i thought we got numbers between 35k to 40k based on some tweet by sony rep?
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Media Create Sales: Week 8, 2013 (Feb 18 - Feb 24)
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i thought we got numbers between 35k to 40k based on some tweet by sony rep?
The initial interpretation was 4x the numbers from two weeks ago. The revised interpretation is 4x the combined total for the last two weeks, which is ~80K.
Oh I forgot it's also on smartphones,
Still IMO, (portability + physical control + touchscreen control) is what makes the vita version a decent companion to PC version. But saleswise..not really
So, smartphone version can't play online with pc version.
pieatorium
Member
From what I understand phone version is more of a companion app and vita has some (not all) content specific to it's version. PC is definitely the main platform.
Your comment seemed to me that free elsewhere vs having a cost on Vita was the problem. Since it's also free on Vita i would say the fact that it is available elsewhere at all would be the factor (unless thats what you are getting at but then there would be no need to mention free as a problem for Vita).
If they can support it as something that is a quality companion to the PC version it might do well but I think thats a pretty big if.
electroplankton
Banned
Well, I think what many people are missing is that it's an online MMORPG, not like the previous PSortables which were local co-op games (albeit also with online multiplayer).
Presumably a lot of the advantage of playing a game like that on a portable is negated, when you have to go through servers to play with someone else you are right next to, instead of just using ad-hoc.
But who knows? I think this is somewhat uncharted territory. There have been MMORPGs on consoles, but I don't think there have been on portables.
That's why I asked how many people downloaded it, and actually they are currently playing it. I said that Japanese are reluctant because if they still prefer to buy the retail version at more than 4000 yen (regardless the genre, we will see of course a decline with respect to the PSP series), instead of relying on the f2p available on the store...
test_account
XP-39C²
The Smartphone game is not the same game. Unless things changed over the last months, as far as i know the smartphone version is more of a companion game and more about single player, not a MMORPG.
I dont think many people have said that PSO2 is a Vita savior, only that it is a nice addition to the Vita game library.
Good luck with that
you cant stop the analysis and that is the reason for forums.. if you want someone to give permission to write to anyone who wants to share his/her opinion then you should be reading gaming magzine with ur fav writers..
I am not sure if there are many fanboys in Media-Create threads but there are many that want VITA to fail.Wii U is getting same or worse numbers than Vita had at this point and you dont see half the hatred.The only thing that you read is that it will turn the situation like 3DS and it will reach PS2 sales in Japan as soon as the games are start to releasing.Maybe they cant understand that a handheld and a console are 2 completely different things......
electroplankton
Banned
I never read such a bold prediction.
Lord Ghirahim
Member
He might be talking about other forums.
Ruud_Luiten
Member
Vita sales will be around 45k
I read it.I am not rembering if it was in Gaf though but i am pretty sure it has been implied here too.Take a look from all the Media Create threads after WiiU launched or a little before and you will understand.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Based on?
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Well what did you think these threads are for lol. Only fanboys use sales as a way to boast about their console and its superiority. Real gamers just play the games they want to play.
Nintendo fanboys want the Vita to fail and vice versa. Its a thing thats been going on for years.
I admit though there are many people here who are genuinely interested in how the gaming industry operates and seeing how each game sells is fascinating especially in countries where cultures are so different like Japan.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Sammy Samusu
Member
So Famitsu didn't release an early report. Interesting.
Now stating the obvious somehow became wishing PSV to fail? I´m really concerned by your persecution complex because PSV is regarded to do very bad by most not biased people as well not only other fans, that´s because even Dreamcast sold better in the same timeframe be it hardware-wise but especially in th software department.
@Celestine
Do you actually read Media Create threads? Everyone says that WiiUs sales are pretty unhealthy and saying that million selling franchises might boost sales is just common sense. Also I doubt there was any comment that WiiU will sell like PS2.
But as disapointing WiiU sales are PSV did even worse in the same timeframe.
12th week:
PSV 600k
WiiU 800k
It didn´t even suffice to be a handheld.
