuum, I'd agree, but not when you look at it in the context of the decline from what it could have been and this being the system's biggest (and last major) release (until DQXI in... some far off future).

This was the turning point for the PS3 and the PS3 will soon shoot past the PS4.
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Sure, but I always keep market conditions in mind with this stuff. I know it doesn't seem to be that much of a difference maker for some of you but I put quite a bit of weight behind these circumstances.
 
Square2015

Square2015

Member
Updated with the new m-c figure:

PS HW LTD when first FF released. Launches aligned:
Dotted line = PS3 vs. PS4 weekly.
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PS1 = gray line
PS2 = deep blue line
PS3 = black line
PS4 = aquamarine line

LTD when FF released and FW attach ratios:
PS1 5.0m - 40% !
PS2 5.3m - 33%
PS3 4.3m - 36%
PS4 3.7m - 19%
 
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Vena

Member
I can't see a scenario in which the PS4 is up in 2017 and not either slightly down or very down, unless there's some unforseen Splatoon-like event for 2017. 2016 was a year of playing your hand with everything big you had in the pipelines for three/ten years of build up.

DriftingSpirit said:
Sure, but I always keep market conditions in mind with this stuff. I know it doesn't seem to be that much of a difference maker for some of you but I put quite a bit of weight behind these circumstances.
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I don't disagree, but I am also looking at context of what FFXV *could have been* (and it none the less is the last and biggest release the system will see in its lifetime as an exclusive), and then wasn't. Seeing Splatoon break 100k on the holidays was a mark of success against the odds, seeing FFXV (the biggest "grace" that the PS3 had in times) just barely manage such a number is not a sign of "great numbers" unless you're only looking at scalars.

I am coming at this from a vectors perspective.
 
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Dark Cloud

Member
Lol some people trying to say DQXI will decline. Just accept FF declined and it doesn't mean you have to drag DQXI with it. DQXI is on multiple systems and it will sell great. Also, it looks like a DQ game we all want unlike FFXV.
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
DriftingSpirit said:
Sure, but I always keep market conditions in mind with this stuff. I know it doesn't seem to be that much of a difference maker for some of you but I put quite a bit of weight behind these circumstances.
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While the market situation is generally awful (I certainly post about it a lot), I do think the fact that their attach rate is half of what it used to be says some pretty negative things about both the game and the brand in the dedicated space.

I also feel it's going to be pretty hard to actually pick up the slack overseas, and even if it does, failing to grow in what has been a really strong time period for major RPGs isn't a great performance. I'm similarly critical of BioWare's relative stagnation even though they're moving 5 or so million units a game.
 
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Vena

Member
Nirolak said:
While the market situation is generally awful (I certainly post about it a lot), I do think the fact that their attach rate is half of what it used to be says some pretty negative things about both the game and the brand in the dedicated space.

I also feel it's going to be pretty hard to actually pick up the slack overseas, and even if it does, failing to grow in what has been a really strong time period for major RPGs isn't a great performance. I'm similarly critical of BioWare's relative stagnation even though they're moving 5 or so million units a game.
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Well, we know UK's standing. Though I don't think we will hear anything of the US until December NPD, right?
 
K

Kresnik258

Member
L~A said:
Well, to be fair, that new A-Train is just an updated version, not a new entry (and there's an update for players who already have it).
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I know. Neo Atlas didn't sell that much worse than the last game that released on PS1! (especially if digital is included). But it's still hardly a hit, just like A-Train (judging by sellthrough, they must've been expecting a little more).
 
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JoshuaJSlone

Member
Ravage_Hydra said:
I don't know much about sells, But what was the Point of releasing the XB1 version of FF XV to such low sells?

[XB1] Final Fantasy XV # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2016.11.29} (¥8.800) - 3.791 / NEW
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They've got the game on the system. They've got the Japanese language files. If there's no reason to release that game on the platform, there's never any reason to release anything for it in Japan.
 
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DriftingSpirit

Member
Vena said:
I can't see a scenario in which the PS4 is up in 2017 and not either slightly down or very down, unless there's some unforseen Splatoon-like event for 2017. 2016 was a year of playing your hand with everything big you had in the pipelines for three/ten years of build up.



I don't disagree, but I am also looking at context of what FFXV *could have been* (and it none the less is the last and biggest release the system will see in its lifetime as an exclusive), and then wasn't. Seeing Splatoon break 100k on the holidays was a mark of success against the odds, seeing FFXV (the biggest "grace" that the PS3 had in times) just barely manage such a number is not a sign of "great numbers" unless you're only looking at scalars.

