pieatorium
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Were there even any dates for the things shown other than MGS 2/3?
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Media Create Sales: Week 9, 2012 (Feb 27 - Mar 04)
- Thread starter Chris1964
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Yup. It's a collection of video's announcing MGS HD releasing the 28th of June, Phantasy Star Online 2, Super Robot Wars Vita and uhh... oh a project from Inafking.
Edit: Vita has two "big" titles for June now. Persona 4 the Golden and MGS HD. Hmmm.
slaughterking
Member
Needs more PS2 ports.
Smiles and Cries
Member
such a sexy hardware being wasted.
what the hell happened to Sony's goldenboy pull on 3rd Parties?
Was the GameCube this bad in Japan?
what the hell happened to Sony's goldenboy pull on 3rd Parties?
Was the GameCube this bad in Japan?
electroplankton
Banned
Sorry for asking, I thought Sony was having a conference like Nintendo's one in September. Was this event even advertised? If they announced nothing here, I feel bad for Vita...
OrangeGrayBlue
Member
Sticking with my prediction of 9,200 next week.
The gamecube was performing better at this point in time.
edit- I lied. Gamecube was doing worse at week 10, but it receives a huge boost around week 15, at which point Vita will be tracking lower. Page 10 of this thread (50 ppp!) has a chart.
smiles and cries said:
The gamecube was performing better at this point in time.
edit- I lied. Gamecube was doing worse at week 10, but it receives a huge boost around week 15, at which point Vita will be tracking lower. Page 10 of this thread (50 ppp!) has a chart.
It was the Vita Game Heaven "event" they announced a week or two back.
http://andriasang.com/con05a/vita_heaven/
It's more like Nintendo Direct, except more amateurish and without much content.
Phantasy Star was dated for 2013. No month though. It looked really early, low framerates and the like.
No. MGS HD is not a big title. The two big Vita titles for June are Persona 4 The Golden and Gundam SEED Battle Destiny.
This is very much true but it already was that way on PS2. First used copies usually turn up only days after launch. Of course then the used prices are still very close to the original but it gets worse over time when the number of used copies circulating increases, just as you further describe.
What I'm not sure is how it could have gotten much worse in this gen. It already was pretty bad in 2002/2003 when I was in Japan.
Edit: What could have made it worse is that since the PS3 is too expensive for most casual gamers the share of core gamers, who are more likely to buy at launch or buy used copies, increased. OPM might be a trend changer though as it is the PS3's biggest success at the new price point which now approaches being affordable for casuals.
What makes it worse this generation is that big core games have lower overall user base, some have gotten more expensive, and there's generally less people buying the sort of games which were very popular on the PS1 and PS2. This makes the used game problem much more of a problem for certain genres.
Smiles and Cries
Member
maybe Sony thinks the hardware is future proof and they can just flow through this dry spell for a year or two until the major games can turn things around
can a 1 year old hardware suddenly skyrocket into Heaven?
I stand corrected. MGS HD won't be a big seller then? I did see the whole discussion about MGS SE 3D on the last page but me thinks I shouldn't read it
AceBandage
Banned
Well, that's what they did with the PSP.
Except that betting on another MH scenario is very dangerous.
Gundam Seed Battle, Persona 4 and MGS Collection in June.
http://andriasang.com/con08l/gundam_seed_date/
At least in June it looks good for Vita.
http://andriasang.com/con08l/gundam_seed_date/
At least in June it looks good for Vita.
I stand corrected. MGS HD won't be a big seller then? I did see the whole discussion about MGS SE 3D on the last page but me thinks I shouldn't read it
MGS HD didn't even sell 100k on the PS3 in Japan. No reason it would do significant numbers on the Vita. Gundam and Persona both have the possibility of selling over 100k, which is a start. But this is really the sort of start the hardware needed at launch, not 6 months after launch.
slaughterking
Member
June is not a complete wasteland is what you wanted to say.
AceBandage
Banned
I think that some of the blame comes from the small event Iwata held at the low point in the 3DS's history, where they basically just said "And here's a bunch of awesome games you all want" and showed off MH3/4 and some SE games and Fire Emblem and a bunch of other games.
After that, sales started to pick up pretty well and continued to rise.
Are you suggesting Fargo should announce Wasteland 2 for Vita on his Kickstarter?