To conclud my post. I´m positive that PSV will have it´s best selling non holiday period from March-June since launch, due to the price-drop and software release schedule.
StreetsAhead
Member
My heart is warmed.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Famitsu typically release an early report if sales of something are notable.
Herb Alpert
Banned
come on guys... This is really getting ridiculous...
when they do it's because of some extraordinary news (meaning out of ordinary)
I can't think of a situation where Vita sales are not notable. Even a disappointing 44k would be notable.
Opus Angelorum
Member
Which is why it's interesting they haven't.
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
This is one thing i do not understand. Wiiu gets it's fair share of hatred but it's not even close to the hatred that vita receives. I think people just dislike Sony and not necessarilynecessarily the actual product. 599$ still stings.
It was in a media create thread not too long ago. I remember metalslimer heavily disagreeing too.
22k might not be though!
Mind you, I suppose unexpectedly low sales would be notable, in their own way.
I never said that.What i said is that people started the whole ''Vita is doomed'' and other things waaayyyy early while with WiiU they are all like ''nah the system will be just fine just wait for this and that and then BANG!!''.Too me it became obvious that Vita wont have a good lifecycle after TGS.Also why do you bring Dreamcast up?I can bring Dreamcast too and say that at this time it had better numbers than WiiU in USA and maybe worldwide(i am not so sure about the last one).One thing is for sure that the systems are selling very bad.
First of all my nickname is Celestial
Second i said that either WiiU is selling like Vita or worse.It seems that it was the first.Do you think that 200k will do such a big difference?
Also Vita fall under 10k after 17 weeks in the market while WiiU fell this week under 10k and has 12 weeks in the market
I just point it out since you are like to be precise with the numbers.
EDIT:Also because you are writing about how people are talking about obvious and common sense and you also doubt my comment that many are stating tha WiiU will sell better than PS2 in Japan take a look at what you wrote in this thread.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48790254&postcount=1327
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48728814&postcount=1185
You are 100%sure not even predicting that NSMBU will outsell every PS3 and PS4 game.Predicting that WiiU will be next console of Japan easily at his point?
This doesnt sound to me like common sense or stating the obvious.
Sammy Samusu
Member
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/03/05/soul-sacrifice-includes-30-day-playstation-plus-trial-in-japan/
As mentioned before, buy Soul Sacrifice and get 30 days of PSN+.
I didn't know about this:
As mentioned before, buy Soul Sacrifice and get 30 days of PSN+.
I didn't know about this:
Is this a first for Sony?Sony will also release Soul Sacrifice on a network download cards which contains a code you can redeem for the game.
metalslimer
Member
Sony would have been smarter spending all of this money they are blowing on Soul Sacrifice to get God Eater 2 Vita exclusive.
Most people, including me, expect Wii U to pick up. Wii U has the backing of their own multi-millions selling franchises compared to Sony's Vita. The question should be, to what extent? There lies the possibility of Nintendo 1st party losing its lacklustre. With Wii, there's the novelty of motion-gaming, people are willing to pay the price for this new experience supported by Nintendo's 1st party. Wii U's gamepad wasn't an incentive enough for them to take the plunge.
It's never that easy to speculate and I think people should be braced for some disappointment, Nintendo 1st party may only achieved a small fraction of sales comparatively with the Wii U. Of course it's not an indication of their quality, it's just that it is locked behind the price of the console. Also, I wish both Nintendo fans and Sony fans would get along.
Well I guess after Monster Hunter jumped ship, they could never guarantee God Eater wouldn't in the future. It may be too little too late, but you can't blame them for wanting to push something they have full control over instead
BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO
Junior Member
I think they should have did both. I think they should have made that one piece game a timed exclusive as well. One piece pirate warrior 2 a vita timed exclusive with a orange one piece special edition vita bundle.
Didn't they do that with PSPgo? I know they did it in america.
Magicpaint
Member
Well if they get the ball rollin' with SS then at least that's something that would be their own. SS may not be the game but it's about time SCEJ starts creating new high profile IPs that they can always bank on.
