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[AdventureRacing]

I am not really sure.

It is currently performing near similar to what PSP did back then, and PSP never dropped below 10k. Also, PSV has launched against PSP and 3DS, while PSP only had to face DS.

However, we yet have to see if PSP audience will move to PSV.

Vita looks like it will start to fall behind what the PSP did during its launch period, unless there's a sudden upswing in sales. They'll probably be about even after next week, then Vita will start to track lower.

Part of the reason Vita is tracking ahead at the moment is because it had a larger initial shipment than what the PSP got.

Did the PSP launch right in the middle of the holiday season? Because i'm sure that would have some impact.

With no real big games in the near future and so long until the next holiday season i feel like there could be a big lull for the vita in the near future.

I think it was because Nintendodidn't want just the GBA against the PSP. They were so unsure about the DS though, that they allowed themselves room to fall back to the GBA if it bombed. It didn't.

That's pretty interesting really. Also your tag is awesome.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

That's pretty interesting really. Also your tag is awesome.

Yeah Nintendo was insisting that the DS was not a true followup to the GBA (despite backwards compatibility) but rather a new "third pillar" of their business.

They stopped saying that when the DS took off.

I also recall an interview somewhere which revealed that Nintendo had what was basically a portable Gamecube ready to succeed the GBA in case the DS went the way of the Virtual Boy.

 

[cvxfreak]

and again - we'll see how things pan out. All i see is undue panic over 3 weeks sales - it's bullshit.

My argument wasn't a matter of "it will turn out like this," it was an argument of "if things went this way, then this might happen."

Crucial difference.

 

[AdventureRacing]

Yeah Nintendo was insisting that the DS was not a true followup to the GBA (despite backwards compatibility) but rather a new "third pillar" of their business.

They stopped saying that when the DS took off.

I wonder if that was ever a possibility and how they could have feasibly went back to the GBA after the DS.

 

[Erethian]

Did the PSP launch right in the middle of the holiday season? Because i'm sure that would have some impact.

With no real big games in the near future and so long until the next holiday season i feel like there could be a big lull for the vita in the near future.

PSP launched a week earlier than Vita, and on a Sunday instead of a Saturday. So it caught a bit more of the holiday period.

And Vita is undoubtedly going to go through a software drought this year, every system does in those months after launch. The issue is usually how long it lasts. Which is where launching 10 months after the 3DS hurts Sony, because it's easier to see through a software drought when your competitor is going through one as well.

 

[LOCK]

Wrapping up, December predictions:
Congratulations to Road for winning the ranking by units and by points/percentages.

Results	By Units			By Points	
1	 723334	Road			108,04%	Road
[B]2	 795558	LOCK			112,75%	LOCK[/B]
3	 821124	lunchwithyuzo		123,11%	lunchwithyuzo
4	 938216	Mpl90			124,84%	frankie_baby
5	 955218	starship		125,44%	Kurosaki Ichigo
6	 966524	frankie_baby		128,95%	Yeshua
7	 983470	Yeshua			135,80%	Mpl90
8	 984464	Kurosaki Ichigo		138,96%	zomgbbqftw
9	 994464	Orgen			140,69%	Orgen
10	1003470	thestopsign		144,97%	starship
11	1114804	miladesn		157,83%	miladesn
12	1174804	zomgbbqftw		157,94%	thestopsign
13	1195006	cw_sasuke		158,66%	Truth101
14	1205241	Chris1964		172,08%	Chris1964
15	1207748	Truth101		173,40%	cw_sasuke
16	1439006	Kenka			176,80%	Kenka
17	1496212	donny2112		200,54%	BurntPork
18	1550218	BurntPork		209,24%	FINALFANTASYDOG
19	1644340	FINALFANTASYDOG		218,18%	donny2112
20	1682006	Celine			227,74%	Celine
21	1949665	duckroll		249,68%	duckroll
22	2024804	ULTROS!			267,70%	M_Night
23	2095006	M_Night			277,75%	ULTROS!
24	2204464	Spiegel			303,14%	Spiegel
**	1340446	*saichi			169,02%	*saichi
* missed deadline