I am coming at this from a vectors perspective.
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Nirolak said:
While the market situation is generally awful (I certainly post about it a lot), I do think the fact that their attach rate is half of what it used to be says some pretty negative things about both the game and the brand in the dedicated space.

I also feel it's going to be pretty hard to actually pick up the slack overseas, and even if it does, failing to grow in what has been a really strong time period for major RPGs isn't a great performance. I'm similarly critical of BioWare's relative stagnation even though they're moving 5 or so million units a game.
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I do think the brand of FF plays into it as well but I also think it would have been pretty difficult to obtain growth (or at least maintain being flat) regardless of how well SE worked on improving the FF brand. The potential is just stunted from the start because of the market they are releasing the game into.

Persona 5 is used as an example to counter that assertion (or even Vena's Splatoon example) but that could be considered an outlier among the piles of games that have dropped overall.

Pubs and devs do need to work on releasing the right product and assessing their brand power/potential but I also think all of that is immediately impacted by the state of the market.
 
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Ōkami

Member
PlayStation 4 Rankings

01/NEW. Final Fantasy XV (Square Enix) – {29/11/2016} (¥9.504)
02/03. Titanfall 2 (Electronic Arts) – {28/10/2016} (¥8.424)
03/05. Battlefield 1 (Electronic Arts) – {21/10/2016} (¥8.424)
04/02. SD Gundam G Generation Genesis (Bandai Namco) – {22/11/2016} (¥8.856)
05/NEW. Watch Dogs 2 (Ubisoft) – {01/12/2016} (¥8.100)
06/07. Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition (SCE) – {25/12/2014} (¥2.592)
07/NEW. Arcade Archive: Castlevania (Hamster) – {01/12/2016} (¥823)
08/11. Inside (Playdead ApS) – {24/11/2016} (¥2.200)
09/06. Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (Koei Tecmo) – {23/11/2016} (¥7.581)
10/08. Salt and Sanctuary (Ska Studios) – {18/08/2016} (¥1.780)
11/14. Unravel (Electronic Arts) – {09/02/2016} (¥1.944)
12/09. The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim – Special Edition (Bethesda) – {10/11/2016} (¥6.458)
13/00. FIFA 17 (Electronic Arts) – {27/09/2016} (¥8.424)
14/00. Need for Speed (Electronic Arts) – {13/07/2016} (¥5.184)
15/00. Arcade Archive: Metal Slug (Hamster) – {24/11/2016} (¥823)
16/16. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse 2 (Bandai Namco) – {02/11/2016} (¥6.980)
17/12. Overwatch (Square Enix) – {24/05/2016} (¥6.318)
18/18. Resident Evil 6 (Capcom) – {29/03/2016} (¥2.800)
19/00. Machinarium (50% OFF) (PLAYISM) – {24/12/2014} (¥500)
20/00. Tom Clancy’s Rainbox Six: Siege (Ubisoft) – {10/12/2015} (¥8.100)

PlayStation Vita Rankings

01/02. SD Gundam G Generation Genesis (Bandai Namco) – {22/11/2016} (¥8.208)
02/05. Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (Koei Tecmo) – {23/11/2016} (¥6.609)
03/17. Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 6 (50% OFF) (Koei Tecmo) – {12/03/2015} (¥3.240)
04/16. Machinarium (50% OFF) (PLAYISM) – {24/12/2014} (¥350)
05/02. Romancing SaGa 2 (Square Enix) – {24/03/2016} (¥2.200)
06/10. Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition (SCE) – {29/10/2014} (¥2.592)
07/07. Touhou Koubutou V (Mediascape) – {02/11/2016} (¥3.000)
08/13. Criminal Girls 2 (Nippon Ichi Software) – {18/11/2016} (¥5.000)
09/00. Hyakka Hyakurou: Sengoku Ninpoujou (50% OFF) (D3 Publisher) – {25/02/2016} (¥2.970)
10/09. Princess wa Kane no Mouja (Nippon Ichi Software) – {24/11/2016} (¥5.143)
11/NEW. Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth (Welcome Price!) (10% OFF) (Bandai Namco) – {01/12/2016} (¥2.700)
12/00. God Eater: Resurrection (52% OFF) (Bandai Namco) – {29/10/2015} (¥2.700)
13/11. Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization (Bandai Namco) – {27/10/2016} (¥6.588)
14/NEW. God Eater 2: Rage Burst (Welcome Price!) (10% OFF) (Bandai Namco) – {01/12/2016} (¥2.700)
15/08. Fate/EXTELLA: The Umbral Star (Marvelous) – {10/11/2016} (¥7.538)
16/15. Sword Art Online: Hollow Fragment (Bandai Namco) – {24/04/2014} (¥1.728)
17/NEW. Dragon Quest Builders (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix) – {01/12/2016} (¥3.218)
18/00. Persona 4: Golden (PlayStation Vita The Best) (Atlus) – {05/02/2015} (¥3.980)
19/14. Code:Realize - Shukufuku no Mirai (Idea Factory) – {24/11/2016} (¥6.264)
20/00. Terraria (Spike Chunsoft) – {06/02/2014} (¥2.057)