I quoted and answered PsychoMantis with the first half of my post. Also I mentioned Dreamcast because it seemed that he thought the criticism of PSVs sales performance is unwarranted and just something that fans of other systems do, while in truth PSVs bad sales actually are acknowledged and mentioned by every informed and not biased gamer.
Again there is nothing wrong in saying million selling franchises might boost WiiUs sales, this doesn´t mean it will beat Wiis sales performance. Also please compare of what kind of sales potential the supposed software releases actually could have.
In PSVs first year games like MGS Collection, Persona4 and Miku have been highlighted as games that will push hardware, the best selling ones are games that barely sold over 200k units, obviously there is quite a difference between these games and games like a potential Mario Kart.
Therefore there is a notable difference.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Amen. I can't believe some are beating the same drum after Stump's warning, particularly the juniors.
So, you're the only one that is pointing that the right translation is the two last weeks x4. I've been discussing with a friend about the translation and he said that is just two weeks ago.
I believe you, but all the blogs and other translations are saying another thing. So could you please show where is the misunderstanding?
Sony should at least make a PSV GE2 special bundle.
DragonSworne
Banned
There is a reason why no one talks about 360 in Japan anymore in these topics.
As long as there are 2 sides that have different opinions, you'll have your reasoned debates, good arguments, and a whole of people embarrassing themselves.
Until the outcome is crystal clear, I suggest we continue to try to make the discuss good and ignore people that project and have persecution complexes.
I think we all will now where vita will stand in the next 2 months. After that we can move on to Wii U and the PS4 launch. Hopefully Vita will make it.
Obviously you are confusing the higly successful PS2 with PS3 and the not yet released PS4. Regarding NSMBU, yes I think it´s highly likely it will get there, on PS3 only FFXIII sold a quantity that will take some years to surpass but I´m positive it will reach that benchmark eventually, while all other PS3 software likely will be surpassed by the end of 2014. It might be too early to judge PS4 but I think it´s realistic to expect that FF will be again at around 2milion units at best and that it isn´t likely that any other PS4 software will outsell Final Fantasy in Japan.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
Woah there cowboy.
I never said that using facts is similar to wishing the failure of PSV.
My post wasn't specifically targeted at anyone just the tendencies of fanboys on either side.
Persecution complex???? Do you understand what this means....I don't see how this has any relation?
I am guessing you misunderstood me. You must have thought that in my previous post I was referring to all the posters who were downplaying the Vita as nintendo fanboys. That was not what I was saying.
I don't need anyone to tell me how bad PSV is doing. I can see it with my own two eyes with all the sales data on these threads. In fact I would argue that someone who does not think that PSV is doing bad is delusional.
Making a statement that NSMBU will outsell any PS4 is crazy. We know nothing about the PS4's software selling power and its Japanese support.
Your statement might make more sense if it was under the assumption that PS4 will be like PS3 software wise.
We know the WiiU is no Wii. NSMBU has sold 468,000 so far. Lets assume that the PS4's best selling game is FF and assume its LTD is 2,000,000
Lets also assume that the WiiU will be on sale in Japan for another 5 years. Therefore it would need to average 306,400 a year. We have no idea if that is viable at this point in time. Are the legs of NSMBU going to be like previous NSMB's. I don't know but to make it seem like a fact that NSMBU will outsell all other ps3/4 software is premature.
You seemed to have corrected that with your most recent post saying 'highly likely' instead of 'will'. I agree it is highly likely.
Also I find it frankly laughable that you think that the WiiU will be Japan's primary console easily when its struggling to find decent third party support and its sales are wondering below 10k. Dismissing the PS4 also seems far too early as we don't even know the price nor the offerings.
Can you quote some of these posts you are talking about? Because it seems you think anyone with a certain console preference and also dares to talk about bad sales wishes PSV to die.
I am not confusing anything.Overall i think you are confusing WiiU with 3DS and you expect a same turn-around for it.You cant compare a console with a handheld neither the console games with the handhelds games even if we are talking about the same franchise.