December	Sales	Mpl90	Kenka	Spieg	lunch	M_Nig	Celin	ULTRO	donny	stars	LOCK	Truth	Burnt	Orgen	Yeshu	Chris	Road	thest	Kuro	cw_sa	duckr	frank	milad	zomgb	FINAL	*saic
3DS Hardware	1604126	1675344	1211000	1500000	1456789	1300000	1555000	1000000	1700000	1700000	1700000	1900000	1700000	1565000	1500000	1678901	1666666	1600000	1452000	1550000	2005156	1700000	1537000	1400000	1211000	1999999
3DS Mario Land	519232	405943	711000	500000	456789	600000	777000	450000	500000	440000	400000	600000	300000	490000	450000	456789	444444	430000	422000	600000	505259	390000	473000	450000	534000	399999
3DS MarioKart7	1160170	1290687	1211000	2000000	1234567	1800000	1777000	1100000	1350000	1200000	1100000	1300000	1700000	1375000	1500000	1456789	1111111	1200000	1232000	1400000	954965	800000	1100000	900000	999000	1234567
3DS MH Tri G	985497	1230340	1211000	900000	987654	1100000	1111000	750000	900000	1200000	1100000	900000	1200000	930000	1000000	987654	999999	1200000	872000	1000000	1255365	950000	830000	950000	654000	1102239
PS3 FFXIII-2	704235	851340	1211000	1300000	1012345	1300000	1111000	1200000	1500000	950000	1000000	1100000	1000000	1180000	1000000	1234567	1111111	1100000	1237000	1300000	1453555	930000	1347000	1300000	1111000	1185294
PSV Hardware	439986	671230	511000	1000000	666666	800000	666000	1000000	750000	720000	550000	650000	625000	620000	600000	678901	555555	700000	457000	650000	750255	320000	583000	450000	777000	593128
									
Difference	0	938216	1439006	2204464	821124	2095006	1682006	2024804	1496212	955218	795558	1207748	1550218	994464	983470	1205241	723334	1003470	984464	1195006	1949665	966524	1114804	1174804	1644340	1340446
									
Difference (%)	0,00%	135,80%	176,80%	303,14%	123,11%	267,70%	227,74%	277,75%	218,18%	144,97%	112,75%	158,66%	200,54%	140,69%	128,95%	172,08%	108,04%	157,94%	125,44%	173,40%	249,68%	124,84%	157,83%	138,96%	209,24%	169,02%
							
3DS Hardware	0	71218	-393126	-104126	-147337	-304126	-49126	-604126	95874	95874	95874	295874	95874	-39126	-104126	74775	62540	-4126	-152126	-54126	401030	95874	-67126	-204126	-393126	395873
3DS Mario Land	0	-113289	191768	-19232	-62443	80768	257768	-69232	-19232	-79232	-119232	80768	-219232	-29232	-69232	-62443	-74788	-89232	-97232	80768	-13973	-129232	-46232	-69232	14768	-119233
3DS MarioKart7	0	130517	50830	839830	74397	639830	616830	-60170	189830	39830	-60170	139830	539830	214830	339830	296619	-49059	39830	71830	239830	-205205	-360170	-60170	-260170	-161170	74397
3DS MH Tri G	0	244843	225503	-85497	2157	114503	125503	-235497	-85497	214503	114503	-85497	214503	-55497	14503	2157	14502	214503	-113497	14503	269868	-35497	-155497	-35497	-331497	116742
PS3 FFXIII-2	0	147105	506765	595765	308110	595765	406765	495765	795765	245765	295765	395765	295765	475765	295765	530332	406876	395765	532765	595765	749320	225765	642765	595765	406765	481059
PSV Hardware	0	231244	71014	560014	226680	360014	226014	560014	310014	280014	110014	210014	185014	180014	160014	238915	115569	260014	17014	210014	310269	-119986	143014	10014	337014	153142

Past Predictions Results:
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12/05-12/11 Predictions Results
11/28-12/04 Predictions Results
Prediction League Results 2009-2010

2011 and updated 2009-2011 results incoming.

Nintendo gave the date for third quarter earnings release: Jan 26

I wonder if they will announce that they are expecting a profit since the 3DS out did their own expectations which has to translate to software doing better than expected. Software is where they will make all of their money.

 

[AdventureRacing]

And Vita is undoubtedly going to go through a software drought this year, every system does in those months after launch. The issue is usually how long it lasts. Which is where launching 10 months after the 3DS hurts Sony, because it's easier to see through a software drought when your competitor is going through one as well.

