slaughterking
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http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?t...d1=&sltd2=&gameid=&orderby=&res1=&res2=&opt=1
Look for Patapon, Locoroco, MinNoGolf and Ape Escape. That should be about it.
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Media Create Sales: Week 51, 2011 (Dec 19 - Dec 25)
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http://garaph.info/gamesearch.php?t...d1=&sltd2=&gameid=&orderby=&res1=&res2=&opt=1
Look for Patapon, Locoroco, MinNoGolf and Ape Escape. That should be about it.
Mario Kart and Monster Hunter are titles that have a big social impact. Not having these games while hundreds of thousands play it together feels like not being invited to a party. This is why they are phenomenon games. Mario is less social, but it's a phenomenon by itself (and I certainly don't give enough credit to its streetpass features). Swapnote is another social hit. The 3D picture contest presented by Iwata is another social attraction.
Mii support brings familiarity. Iwata presents upcoming games himself in a gym, he poses with a Love Plus model in a sofa. Familiarity.
Nintendo is very smart right now with the social aspect of the 3DS. Social is viral. Viral is success.
Mii support brings familiarity. Iwata presents upcoming games himself in a gym, he poses with a Love Plus model in a sofa. Familiarity.
Nintendo is very smart right now with the social aspect of the 3DS. Social is viral. Viral is success.
Does it not use the upper 3DS screen?
H_Prestige
Banned
Bingo. Price is such a small component of Vita's problems. Neither is "too good graphics" a problem. The system is not really out of reach for most people. Its problem is that it doesn't have Mario, Pokemon, and MH. Just some C tier japanese games, ports of old ps2 greats, and some watered down western games no one gives two shits about. That's why it isn't going to sell past the first week.
When is that out by the way? How much did 999 did in Japan?
If it was a low number, sales should be pretty evenly split. The higher the total sales, the bigger the split should be. Depends on Vita's momentum when it launches as well.
Smiles and Cries
Member
even if they used the same assets the visuals would still be no contest due to the screen tech on the Vita
userbase is the only thing to slow sales
Smiles and Cries
Member
Feb 16
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Gotta get to 500k somehow (lol). I look forward to the iOS/ROID/PS3/Wii U announcements.
cj_iwakura
Member
Went and dug up the comparisons.
3DS
PSV
3DS
PSV
Mother of god.....
bigtroyjon
Member
I'm getting a Kevin Nealon in Happy Gilmore vibe from this post.
AdventureRacing
Member
It's going to be a long year for the vita. It doesn't really have any big or even moderately big games coming out in the near future and it's a long time till the next holiday season.
This isn't arguable at all unless you are talking about the quality of games which is completely irrelevant to this thread (and impossible to judge so of course it's arguable). In terms of sales and the ability to move consoles nintendos franchises dwarf sonys.
In the end that's all that matters. Nintendo has an incredibly strong stable of IP's which can move a ton of HW and SW and lots of them have done this on handhelds as well (in fact quite a few are a lot stronger on handhelds). Sony doesn't have this luxury.
It also doesn't help that it looks like sonys best developers are concentrating on home consoles and not handhelds.
This isn't arguable at all unless you are talking about the quality of games which is completely irrelevant to this thread (and impossible to judge so of course it's arguable). In terms of sales and the ability to move consoles nintendos franchises dwarf sonys.
In the end that's all that matters. Nintendo has an incredibly strong stable of IP's which can move a ton of HW and SW and lots of them have done this on handhelds as well (in fact quite a few are a lot stronger on handhelds). Sony doesn't have this luxury.
It also doesn't help that it looks like sonys best developers are concentrating on home consoles and not handhelds.