PlayStation 3 Rankings

01/01. Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (Koei Tecmo) – {23/11/2016} (¥7.581)
02/02. Minecraft: PlayStation 3 Edition (Mojang) – {24/06/2014} (¥2.592)
03/08. FIFA 17 (Electronic Arts) – {29/09/2016} (¥8.424)
04/06. Resident Evil 5: Gold Edition (Capcom) – {29/03/2012} (¥1.000)
05/04. Resident Evil 4 (Capcom) – {30/08/2016} (¥1.000)
06/12. Machinarium (50% OFF) (PLAYISM) – {24/12/2014} (¥500)
07/07. Goat Simulators (Double Eleven) – {07/10/2015} (¥1.000)
08/09. Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational (PlayStation Vita the Best) (SIE) – {10/10/2013} (¥2.376)
09/05. Berserk and the Band of the Hawk (Koei Tecmo) – {27/10/2016} (¥8.424)
10/10. Persona 5 (Atlus) – {15/09/2016} (¥8.800)
11/11. Bomberman Ultra (Konami) – {18/06/2009} (¥1.028)
12/NEW. Dragon Quest Builders (Ultimate Hits) (Square Enix) – {01/12/2016} (¥3.780)
13/07. Winning Eleven 2017 (Konami) – {15/09/2016} (¥7.128)
14/19. Yakuza 1 & 2 HD (PlayStation 3 The Best) (SEGA) – {11/12/2014} (¥1.944)
15/14. Castlevania: Harmony of Despair (Konami) – {29/03/2012} (¥1.234)
16/00. Rambo The Video Game (Teyon Japan) – {08/04/2016} (¥800)
17/16. Battlefield 4 (Electronic Arts) – {07/11/2013} (¥3.024)
18/20. Dragon Ball: Xenoverse (Welcome Price!) (Bandai Namco) – {28/07/2016} (¥4.104)
19/18. Blazblue: Central Fiction (Arc System Works) – {06/10/2016} (¥6.264)
20/00. Space Channel 5: Part 2 (SEGA) – {05/10/2011} (¥1.028)
 
R

RamzaIsCool

The Amiga Brotherhood
saichi said:
would love hear why PS4 will sell more in 2017.
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Ps4pro, stronger first 9 months, another price-cut and some pretty strong titles get released. Why shouldn't it?


Vena said:
I can't see a scenario in which the PS4 is up in 2017 and not either slightly down or very down, unless there's some unforseen Splatoon-like event for 2017. 2016 was a year of playing your hand with everything big you had in the pipelines for three/ten years of build up.
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You generally miss the mark when it comes to PS4 predictions (especially for this year), so the PS4 might still have a chance! :p
 
Z

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
_Ryo_ said:
So how do FFXV first days sales in Japan compare with Persona 5?
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There you go

https://sites.google.com/site/gamedatalibrary/software-by-platform/playstation-4

L~A said:
https://sites.google.com/site/gamedatalibrary/software-by-platform/playstation-4

(Famitsu)
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Why didn't anyone mention this site sooner T_T.... I have been looking for a replacement for japanltdrank for a while now...

mrmickfran said:
God, could you imagine if Splatoon debuted on the Wii instead?


Wait, RE6 HD outsold 4 & 5? Why? lmao
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It just would have meant the Wii U would have been ever more dead in Japan as well....
 