That's basically what i think will hurt them and why i think it's pointless to compare their launch line-ups. Unfortunately for the vita the 3DS already has some of its biggest games already realeased and has a decent size install base. By the time any big vita games are coming out there will probably already be some mroe big games coming out for the 3DS.

 

[bigtroyjon]

I wonder if they will announce that they are expecting a profit since the 3DS out did their own expectations which has to translate to software doing better than expected. Software is where they will make all of their money.

3DS hasn't out done their expectations and it remains to be seen if it actually meets them.

 

[GCX]

I wonder if that was ever a possibility and how they could have feasibly went back to the GBA after the DS.

They had a plan B in case DS would had failed horribly. Basically they would had said "lol we weren't serious with DS" and revealed the next Gameboy. We know that some initial concepts for the GBA successor exist.

 

[bigtroyjon]

Basically they would had said "lol we weren't serious with DS" and revealed the next Gameboy.

Damn, that could have been the most amazing E3 ever and could have provided us with so many troll face gifs they would have lasted a lifetime.

 

[Mpl90]

3DS hasn't out done their expectations and it remains to be seen if it actually meets them.

In Japan, it did. Iwata was expecting the system to reach 4 millions in February, not in December. Don't know about USA and Europe.

 

[Mpl90]

Added drop percentages from last week, and while doing it, I've seen we have two more numbers for last week top 50.

19./22. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2011 - Ketteiban <SPT> (Konami) {2011-12-22} - 17.065 / 51.905 (-51%)

FW = 51.905-17.065 = 34.840

20./26. [PSP] Frontier Gate <RPG> (Konami) {2011-12-22} - 15.800 / 44.443 (-45%)

FW = 44.443-15.800 = 28.643

21./23. [WII] Rhythm Heaven Fever (Nintendo) {2011-07-21}
22./00. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2011 - Ketteiban (Konami) {2011-12-22} - 34.840
23./27. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats (Golden Retriever, Toy Poodle, French Bulldog & New Friends) (Nintendo) {2011-02-26}
24./31. [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience - Boost (Level 5) {2011-11-23}
25./33. [PSP] Pro Evolution Soccer 2012 (Konami) {2011-11-03}
26./00. [PSP] Frontier Gate (Konami) {2011-12-22} - 28.643

Another thing.

No JAPGaf can translate what I posted earlier?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34018057&postcount=260

Please

P.S. No 31-50 for the MC Chart yet?

 

[Chris1964]

Anything that sells a million copies cannot possibly considered a bomb. Even if it was expected to sell 3 million, it's still sold a shitload and garnered a substantial audience.
I think you guys are losing sight of what a bomb really is. Ni no Kuni PS3 &#8212; now that was a bomb.

If Mario Kart 7 sold only 1 million LTD in Japan it wouldn't be just a bomb but a huge bomb. No one would care if Nintendo made money from it.

And why 1 million? 300k is the golden spot. Anything that sells over 300k is a success.

 

[electroplankton]

My bad, Frontier Gate...

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

People....even with the average sale numbers of FF13-2, it was still the biggest PS3 seller in Japan. What does that say about the market to you? I say SE was smart not to have a huge shipment as they must see where the winds are blowing...

By itself, not a lot. If Final Fantasy XIII had sold a third as well as it did, it also would've been the biggest PS3 seller of the year. On the whole, though, PS3's 2011 games are doing better than its 2009 games, though the difference isn't as big as a few weeks back.

A decision to ship fewer XIII-2 wouldn't have been based on the market as a whole, but because it was XIII-2.

 

[Mpl90]

My bad, Frontier Gate...

I thought it would have been worse, especially in its second week...

Amazon Watch:
Armored Core V - 14th
RE Revelations - 20th

The holy trinity is still in top 10, with MK and 3D Land 2nd and 3rd, and MH3G 7th
3 skus of 3DS are in top 20, with the white one 8th... the black and the blue are sold out, offered only at almost 17.000 Yen

Vita Wi-Fi 16th, 3G 76th

The surprise: Rhythm Thief. It's 30th, and it's out on the 19th. Talking about it wit elektroplankton, he thought it was all due to the demo release days ago, alongside RE, MGS. Really, it could do better than we thought. Beyond the Labyrinth is just outside top 100, but considering when preorders began, it went in top 10, it's readying to go really up in the next days.

