Gambit2483
Member
Or you could, you know...prove what you're stating instead of making obtuse generalizations
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Metacritic has pledged to introduce stricter moderation after “abusive and disrespectful" Horizon: Forbidden West DLC review bombing this weekend.
Dr. Claus
Banned
The Bayonetta 3 Reviews, for one. Where they actively whine about the sexual orientation of Bayo not being gay? That is just the most recent of a long line of trash. But please, keep trying to defend cancerous sites like that and feigning ignorance.
Not surprised to see you defending the removal of critical reviews related to your favorite plastic box.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Projection and excuses are all you have, isn't it?
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Dr. Claus
Banned
And? There are still thousands of reviews that are legitimate from folks who played the game. Or are you going to keep cherry picking reviews to dismiss all critical comments?
Aenima
Member
And for a site like metacritic, would be much better to have a system that actually makes sure the users played the game, like Steam Reviews have. And not a trust me bro system.
The APIs are done, you can link your PSN, Xbox Live, Steam, Epic Games, UbiPlay, etc accounts and they would know what games was actually played in those accounts. GOG Galaxy can track the games from all those accounts. Metacritic just had to create a system to let users link they accounts. As it is, they user reviews are just a cesspoll of warriors.
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I want MC to start verifying people who actually PLAYED the game (possibly by linking their account) instead of just letting the user review section roam free.
That's much better than defending these people who haven't played the game and are just whining in the comment section.
Golgo 13
The Man With The Golden Dong
This is a bullshit move by Metacritic and clearly a virtue signal. People have been review bombing on Metacritic for YEARS for a variety of reasons, including political stuff. And now because allegedly they can pinpoint a “LGBTQ+” relationship being criticized (although that is not the only complaint in the review bombing) they vow to “take action”.
I actually think Metacritic User reviews are a great way for developers to see how games are received by the public, and not just gaming journalists.
Have a game that ships with poor performance or intrusive DRM? Metacritic user reviews will let you know - whereas so called “journalists” ignore those issues completely. Make no mistake, this is a form of censorship, and people championing this - you might be next.
I actually think Metacritic User reviews are a great way for developers to see how games are received by the public, and not just gaming journalists.
Have a game that ships with poor performance or intrusive DRM? Metacritic user reviews will let you know - whereas so called “journalists” ignore those issues completely. Make no mistake, this is a form of censorship, and people championing this - you might be next.
delfrickintree
Banned
Thank you, what ive been trying to say this whole time
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
So what's the difference between then & now?
People who didn't blink twice about are suddenly outraged for no reason
Other than every company pandering to it and the constant need to make a character come out as something?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Gambit2483
Member
One reviewer, on one site didn't like the way the STORY turned out between the Protagonist and a Side Character...Really?
Look, I'm a defender of truth. I don't give two shits about sites like Kotaku or Polygon or their agendas...but sometimes the "other side" is just as bad as their crap.
This is is not an industry narrative.
HoodWinked
Member
That's a new one, corporate bootlicking because they are actually deluded into believing this empty virtue signaling.
Review bombing is the result of feckless cunts of the gaming media that are failing to do their job and actually calling this stuff out.
Review bombing is the result of feckless cunts of the gaming media that are failing to do their job and actually calling this stuff out.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Reviewers are the ones being pandered to
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Exactly and thats why it stands out more and why people bitch about it.
People aren't moaning for no reason, they have shrug it off as nothing time after time again and some even supported it and now they're moaning because their tolerance is wearing thin.
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hemo memo
You can't die before your death
I said someone. Not all reviews are genuine not even from critics. I don’t want MC to limit the freedom of user reviews because anything you say against gay people stupidly considers homophobic. Only in a western woke mentality that a girl living in a post apocalyptic world shooting robots an experiencing near death constantly to save the world would think.. hmm let me explore my sexuality. For fuck sake.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
Yep Metacritic can burn for all I care. Only opinion that matters is your own. I can easily tell trash from treasure game to game.
Like reviews back in the day used to mean something but most cases it's just a bunch of shills lording over big name games that have more often then not been paid off.
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I really don't see the need to remotely care about a fictitious character's sexual orientation. Has nothing to do with the actual game. I think it says a lot about people that get riled up that the image they built on these characters and that their waifu is ruined are just symptoms of a much larger problem. Wish people would grow up and move on from sexual nonsense.
Instead of caring about the game it's OMG MANFACE GIRL ONLY LIKES GIRLS AM ANGRY AAAAAGGGHHHH.
Like give me a break.
Guilty_AI
Member
Depends on how the review system works. You need stuff like proof of ownership, good scoring metrics, maybe additional details like time played, and so on.
If its a free-for-all like metacritic it will rarely work as intended.
nkarafo
Member
Then why is it in the game?
It's the other way around. It's not like the players care about the sexual orientation of the character, it's the fact the developers do and spend the time and effort to make sure you also know.
It's like you said: "Has nothing to do with the game". Therefore developers don't do it to make the game better, they do it to virtue signal.
MagiusNecros
Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
I think you answered your own question in that it's the devs agenda to write out their own fanfic to virtue signal(to a very small minority or just for themselves) and people don't like it and shove it down everyone's throat anyway.