Z

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
_Ryo_ said:
Shouldn't you include the ps3 version as well?
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It's on the same site... just browse a little bit: Persona 5 PS3 - 76.534 111.740

RamzaIsCool said:
Was pointing this out a month or so back, but that discussion got weird so never brought it up again. Anyway I think there are only 3 weeks left on Famitsu, so it has to do 72,390 per week. Gonna be close.
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Also to others, no other discussion on this?


Looking at the top selling PS4 titles, aren't Final Fantasy XV and Dark Souls III some of the few titles that weren't cross-platform with PS3 or Vita?
 
Å

Ōkami

Member
So.

Best selling games of the year so far (just retail) Jan 4 to Dec 4

01. [3DS] Pokémon Sun / Moon - 2.553.150
02. [3DS] Yo-kai Watch 3: Sushi / Tempura - 1.311.680
03. [PS4] Final Fantasy XV - 716.649
04. [3DS] Dragon Quest Monsters: Joker 3 - 609.603
05. [3DS] Yo-kai Sangokushi - 545.653
06. [3DS] Kirby: Planet Robobot - 448.722
07. [PS4] Persona 5 - 353.882
08. [PS4] Dark Souls III - 321.931
09. [WIU] Splatoon - 310.181
10. [PSV] Minecraft: PlayStation Vita Edition - 289.875

Best selling PS4 games (retail + digital) all rereleases combined

01. Final Fantasy XV - 716.649
02. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - 503.748
03. Persona 5 - 402.830
04. Knack - 401.579
05. Dark Souls III - 389.257
06. Call of Duty: Black Ops III - 384.143
07. Grand Theft Auto V - 365.719
08. Dragon Quest Heroes: The World Tree's Woe and the Blight Below - 360.698
09. Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition - 353.914
10. Battlefield 4 - 312.681
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Famitsu also seperated XB systems last week too but I didn't notice it. 902 were only for XB1 S and there were 138 for standard XB1.

I don't knows if it worths the effort to seperate them too.
 
StereoVsn

StereoVsn

Member
Something seems off about the digital sales. So they only went from 690K to 716K with digital? Or is that something like digital cards for the game sold in stores but doesn't cover PSN downloads?
 
T

The Last One

Member
StereoVsn said:
Something seems off about the digital sales. So they only went from 690K to 716K with digital? Or is that something like digital cards for the game sold in stores but doesn't cover PSN downloads?
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No, 716K is only physical. 690K is from Media Create and 716k is from Famitsu.
 
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Nirolak

Mrgrgr
StereoVsn said:
Something seems off about the digital sales. So they only went from 690K to 716K with digital? Or is that something like digital cards for the game sold in stores but doesn't cover PSN downloads?
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The Japanese digital market is a smaller than Western ones, though you're seeing Famitsu vs. Media Create physical numbers.
 
C

Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
Takao said:
Wow man, please share your time machine.
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It wasn't so difficult, things are just very predictable with the usual posters.

Now that PS3 is out of picture, Sony tries desperately to kill Vita and doesn't look PS4 can carry alone Sony's market in Japan expect more of the same.

At least Switch will make things more interesting next year.
 
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Psycho_Mantis

Banned
Nirolak said:
The Japanese digital market is a smaller than Western ones, though you're seeing Famitsu vs. Media Create physical numbers.
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Looking at some PS4 titles and its not bad. P5 had around 13% of its LTD retail sales (not sure if its digital estimates are LTD). I'd say max 100k digital for FFXV.
 
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Chris1964

Sales-Age Genius
I'm taking suggestions for the 3 letters that will be used for Switch. I can't see what's more suitable. SWI, SWH, SCH, other? I tend to the first.
 
Bruno MB

Bruno MB

Member
Prediction League Final Fantasy XV Results

Congratulations to:

- GAF_AVG 1st Course, for winning by units!
- DKHF, for winning by mean error %!