Shinren Camera is 40th, Gravity Daze is 34th, Theatrhythm is 32nd
Harvest Moon 42nd, Ragnarok Odissey 48th

 

[Cosmonaut X]

And why 1 million? 300k is the golden spot. Anything that sells over 300k is a success.

Ouch! Now that's a callback to classic sales threads from the early DS days

 

[Chris1964]

Media Create Sales: Week 52, 2011 (Dec 26 - Jan 01)

01./01. [3DS] Mario Kart 7 <RCE> (Nintendo) {2011.12.01} (¥4.800) - 109.463 / 1.160.169 (-58%)
02./04. [3DS] Monster Hunter 3G # <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.12.10} (¥5.800) - 100.042 / 985.498 (-35%)
03./02. [PS3] Warriors Orochi 2 # <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.12.22} (¥7.800) - 73.526 / 274.052 (-63%)
04./03. [3DS] Super Mario 3D Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.11.03} (¥4.800) - 68.483 / 1.080.192 (-61%)
05./05. [PS3] Final Fantasy XIII-2 # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.12.15} (¥7.980) - 61.202 / 704.236 (-48%)
06./09. [3DS] Inazuma Eleven Go: Shine / Dark <RPG> (Level 5) {2011.12.15} (¥5.800) - 47.938 / 269.224 (-44%)
07./07. [WII] Just Dance Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.13} (¥5.800) - 33.347 / 453.411 (-66%)
08./06. [WII] Kirby's Return to Dream Land <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.10.27} (¥5.800) - 24.067 / 537.128 (-79%)
09./11. [WII] Wii Party <ETC> (Nintendo) {2010.07.08} (¥4.800) - 22.932 / 2.223.629 (-68%)
10./08. [3DS] SD Gundam G Generation 3D # <SLG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.22} (¥6.090) - 20.427 / 111.300 (-78%)
11./19. [WII] Wii Sports Resort with Remote Plus <SPT> (Nintendo) {2010.11.11} (¥5.800) - 19.999 / 802.974 (-59%)
12./20. [WII] Mario Kart Wii <RCE> (Nintendo) {2008.04.10} (¥5.800) - 19.410 / 3.448.314 (-56%)
13./28. [WII] Go Vacation <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.10.20} (¥5.800) - 19.312 / 181.165
14./00. [PS3] The Idolmaster: Gravure For You! Vol. 3 <ETC> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.29} (¥9.980) - 18.992 / NEW
15./10. [WII] Inazuma Eleven Strikers 2012 Xtreme <SPT> (Level 5) {2011.12.22} (¥4.980) - 18.772 / 103.889 (-78%)
16./14. [WII] Taiko Drum Master Wii: Definitive Edition # <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.23} (¥5.040) - 18.041 / 173.580 (-67%)
17./25. [PSP] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2011.11.03} (¥4.980) - 17.806 / 157.404
18./16. [PS3] Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - Dubbed Edition <ACT> (Square Enix) {2011.12.22} (¥7.980) - 17.394 / 68.549 (-66%)
19./22. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2011 Ketteiban <SPT> (Konami) {2011.12.22} (¥5.250) - 17.065 / 51.905 (-51%)
20./26. [PSP] Frontier Gate <RPG> (Konami) {2011.12.22} (¥5.250) - 15.800 / 44.443 (-45%)
21./21. [WII] Rhythm Heaven: Fever <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.07.21} (¥5.800)
22./17. [NDS] Magician's Quest: Oshare na Mahou Tsukai <ETC> (Konami) {2011.12.10} (¥4.980)
23./23. [3DS] Nintendogs + Cats: French Bulldog / Shiba / Toy Poodle & New Friends <ETC> (Nintendo) {2011.02.26} (¥4.800)
24./18. [NDS] One Piece: Gigant Battle 2 - New World # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.11.17} (¥5.230)
25./15. [WII] Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games <SPT> (Nintendo) {2011.12.08} (¥5.800)
26./34. [PSP] Monster Hunter Freedom 3 (PSP the Best) <ACT> (Capcom) {2011.09.22} (¥2.990)
27./31. [WII] Itadaki Street Wii <TBL> (Square Enix) {2011.12.01} (¥6.090)
28./37. [PSV] Hot Shots Golf: World Invitational <SPT> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2011.12.17} (¥4.980)
29./40. [PSV] Uncharted: Golden Abyss <ADV> (Sony Computer Entertainment) {2011.12.17} (¥5.980)
30./43. [PS3] Mobile Suit Gundam Extreme Vs. <ACT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.01} (¥8.380)
31./12. [PSP] Mahou Shoujo Nanoha A's Portable: The Gears of Destiny # <FTG> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.12.22} (¥5.229)
32./29. [WII] The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2011.11.23} (¥6.800)
33./30. [PS3] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball 2011 Ketteiban <SPT> (Konami) {2011.12.22} (¥6.980)
34./44. [PSV] Dynasty Warriors Next <ACT> (Koei Tecmo) {2011.12.17} (¥6.090)
35./24. [PSP] Little Battlers eXperience: Boost <RPG> (Level 5) {2011.11.23} (¥4.980)
36./49. [PSV] Lord of Apocalypse <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.12.17} (¥5.980)
37./00. [PS3] The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim <RPG> (Bethesda Softworks) {2011.12.08} (¥7.980)
38./32. [NDS] Kirby Mass Attack <ACT> (Nintendo) {2011.08.04} (¥3.800)
39./13. [WII] PokePark 2: Beyond the World <ADV> (Pokemon Co.) {2011.11.12} (¥5.800)
40./41. [3DS] Pokemon Rumble Blast <ACT> (Pokemon Co.) {2011.08.11} (¥4.800)
41./33. [WII] New Super Mario Bros. Wii <ACT> (Nintendo) {2009.12.03} (¥5.800)
42./00. [3DS] The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D <ADV> (Nintendo) {2011.06.16} (¥4.800)
43./47. [PSP] Final Fantasy Type-0 <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.10.27} (¥7.770)
44./00. [PSP] Hatsune Miku: Project Diva Extend <ACT> (Sega) {2011.11.10} (¥5.299)
45./39. [WII] Family Fishing # <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2011.08.04} (¥5.040)
46./00. [PSP] Lord of Apocalypse <RPG> (Square Enix) {2011.12.17} (¥5.980)
47./00. [PS3] World Soccer Winning Eleven 2012 <SPT> (Konami) {2011.10.06} (¥7.980)
48./00. [PS3] Metal Gear Solid HD Edition # <ADV> (Konami) {2011.11.23} (¥5.480)
49./45. [PS3] Shin Kamaitachi no Yoru: 11 Hitome no Suspect <ADV> (Chunsoft) {2011.12.17} (¥6.090)
50./35. [NDS] Pokemon Black / White <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2010.09.18} (¥4.800)

