BluePikmin11
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Is the SaGa franchise good?
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Is the SaGa franchise good?
I.... like it?
No thoughts of the Cold Steel 3 or Studio zero announcements?
Cold steel 3 being PS4 exclusive had already been thrown out there but that's going to be difficult for them, it will be interesting to see how they work with that.
As to Studio Zero I'm surprised they are ready to gear up so soon but I guess that's the benefit of being part of Sega.
They should release Saga in the West. It has the potential to beat Uncharted 4's meta going by Duckroll's impressions.
Are you telling we'll see a >100k LTD for SaGa?
It will do really bad compared to Shin Uchi. Sukiyaki should be around 250k FW.
There are two important things, though. One is that it seems the game is sold-out at some stores, and even at online retailers as Rakuten or Amazon, they don't have stock. So, the other one (maybe, positive) is that the game sold better than Level-5 (or retailers) expected.
Quoting myself, new shipments for Sukiyaki are planned for December 25th and 29th
Quoting myself, new shipments for Sukiyaki are planned for December 25th and 29th, so second week drop will be huge, since sales exceeded retailer's expectations. It's sold-out at almost every store.
To follow up on the Atlus portion of this, the point of unveiling the rough concept for the game is to hire new staff for the division, so this is probably more of a PS4/PS5 cross-gen title than anything we'll be discussing soon.
SaGa is a very intriguing mess of a series. These are games that seem to encourage free and open gameplay, but they're not designed that way. They provide a lot of room to hang yourself. If you try to go online to see how other (Japanese) players approach the games, you'll find a lot of veteran players who try to avoid all combat outside of boss fights. They're crazy and they can be unforgiving. You might find that every encounter can kill a character, inching them forward towards perma death. And you might struggle to find quest lines you can actually survive.
But sometimes crazy is fun.
In regards to Sen 3's exclusivity, I just got done reading through the questions asked at Falcom's investor meeting Q&A, and it seems the move was made due to the foreign market and their increased focus on that. They even note it as a key area for profit next year.
Aren't there sales missing for the 2DS or something?Are we sue 3ds will reach the 2mil mark YtD?
Aren't there sales missing for the 2DS or something?
Going to be interesting to see how Saga fares there.^^ And whether Saga will be able to have some legs to support the title there.
I had always wanted to see whether a traditional genre with no legs(Jrpg) outside of Nintendo properties can had long long legs if it had great quality and word of mouth there.^^ This is going to be a nice thing too follow.^^
Uhm
Probabile I have read wrongly the OP numbers?
New shipments just in time to be too late.
It will do really bad compared to Shin Uchi. Sukiyaki should be around 250k FW.
There are two important things, though. One is that it seems the game is sold-out at some stores, and even at online retailers as Rakuten or Amazon, they don't have stock. So, the other one (maybe, positive) is that the game sold better than Level-5 (or retailers) expected.
Are we sue 3ds will reach the 2mil mark YtD?
Nintendo 3DS - Road to 22 million units
LTD = 21 780 183
Units left = 219 817
Weeks left = 3 weeks
Needs = 73 272 units / week.
So yeah, I think there's no more doubt now, 22 million in 2016 confirmed. If you add the 100k from the Pokémon 2DS bundles, that will be next week, most likely.
New shipments just in time to be too late.
Are we sue 3ds will reach the 2mil mark YtD?
I don't really think this accurately describes the majority of SaGa games, just a few of them. There are many SaGa games where you don't really have to be worried about permdeath or getting stuck. The only question is where your progression goes.
The main appeal of SaGa is that there is always a sense of discovery. The obtuse nature of the systems in how they're not clearly explained makes it interesting for people to play to see how things unfold. To me, playing a SaGa is the opposite of playing a traditionally designed JRPG or even most computer RPGs. Usually there is a very clear structure, so playing through a RPG feels like you're checking off items on a list and making sure you aren't missing anything. With SaGa the uncertainty liberates me to just wing it and accept losses, just to see where it all ends up. The only other JRPGs which make me feel like that other than FF2 and The Last Remnant, would be tri-Ace games like the first Valkyrie Profile, and the more recent Resonance of Fate. It's probably no coincidence that there is a clear inspiration in all these games from tabletop RPGs.
Etrian Odyssey? 32k FW -> 94k LTD
Infinite Space? 38k FW -> 71k LTD (took way too long to restock)
(Big winner coming up)
Demon's Souls? 39k FW -> 170k LTD
(Bonus)
Trails in the Sky FC PSP? 14k FW -> 114k LTD
Sold out again, restocking on the 25th.
Ducky.^^ Can you help me with 7th Dragon DS,PSP and 3DS number too here pliz.T_T I am wanted to see how the game does there.^^
It means what it sounds, which is that the game will get good reviews in the West since it is a good RPG, no?What is that supposed to mean?!
Not really worthwhile in this discussion. They're not very leggy. 79k->147k, 122k->161k, etc.
Why did MH Stories fail again?
Something about the marketing?
Would a game be concidered as a new IP if it uses property/characters that are well known? Not that it really matters that much, but just wondering.Why not use the DS game for comparison ? Miitopia isnt a Friend Collection game but a new IP, that uses Miis and elements from other titles. Friend Collection on 3DS was the successor to an established Million seller - Miitopia isnt.
The amazon jp reviews are quite high compared to what you usually see.Are you telling we'll see a >100k LTD for SaGa?
The series sells pretty well in Japan.I don't really get why a relatively small studio would make a japanese game a PS4 exclusive in 2017. Unless they tend to sell more in the west ? I don't know these games.
While your optimism is commendable... The sales ration from Vita to PS3/PS4 so far has been between 6:5 at best and 5:1 at worst. There is no way a PS4-only release will see a sales drop-off of only 15-20% from the previous combined sales, especially in the current circumstances of the Japanese home console market which is at its worst in several decades. Imo Falcom is lucky if cutting off the portable audience results in any less than 50% sales drop-off in the domestic market.I don't expect CS3 to sell as well as the average sales for the combined PS3/Vita SKU does for CS1/2, but I for one, expect the sales drop-off from the combined sales to only be around 15-20% leveraging on the assumption that the Kiseki audience are quite hardcore and is willing to invest in a PS4 to play the next installment, and that will be made up by sales in the rest of Asia like Taiwan/Korea that by then, will have a healthy base of PS4 install base.