Code: 
    BY UNITS                                             BY MEAN ERROR %

    01          1st Course         33.242                01             DKHF            5,29%
    02            noobie           35.742                02            noobie           7,55%
    03             Eolz            40.242                03          1st Course         8,28%
    04             DKHF            58.281                04            Kanann           9,80%
    05        DarkLordMalik        77.868                05        RamzalsCool         10,42%
    06            saichi           78.956                06       DarkLordMalik        11,44%
    07        Graphics Horse       88.799                07           saichi           11,91%
    08          Chris1964          99.944                08          Bruno MB          16,12%
    09            Kanann          117.758                09              Eolz          16,67%
    10           Bruno MB         119.944                10          Chris1964         16,88%
    11           duckroll         121.552                11             Las7           18,36%
    12         RamzalsCool        135.944                12        Graphics Horse      20,13%
    13            Aters           143.242                13            Aters           21,34%
    14           djtiesto         167.242                14           duckroll         24,31%
    15             Las7           177.688                15           djtiesto         26,24%
    16           random25         263.242                16           random25         35,10%

Code: 
                                                Famitsu  Chris1964   saichi    noobie  RamzalsCooGraphics H  Aters      Las7    random25 DarkLordMa  Kanann     DKHF   1st Course Bruno MB  djtiesto  duckroll    Eolz
                [PS4] Hardware                  116.593    89.012    98.765   102.500   114.000    77.777    85.000    99.999    70.000   133.333   121.000   120.000   100.000    95.000    76.000    72.515    78.000
            [PS4] Final Fantasy XV              716.649   789.012   777.777   695.000   850.000   666.666   605.000   555.555   500.000   777.777   830.000   771.523   700.000   815.000   590.000   794.123   715.000

               TOTAL ABS. DIFF.                            99.944    78.956    35.742   135.944    88.799   143.242   177.688   263.242    77.868   117.758    58.281    33.242   119.944   167.242   121.552    40.242
              MEAN ERROR %                                 16,88%    11,91%    7,55%     10,42%    20,13%    21,34%    18,36%    35,10%    11,44%    9,80%     5,29%     8,28%     16,12%    26,24%    24,31%    16,67%

Code: 
                    STATISTICS                     Famitsu   GAF_AVG     OVER     UNDER      MIN       MAX              CLOSEST BY
                  [PS4] Hardware                   116.593    95.806     19%       81%      70.000   133.333       114.000 RamzalsCool
             [PS4] Final Fantasy XV                716.649   714.527     50%       50%     500.000   850.000           715.000 Eolz

Chris1964 said:
I'm taking suggestions for the 3 letters that will be used for Switch. I can't see what's more suitable. SWI, SWH, SCH, other? I tend to the first.
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NSW

Edit: On second thought I don't like it too much. For the Pal thread I will use the same acronym you chose :p
 
F

Fisico

Member
RamzaIsCool said:
PM! :)
Maybe you are right. Will be more clear a couple of months into 2017.
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Well they had price drop with a lower cost model, a higher cost more powerful model and VR for enthusiasts and looking at games here are the 10 biggest IP from PS3 era

Final Fantasy
Resident Evil
Metal Gear Solid
Grand Theft Auto V
One Piece: Pirate Warriors
Gran Turismo
Hot Shots Golf
Tales of
Yakuza
Call of Duty
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- 7 of them have already been released on PS4 most as multiplatform though, but as the latest PS3/PS4 multiplat titles have shown the transition is basically over, we should not see any worthwhile PS3/PS4 games anymore in 2017
- From the 3 left 1 is basically dead (Minna no golf), 1 will have its latest entry released in one month and will severely underperform compared to its predecessor (Resident Evil) and the latter will be released sometimes next year and will be nowhere near its highest point on PS3 (Gran Turismo)

And let's not mention that all the big IP from western publishers that the PS3 didn't have this early in its life cycle (
and Persona 5 lol
)

Asides from an hypothetical Final Fantasy XVI the biggest exclusive title we'll see on PS4 in the future might very well be GTA VI, that's just the state of the market for solo focused games on home consoles today in Japan, and multiplayer home console games are something the Playstation environment has failed to produce for quite some time now.

PS4 is just definitively on track to perform similarly as PS3 with slightly lower numbers on a yearly basis.
 
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Moor-Angol

Banned
week 1
01./00. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 2.096.050 / NEW <80-100%>
01./00. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 1.905.107 / NEW <80-100%>
weekly difference : -190,943
Total difference : -190,943


week 2
01./01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 591.025 / 2.687.075 <80-100%> (-72%)
01./01. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 422.346 / 2.327.453 <80-100%> (-78%)
weekly difference : -168,679
total difference : -359,622


week 3
01./01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 265.984 / 2.953.059 <80-100%> (-55%)
02./01. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 225.697 / 2.553.150 <80-100%> (-47%)
weekly difference : -40,287
total difference : -399,909



-400k in just 3 weeks, wow, at this rate the difference would be around 10%

I wonder if at least nintendo is paying attention to those numbers...
 