Top 50

WII - 15
PS3 - 10
PSP - 9
3DS - 8
NDS - 4
PSV - 4

SOFTWARE

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |  1.621.000 |  3.417.000 |  1.911.211 | 53.870.000 | 65.527.967 |
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

HARDWARE

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|System | This Week  | Last Week  | Last Year  |     YTD    |  Last YTD  |     LTD     |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  3DS  |    197.952 |    482.200 |            |  4.282.142 |            |   4.282.142 |
|  PS3  |     67.199 |     75.943 |     76.422 |  1.548.895 |  1.586.122 |   7.636.385 |
| PSP # |     62.746 |    101.121 |    108.786 |  2.079.152 |  2.907.124 |  18.729.364 |
|  PSV  |     42.648 |     72.479 |            |    439.986 |            |     439.986 |
|  WII  |     33.208 |     91.176 |     77.307 |    883.583 |  1.674.438 |  12.163.218 |
| NDS # |      5.802 |     14.396 |     99.578 |    657.787 |  2.871.621 |  32.808.487 |
|  360  |      2.453 |      4.245 |      3.708 |    115.548 |    210.826 |   1.536.045 |
|  PS2  |      1.659 |      1.582 |      2.480 |     78.014 |     85.919 |  21.774.106 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  ALL  |    413.667 |    843.142 |    368.281 | 10.085.107 |  9.336.050 |  99.369.733 |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
| DSiLL |      3.356 |      8.470 |     47.798 |    346.735 |  1.440.676 |   2.294.318 |
|  DSi  |      2.418 |      5.894 |     48.039 |    290.329 |  1.204.782 |   5.834.053 |
|  DSL  |         28 |         32 |      3.741 |     20.723 |    226.163 |  18.094.645 |
|  PSP  |     62.746 |    101.121 |     99.703 |  2.063.612 |  2.822.454 |  18.553.400 |
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[AceBandage]

Ouch! Now that's a callback to classic sales threads from the early DS days

I wish I had a product that could sell 300k!