Agreed. Next few months are going to be interesting.
That happened in September (just prior to TGS), and was a live conference. I'd be more concerned if Sony held a live stage presentation for what they announced today, haha.
Smiles and Cries
Member
if only MH4 was not already heading to 3DS with a possibility that its being heavy on the 3D functions
I wonder what Nintendo thought about today's event for Vita
Capcom need to pull a "lets save Gamecube by putting some Biohazard on it" mercy port for Vita
did Sony burn some bridges I just don't understand the lack of support
You could it also put it that way.
The Vita event the day after Capcoms Betrayalton was kinda lame though....and it was live.
AceBandage
Banned
That's true, but it was also desperately needed by Nintendo.
Just like it is by Sony. E3 is still months away, and TGS even longer.
They need something NOW.
I don't think it has so much to do with Sony, as it does with a much more aggressive Nintendo.
Yes it was, I'd say Game Heaven was better than TGS last year for Sony. At least the focus here was on games.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Vita should have been delayed a year or at least launch summer 2012
Around what numbers do we think Gundam Seed Battle Destiny will do on the Vita? Considering Gundam's popularity + re-airing of Gundam Seed in HD, could it reach 150k?
I'm more puzzled at SE's absence tbh.
I'm more puzzled at SE's absence tbh.
And launch with what?
Box of Bunnies
Banned
Yeah, give the 3DS the full 5mill+ lead. That'd work out well.
I don't think anyone would have batted an eye at what was shown on the webcast (if you can call it that) if it weren't for the fact that the Vita is travelling so badly right now.
People expected more from Vita Game Heaven because they're looking for Sony to respond, some assurance that the system has a strong future. And it hasn't come, and presumably there won't be another opportunity until E3 or TGS.
Of course this is the same Sony that let the PSP fall to pieces in the US, so I guess it shouldn't be any surprise. And they weren't exactly rushing to give the PSP a lift in its first few years in Japan.
People expected more from Vita Game Heaven because they're looking for Sony to respond, some assurance that the system has a strong future. And it hasn't come, and presumably there won't be another opportunity until E3 or TGS.
Of course this is the same Sony that let the PSP fall to pieces in the US, so I guess it shouldn't be any surprise. And they weren't exactly rushing to give the PSP a lift in its first few years in Japan.
electroplankton
Banned
Well, even Nintendo Direct events had more news.
To me, it seems Sony does not have anything to show otherwise I don't understand the reasons to not even say "Capcom is working on MH" or something.
To me, it seems Sony does not have anything to show otherwise I don't understand the reasons to not even say "Capcom is working on MH" or something.
Smiles and Cries
Member
everything they have now and coming in June at least it would not be seen as if its struggling to get games
I think we are over looking a simple problem: TOO MANY PLATFORMS not enough Devs
everyone is busy working on something else
PSO is a strong IP so it would do well in assuring consumers that Vita still has some 3rd party support left. There really doesn't seem to be any new unknown games till E3...
frankie_baby
Member
Maybe just maybe, capcom arent working in monster hunter for vita
mugurumakensei
Member
why? They're already heavily supporting 3DS with Kh 3D, theatrhytm, and DQ.
AceBandage
Banned
And that is my entire problem with Sony. It's like the expect to succeed simply because of who they are. Not what they do.
The PSP sold well in spite of Sony, not because of them. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they were almost intentionally sabotaging it.
The horrible marketing, the lack of first party system sellers (or hell, really any games) and just overall treating it like it didn't matter.
I think we all understand why they haven't said this, by this point.
Thats the key. nintendo are being aggressive and being pro active.
Opus Angelorum
Member
We do?
AceBandage
Banned
electroplankton
Banned
Yeah, that's why I said that probably Sony has nothing to show.
But it seems strange that it has REALLY nothing. Hatsune Miku? Kenka Bancho? Some tie-in (on PSP some of them sold pretty well)? Did third-parties have something only for the launch?
Smiles and Cries
Member
at this point 3DS will have a full 5mil lead by summer 2012 anyway :|
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I'm guessing SE and Capcom were what that dude was talking about it regards to cancelling games for the Vita and moving them on to 3DS, unless. It seems more and more likely to be the case unless either of them start announcing something for the vita.