M

Maxinas

Member
Moor-Angol said:
week 1
01./00. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 2.096.050 / NEW <80-100%>
01./00. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 1.905.107 / NEW <80-100%>
weekly difference : -190,943
Total difference : -190,943


week 2
01./01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 591.025 / 2.687.075 <80-100%> (-72%)
01./01. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 422.346 / 2.327.453 <80-100%> (-78%)
weekly difference : -168,679
total difference : -359,622


week 3
01./01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 265.984 / 2.953.059 <80-100%> (-55%)
02./01. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 225.697 / 2.553.150 <80-100%> (-47%)
weekly difference : -40,287
total difference : -399,909



-400k in just 3 weeks, wow, at this rate the difference would be around 10%

I wonder if at least nintendo is paying attention to those numbers...
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The decline in Japan is negated by the increased worldwide sales over x/y, so i doubt they are worried.
 
S

Sandfox

Member
Moor-Angol said:
week 1
01./00. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 2.096.050 / NEW <80-100%>
01./00. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 1.905.107 / NEW <80-100%>
weekly difference : -190,943
Total difference : -190,943


week 2
01./01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 591.025 / 2.687.075 <80-100%> (-72%)
01./01. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 422.346 / 2.327.453 <80-100%> (-78%)
weekly difference : -168,679
total difference : -359,622


week 3
01./01. [3DS] Pokemon X / Y # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2013.10.12} (¥4.800) - 265.984 / 2.953.059 <80-100%> (-55%)
02./01. [3DS] Pokemon Sun / Moon # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2016.11.18} (¥4.980) - 225.697 / 2.553.150 <80-100%> (-47%)
weekly difference : -40,287
total difference : -399,909



-400k in just 3 weeks, wow, at this rate the difference would be around 10%

I wonder if at least nintendo is paying attention to those numbers...
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From what I remember XY didn't have any legs so that will probably be a big factor in closing the gap to an extent.

I don't really see any lessons to be learned from these numbers for Nintendo and Gamefreak given how Sun and Moon seem to be performing WW.
 
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MakotoYuki

Member
&#332;kami;226188963 said:
So.
Best selling PS4 games (retail + digital) all rereleases combined

01. Final Fantasy XV - 716.649
02. Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain - 503.748
03. Persona 5 - 402.830
04. Knack - 401.579
05. Dark Souls III - 389.257
06. Call of Duty: Black Ops III - 384.143
07. Grand Theft Auto V - 365.719
08. Dragon Quest Heroes: The World Tree's Woe and the Blight Below - 360.698
09. Minecraft: PlayStation 4 Edition - 353.914
10. Battlefield 4 - 312.681
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Bloodborne isn't in the list?
That's sad.
 
D

Dash Kappei

Not actually that important
ZSaberLink said:
Bloodborne was bundled for free after a while, so that probably reduced sales some.
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That list actually includes bundled copies


Square2015 said:
Updated with the new m-c figure:

PS HW LTD when first FF released. Launches aligned:
Dotted line = PS3 vs. PS4 weekly.
tFtsLA2.png

PS1 = gray line
PS2 = deep blue line
PS3 = black line
PS4 = aquamarine line

LTD when FF released and FW attach ratios:
PS1 5.0m - 40% !
PS2 5.3m - 33%
PS3 4.3m - 36%
PS4 3.7m - 19%
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Could you rehost? Graph isn't showing up on imgur
 
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Moor-Angol

Banned
Maxinas said:
The decline in Japan is negated by the increased worldwide sales over x/y, so i doubt they are worried.
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you can say the same things for FF, but it has been just a "FF is dead" in the previous pages
so west counts for Pokemon and west doesn't count for FF ?


SM is declining from XY which was declining from BW

XY was the first main entry in the series which was not able to reach the 5mln milestone, and SM is already 400k below those numbers


this is the fact.
 
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theprodigy

Member
Moor-Angol said:
you can say the same things for FF, but it has been just a "FF is dead" in the previous pages
so west counts for Pokemon and west doesn't count for FF ?


SM is declining from XY which was declining from BW

XY was the first main entry in the series which was not able to reach the 5mln milestone, and SM is already 400k below those numbers


this is the fact.
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Pokemon is slightly down in Japan, way up elsewhere
FF is way down in Japan, holding elsewhere at best

but I'm sure you know this and you're just trolling yet again
 
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