For all intents and purposes it shouldn't even be in the game given it has no bearing on gameplay or the overarching story as a whole.
Guilty_AI
Member
The real blasphemy is ever remotely consider Aloy to be waifu material.
Gambit2483
Member
Phase
Member
The dream that once was.
delfrickintree
Banned
Ban official releases make games open source only, that way nobody is even able to complain
TommyCronin6969
Member
So now they care all of a sudden and they put their foot down for review bombing new dlc for a game that's been out for over a year now. How dare people engage in the 0-10 scale and use the lower end of such numbers. If you accept the 10s you gotta accept the 0s.
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Dynasty8
Member
This should go both ways, go after outlets like Wired for their obvious review bombing and remove them from the overall critic scores.
Would also be great if the people reviewing had to connect their Xbox, PSN, Nintendo and/or Steam accounts for proof that they actually played the game and for how long. But that might be too technical, but it's possible and might be the best solution.
Would also be great if the people reviewing had to connect their Xbox, PSN, Nintendo and/or Steam accounts for proof that they actually played the game and for how long. But that might be too technical, but it's possible and might be the best solution.
delfrickintree
Banned
Are you fucking retarded? It has to be 10 years
HoodWinked
Member
probably someone where English isn't their first language judging on the sentence structure, kind of a bad metric to use to dismiss someone on. I mean how good are you at commenting in another language.Now people are review bombing the DLC over Metacritic's plans to stop review bombing.
Couldn't even take the time to spell check "propaganda".
I'm starting to side with the people who are arguing to delete Metacritic entirely.
Laptop1991
Member
Getting real reviews is a good thing, not blatant review bombing, but it doesn't help when Amazon and Netflix etc are doing the same thing with their 10 out of 10 shill reviews on sites to protect their own products and rep,
Steam is still the best for me, also if the game is broken but still a good game, then reviews should point that out.
Steam is still the best for me, also if the game is broken but still a good game, then reviews should point that out.
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ZoukGalaxy
Member
Seriously, I'm tired of this woke shit, politics and the mandatory LGBT checklist in our videogames to please 0,000001% of the humanity.
Review bombing is not fair for a game but apparently the only way to let them know to stop the politics in games, damn it. And moderation is even worse, so now you MUST agree with questionable choice or you get censored. Awesome.
Review bombing is not fair for a game but apparently the only way to let them know to stop the politics in games, damn it. And moderation is even worse, so now you MUST agree with questionable choice or you get censored. Awesome.
Iced Arcade
Member
Yeah I haven't played attention to user review averages in decades. Was always toxic.
Dr. Claus
Banned
And let's be honest. The only people in this thread who are defending this are ideologues whose politics feel attacked and console warriors.
Metacritic was always a joke and is only ever brought up by children who need validation for their purchases or console warriors.
delfrickintree
Banned
Honestly theres been a good mix. Some people want diluted reviews some want absolute reign. Others want the freedom to shitpost (me)
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
They cant remove them or moderate them too much because they want the site traffic
Rush2112
Member
Probably because some extremist gender identity group started making threats against them. No one likes being sued for “promoting hate speech on their platform.” I remember when the same shit happened to TLOU II and no one cared. Things have changed last few years.
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nial
Member
I do, it isn't fun and you can't leave it.
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delfrickintree
Banned
Spread your wings and fly away
Once you lose the indoctrinated filter we all are raised with, real freedom of thought occurs
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El Pistolero
Banned
I need to sort out my thoughts regarding representation in art, in general, and video-games in particular, but I think that this controversy is part of a larger issue: The emphasis on scores, from critics and users, to the point of affecting developers' bonuses. This obsession feeds tribalism, which in turn morphs into review bombing (not that all those who review bomb do it because of their allegiance to a platform; but a decent chunk does). The system fosters the very attitudes that it pretends fighting against.
Now, regarding the case of Horizon in particular, there seems to me that there is a case of a bit too much from Sony: Ellie, in TLOU, and now Aloy? Where is the franchise with the heterosexual woman as a protagonist? Why do women have to be lesbians almost necessarily at this point? A normal woman would be uninteresting somehow? The next time a black man is adopted as a lead, I expect him to be gay or bisexual! The paradox here is that media companies and pressure groups portray different sexualities as being somehow more exciting, which is weird, and yet claim that they want to be perceived as absolutely normal. Can't have it both ways, imo.
Now, regarding the case of Horizon in particular, there seems to me that there is a case of a bit too much from Sony: Ellie, in TLOU, and now Aloy? Where is the franchise with the heterosexual woman as a protagonist? Why do women have to be lesbians almost necessarily at this point? A normal woman would be uninteresting somehow? The next time a black man is adopted as a lead, I expect him to be gay or bisexual! The paradox here is that media companies and pressure groups portray different sexualities as being somehow more exciting, which is weird, and yet claim that they want to be perceived as absolutely normal. Can't have it both ways, imo.
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Phase
Member
The problem comes when people think their sexual preference is a virtue and therefore include it in everything they do. It's not a virtue and nobody cares.