No PSV/3DS yet, but we have some Vita multi-releases:
[PSV] Lord of Apocalypse (Square Enix) {2011-12-17} - 29,111 / 29,111
[PSP] Lord of Apocalypse (Square Enix) {2011-12-17} - 17,910 / 17,910
[PS3] Shin Kamaitachi no Yoru: 11-nin-me no Suspect (Chunsoft) {2011-12-17} - 35,420 / 35,420
[PSV] Shin Kamaitachi no Yoru: 11-nin-me no Suspect (Chunsoft) {2011-12-17} - 18,761 / 18,761
[PS3] BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend (Arc System Works) {2011-12-17} - 31,979 / 31,979
[PSV] BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend (Arc System Works) {2011-12-17} - < 17,000
That brings Mario 3D Land over the last known famitsu numbers for both Galaxy games, and it just needs a few more weeks to pass SM64DS. Time to update the Mario chart!
Super Mario 64 DS 1,217,587
Super Mario Galaxy 1,017,287
Super Mario Galaxy 2 1,003,763
Colonel Mustard
Banned
I don't know if he's joking or not. Resolution aside there's really no difference graphically.
http://andriasang.com/comz5h/good_people_die_3ds_vita/
Smiles and Cries
Member
frankie_baby
Member
3ds call of duty will probably sell more
slaughterking
Member
Neither game will be a systemseller.
frankie_baby
Member
I agree
I want to say 999 ended around 70k in Japan. I want to say that but I'm not entirely sure.
Did Hino really say 500k? Dude's messed.
Yeah, resolutions aside, panels aside, they are both widescreen. I think they are using Capcom's (RE4 HD) way of comparing screenshots. I don't even know why the 3DS screenshots are bigger than Vita's and blurrier. I'm sure the Vita version will have better IQ, but these shots makes no sense.
Oh I'd say a February release won't give the Vita any chance, it's not gonna be doing well by that date. People who're interested in visual novels aren't the day 1 adopters. So with an alternative available, it's not gonna do very good.
That comparison pic is a joke though, just resolution issues really.
I'd say.
Well taking by the reception here in gaf, people got really invested in it, so I don't think it'll do much lower. Something like a 2:5 ratio seems reasonable.
You don't think this is true?
That comparison pic is a joke though, just resolution issues really.
I'd say.
Well taking by the reception here in gaf, people got really invested in it, so I don't think it'll do much lower. Something like a 2:5 ratio seems reasonable.
You don't think this is true?
Sony has a damn fine first party team, which will have significant payoff's in the future especially when compared to Microsoft who has virtually none.
But the strongest? I would still give that title to Nintendo. In terms of teams they are both similar. In terms of IPs Nintendo completely dwarfs everyone. It's extremely difficult to fight against Mario/Pokemon/Zelda/DK/Kirby/AC etc etc. All very well established and all are multi-million selling regardless of region. Some better than others but nonetheless.
Sony is very much getting there though. The issue they have is their IP bank right now, in terms of relevance, is very much Western. That's not bad, but you don't win by exclusion. Prehaps the Vita will force them to re-allign their Japanese development in-house.
But the strongest? I would still give that title to Nintendo. In terms of teams they are both similar. In terms of IPs Nintendo completely dwarfs everyone. It's extremely difficult to fight against Mario/Pokemon/Zelda/DK/Kirby/AC etc etc. All very well established and all are multi-million selling regardless of region. Some better than others but nonetheless.
Sony is very much getting there though. The issue they have is their IP bank right now, in terms of relevance, is very much Western. That's not bad, but you don't win by exclusion. Prehaps the Vita will force them to re-allign their Japanese development in-house.
People end up playing these because everyone do, that's my point.
thanks. I totally forgot that they published that many Bleach games.
cj_iwakura
Member
It hit four printings in the US according to Aksys, which is damn impressive for a visual novel.
Let the record show I'm pissed off at Japan for letting WKC: Origins outsell Jeanne D'arc (the numbers say otherwise right now, but when we get MediaCreate Top 1000 for 2011 I guarantee it).
Boney said Japan...
Boney said Japan...