 

[AdventureRacing]

I wish I had a product that could sell 300k!

Lol i remember that one.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Thanks for the top 50, Chris. YoY the software was down of 12 millions games. Ouch.

 

[Chris1964]

2011 was the worst year for Pokemon since it was introduced.

 

[AceBandage]

2011 was the worst year for Pokemon since it was introduced.

Should have made it for iOS 3DS.

 

[Truth101]

2011 was the worst year for Pokemon since it was introduced.

The fad is finally coming to an end.

 

[Mpl90]

Thanks for the top 50, Chris. YoY the software was down of 12 millions games. Ouch.

Already added everything in the OP. Thanks Chris!

Eh, 12 millions lost. It's a transaction year indeed, aggravated by the low number of notable releases on Wii and DS.
And...and last year we had a main Pokemon and a main MH, however.
This year, with the definitive surge of 3DS, especially if it'll have in one year Animal Crossing and Tomodachi, combined with the continued sales of MK and 3D Land and MH, we'll see an obvious increase.

 

[Erethian]

I only just realised that despite having a PSP version Lord of Apocalypse completely underperformed compared to its predecessor.

Fair to say Lord of Arcana didn't exactly leave people awaiting a sequel with bated breath.

 

[Chris1964]

Should have made it for iOS 3DS.

First they should have made something.

 

[DGRE]

2011 was the worst year for Pokemon since it was introduced.

Can you show us the software chart divided by platform for the year, Chris?

 

[Mpl90]

2011 was the worst year for Pokemon since it was introduced.

Pokemon Gray 3DS coming to the rescue.

Spoiler

AND NOT BLACK & WHITE 2 FOR DS, NINTENDO. COME THE FUCK ON, BE LOGIC AND DON'T MAKE WHAT ORGEN REPORTED REAL

 

[Cygnus X-1]

2011 was the worst year for Pokemon since it was introduced.

No games from the main series, no mystery dungeon-sequel, no remakes. It has to be expected, though no mystery dungeon sequel with Pokémons of the White/Black generation has been quite surprising. Maybe before the first half of 2012.

 

[Mpl90]

No games from the main series, no mystery dungeon-sequel, no remakes. It has to be expected, though no mystery dungeon sequel with Pokémons of the White/Black generation has been quite surprising. Maybe before the first half of 2012.

The first half has Pokemon + Nobunaga's Ambition for DS, Spring.

Spoiler

And this is another sign that it's coming. Dairantou Smash Bros. Iconic Musou. Because you know you want it.

 

[starship]

And why 1 million? 300k is the golden spot. Anything that sells over 300k is a success.

Lance and his 300k golden spot...

 

[SmokedMeat]

PSP launched a week earlier than Vita, and on a Sunday instead of a Saturday. So it caught a bit more of the holiday period.

And Vita is undoubtedly going to go through a software drought this year, every system does in those months after launch. The issue is usually how long it lasts. Which is where launching 10 months after the 3DS hurts Sony, because it's easier to see through a software drought when your competitor is going through one as well.

And that drought is extra rough, because if sales aren't good, there's always the worry that some developers might cancel their Vita output, or move it to 3DS.

 

[Celine]

Anything that sells a million copies cannot possibly considered a bomb. Even if it was expected to sell 3 million, it's still sold a shitload and garnered a substantial audience.
I think you guys are losing sight of what a bomb really is. Ni no Kuni PS3 — now that was a bomb.

Tell that to Shenmue /Troll-face.jpg

 

[electroplankton]

Without Mysterious Dungeon, a mainline entry, a remake or something else, it's be difficult to sell a lot. Hope that the Nobunaga's Ambition crossover will sell well so to start another successful franchise.

 

[Celine]

I am not really sure.

It is currently performing near similar to what PSP did back then, and PSP never dropped below 10k. Also, PSV has launched against PSP and 3DS, while PSP only had to face DS.

Can't really compare to PSP, situation is different now.

I believe PSV first 22 weeks won't match (i.e. it will be below ) PSP first 22 weeks and sub 20K ( do I need to go lower? ) weeks are to be expected.

PSP first weeks

 

[Grampa Simpson]

Is anyone running a pool for when the 3DS will surpass the PS3 in lifetime sales in Japan?

 

[StickSoldier]

Pokemon Gray 3DS coming to the rescue.

Spoiler

AND NOT BLACK & WHITE 2 FOR DS, NINTENDO. COME THE FUCK ON, BE LOGIC AND DON'T MAKE WHAT ORGEN REPORTED REAL

I wish they'd hurry up and make Pokemon a full 3D RPG. The same 2D overview of the game has gotten stale, and now that they have the power of the 3DS, it's time for them to take the next step with it as they did with Mario, Zelda, and Metroid.

 

[stilgar]

Is anyone running a pool for when the 3DS will surpass the PS3 in lifetime sales in Japan?

I'm running a pool. It's boring in winter.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Is anyone running a pool for when the 3DS will surpass the PS3 in lifetime sales in Japan?

It's a safe bet saying by the end of the year. When exactly is hard to tell. Maybe the question is if before September or not. Before Golden Week is very unlikely.

 

[BurntPork]

I wish they'd hurry up and make Pokemon a full 3D RPG. The same 2D overview of the game has gotten stale, and now that they have the power of the 3DS, it's time for them to take the next step with it as they did with Mario, Zelda, and Metroid.

The thing is that 3D doesn't add anything to Pokemon. Really, all that it'll do is make development harder, longer, and more expensive. As a result, I would not count on there ever being a full 3D Pokemon.

 

[saichi]

and again - we'll see how things pan out. All i see is undue panic over 3 weeks sales - it's bullshit.

You are changing your point of your argument though.

You were saying PSP outselling VITA during Christmas is a good thing because Sony makes profit from PSP and VITA is at "a MAXIMUM sell through of 500k over the Xmas period". I would have agreed with you if VITA is sold out or in short supply but that was not the case. Wouldn't it be better if Sony sells all the units they shipped before people decide to pick a PSP? If VITA can not get consumers attention away from PSP while it is brand new, what will make it more attractive than PSP down the road?

 

[king zell]

3DS Broke Monthly Sales Record in December

Nintendo 3DS broke Enterbrain's monthly sales record in December. According to Sankei News, the system sold 1,492,931 units over the month. This is the highest single month sales total since Enterbrain started tracking sales in 1997.

Enterbrain's December tracking period covers November 28 through December 25.

3DS has has claimed Enterbrain's top monthly sales spot for seven months running.

PlayStation Vita was the second highest selling system for the month, with 402,794 units. Vita was released on the 17th.

http://andriasang.com/comzkv/3ds_sales_record/

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Not true? I think NDS sold around 1.8M back in Dec 2005.

EDIT: Oh, Enterbrain.

 

[Mpl90]

http://andriasang.com/comzkv/3ds_sales_record/

NO, 3DS IS DOOOOOOOOOMED, REMEMBER?!?!?

Well, here's something in which 3DS obtained to surpass DS.

 

[Takao]

DW NEXT must actually be a decent game if it's hanging on in the top 50.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

The thing is that 3D doesn't add anything to Pokemon. Really, all that it'll do is make development harder, longer, and more expensive. As a result, I would not count on there ever being a full 3D Pokemon.

I don't think it's a huge leap. Already on DS the worlds are in simple 3D, and they already create animated 3D models of the Pokémon for things like the Stadium-type games and 3DS's Pokédex.

 

[Oxx]

Sometimes I don't know if we're talking 3D 3D or 3D 3D.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

If VITA can not get consumers attention away from PSP while it is brand new, what will make it more attractive than PSP down the road?

The easy answer (if not the easy delivery) is a hot Vita game, and for more time to pass since the later major PSP games.

 

[TyRaNtM]

I don't think it's a huge leap. Already on DS the worlds are in simple 3D, and they already create animated 3D models of the Pokémon for things like the Stadium-type games and 3DS's Pokédex.

Pokémon graphics should be upgraded to this:

Yeah, should be in cell shading.