Yet no publisher wants to pick this up sigh
edit: if it did 40k on the charts, it'll be a pretty even split I'd assume
Smiles and Cries
Member
those shots are laughable. Vita wins in IQ but serious the way the 3DS shots are setup is a blatant troll
Father_Brain
Banned
Man, I am really looking forward to the NPD figures for whatever month CoD Vita ships.
I'd like to think that the Char Red 3DS had something to do with it. Too bad the system doesn't run 3x as fast.
Also:
10./00. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers 2012 Xtreme (Level 5) {2011-12-22} - 85,117 / NEW
WTF Japan. Speaking of IE, is it possible to see the split between Shine and Dark? I want to see who chose Endou's canon (and correct) wife.
AdventureRacing
Member
If anything i would say MSs first party games this gen have had nearly as much impact as sonys. When is this payoff supposed to happen btw? Their only real big franchise GT is in a decline and is nowhere near as strong as it once was. Where is the big seller for sony going to come from?
The quality of the games are irrelevant and i have no idea why people keep bringing that up (it's completely subjective and adds nothing to the discussion). Nintendo has the best selling franchises and judging by their continued sales i'd say people must consider them to be very good.
I don't think sony is getting there at all. Personally i don't think they're doing that much better than MS in the west. They certainly aren't making any grounds on nintendos first party which in the last generation became stronger than ever.
Sony need a massive system selling first party IP. The only one they have that fits that bill at all is GT which is declining and takes forever to actually release (and on top of that it is barely relevant on handhelds).
Why would anyone choose to play a handheld Call of Duty game over a console one? Playing FPS games on handhelds are clunky as hell and the dudebros ain't gonna leave their huge ass LED/Plasma TVs to play on a tiny screen with horrible sound. Not to mention that the Vita version will probably be gimped compared to the console versions.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I would have expected it to do better than Zelda
when was the last time Japan loved a console Zelda?
Exactly, it's not Xbox Vita.
cj_iwakura
Member
I'd bet cash money Aksys has exclusive on 999-2.
And the 3DS performed better in the spring against PSP and MonHun. So I don't really get the point you're trying to make.
Call of Duty in your pocket?
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Not Sony. Obviously.
In theory the Vita lineup is stronger than the 3DS launch lineup but quite frankly it just doesn't matter at all. The Vita's lineup is a joke compared to the 3DS right now. Hence the sales being what they are.
Dengeki had first week sales of Shine at 79,262 copies, and Dark at 61,757 copies.
Two franchises I'm indifferent about enter a room...
specialguy
Banned
On another subjectm looks like PS3 will be down just so slightly YoY for 2011.
Went back and looked, it was basically ~1.6m 2009, ~1.5m 2010, ~1.5m 2011
I dont know if that's good, bad, or indifferent for PS3. I guess the latter.
Went back and looked, it was basically ~1.6m 2009, ~1.5m 2010, ~1.5m 2011
I dont know if that's good, bad, or indifferent for PS3. I guess the latter.
dacuk
Member
Shidoshi, just buy a 3DS, man.
frankie_baby
Member
Speculation time - last week's number 48 title (xbox ff13 2) sold 10k seeing as sales are generally up this week and vita has dropped so much could we possibly see no vita games at all in the top 50
The main events Sony attends are:
CES: Will almost assuredly not have Vita games.
GDC: They usually show up at this, though recently it's more things like Move games or things already announced. It's possible Vita games would be here, but they would very likely be first/second party.
PlayStation Showcase: This usually consists of first party titles for consoles and happens sometime in April-May. Basically it is where they show their published games to the press prior to E3, so I wouldn't really expect third party games there.
E3: This is really a console show. Odds are high that they won't have many Vita games, and that the ones they do are largely full looks at what they showed at the PlayStation Showcase. Anything else, if it shows up, will likely be a third party Western game like Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed.
TGS: This is basically the only event they hold where they focus on handheld titles.
So, I would say the most likely place to see more Japanese Vita announcements would be in Famitsu like how Gundam just got announced.