Screaming Meat
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If we were going to see him at all, I'd have imagined it would only be towards the end.
Did you watch the interview?
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If we were going to see him at all, I'd have imagined it would only be towards the end.
Did you watch the interview?
No i did not but i thought Zero would be one of the main baddies and now they reveal that we won't see much of him? the fuck?
Wow there gotta be more to it, i have faith in Kojima. What are you hiding Kojimaaaaaa??
Mexen
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Screaming Meat
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Don't do this to yourself, man. What I took from it was that the majority of his appearance will be tape based ("The Man Who Sold The World") with perhaps some kind of final face-to-face confrontation. Remember, the main mystery surrounding Zero is his location.
Jim said that the reason Konami weren't willing to pay him much is because he doesn't have much actual "screen time". They said he'll be heard a lot, but rarely seen.
What do you mean "Don't do this to yourself"? you really think the whole story is just behind cassette tapes? there gotta be more to it, we have seen nothing yet and the fact that Zero is barely seen in the game is pretty wow. I stand to my theory that the main baddie will be
Solid Snake
Graphics Horse
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Tell us what you were expecting Sn4ke. Were you expecting a fist fight with Zero or something?
Screaming Meat
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Read into things that aren't there. It'll only lead to disappointment.
No, I don't think it'll all be on cassette tapes, I reckon the majority of Zero's development and speaking parts will be. I think there will be one major confrontation with Zero (pun intended) which they will build up with tapes, occasional references by other characters, and just maybe a couple of very quick cut-to scenes peppered throughout the game.
It's not "wow" to me, it's pretty much what I would expect. Zero's greatest character trait post MGS3 is his mystery. If I were making TPP, I would hold on to that till the last possible minute so the reveal has as much impact as possible.
Your theory is cool but I highly doubt it. Do you mean "final" rather than "main"?
Screaming Meat
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Yeah i mean final
That's certainly a possibility; a remote one, but still. Zero is definitely the main baddie though, with Eli potentially acting as his "Starscream".
I reckon Skullface is a big fat red herring. I'd put money on him being the second or third boss encounter (after
the encounter with The Skulls and the optional Quiet fight
Well, there has to be a fist fight, he was in the SAS and he did operations with The Boss....
Nightengale
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Zero, to me, had always been about his machinations rather than him as an individual.
When Peace Walker had scant references to Zero, until that very final twist, that to me, is fundamentally how I see Zero's core portrayal, and I kinda expect to see that continue in TPP.
Personally, I expect Zero to be referenced a lot, but my own 'assumed' expectations of it is that we will mostly see Zero from the perspective of another character talking about what he's doing, but we will not see Zero, until the very end of the MGSV TPP, and even then, I don't expect Big Boss to come face to face with Zero.
I expect something along the lines of :
- BB reaches Zero's location, but he's not there. All that's left is a recording/call to Zero.
- BB reaches Zero's location, but they're separated by a huge distance, have their talk, and Zero vanishes once more.
When Peace Walker had scant references to Zero, until that very final twist, that to me, is fundamentally how I see Zero's core portrayal, and I kinda expect to see that continue in TPP.
Personally, I expect Zero to be referenced a lot, but my own 'assumed' expectations of it is that we will mostly see Zero from the perspective of another character talking about what he's doing, but we will not see Zero, until the very end of the MGSV TPP, and even then, I don't expect Big Boss to come face to face with Zero.
I expect something along the lines of :
- BB reaches Zero's location, but he's not there. All that's left is a recording/call to Zero.
- BB reaches Zero's location, but they're separated by a huge distance, have their talk, and Zero vanishes once more.
Screaming Meat
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I'd go with this.
Graphics Horse
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Pretty much he's basically meant to be in hiding until he's found at the end of MGS4.
I don't think it'll work if they tease it too many times when there can be no ultimate resolution to it in this game.
GHound
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Barring any mind melting twists.
"Haha! The prequels were set in an alternate universe all along! DID YOU RIKE IT?!"
Wouldn't even be mad.
SyberWolf
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ya what if they decide to say "f*ck it lets rewrite the MGS history and the MGS4 ending"
so that they can start fresh with the series.
like a franchise reboot all done in the fox engine.
No thanks.
Necrojection
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Then we can finally get Raiden as our protagonist in MGS3!
I stand by my theory that Skull Face will be an early boss in the game, he'll get killed (?) and what happens next is that, despite his death, he will be a recurring character.
Only seen by Big Boss. Possibly hallucinating through his horn. Tyler Durden style. I think that would explain why we've never really seen Skull Face communicate with anyone but Big Boss ever since GZ.
Only seen by Big Boss. Possibly hallucinating through his horn. Tyler Durden style. I think that would explain why we've never really seen Skull Face communicate with anyone but Big Boss ever since GZ.
Graphics Horse
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I don't think that's really the case even if the theory turns out to be true.
We've seen SF arriving on a helipad with his crew, Snake riding with SF and his crew, Snake meeting him upside down which
is meant to be really early on
The only one which looks weird is the obvious one on Mother base.
Love Deterrence
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Kojima said that Zero will play a role in the game and his relationship with Big Boss would be portrayed but it won't be the focus of the story. I expect the game to mention Zero quite a bit, especially through cassette tapes, but I think the on-screen enemy throughout the game will be someone entirely different.
If that was Paz in the trailer, I suspect it will be her that gathers intel on Zero and brings it to Snake.
If that was Paz in the trailer, I suspect it will be her that gathers intel on Zero and brings it to Snake.
I should have expanded on this. Knowing MGSV will be a long game, all of those scenes could still be "early game", before his death.
Marty-esque
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Could the upside down scenes be a hallucination too?
LowParry
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First rule of Metal Gear...
Kenzodielocke
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yeah, it looks like a huge stone hand (which is basically his mechanical arm) is holding him.
That scene could be real, but who says Big Boss is being held by Skull Face there? In that particular scene, Skull Face could be a hallucination while Big Boss is alone.
That scene with Snake upside down got leaked by a previewer, at least it sounds very similar.
Obvious spoiler warning.
Obvious spoiler warning.
It's actually Kid Mantis who holds Snake up like that. It ends with Skull Face and Mantis flying or driving away with the new Metal Gear.
SzczwanyGapa
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I wonder if Snake wears all those silly hats even in the cutscenes.
This is awesome.
MGS4 fan-made trailer in the style of the MGSV E3 2015 trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDhgftXVxS0
MGS4 fan-made trailer in the style of the MGSV E3 2015 trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDhgftXVxS0
Kenzodielocke
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Man, I really don't like Hayter's voice in MGS4.
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
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Xpike
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Zero is still alive and well in MGS4 and his plan completely came to fruition and almost ruined the world. There was no way Big Boss would ever see him in MGSV.
Graphics Horse
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He does. Not that one though.
Love Deterrence
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Mexen
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Where is Zero during The Shadow Moses incident?
Edit:
Yeah! I think it was well done. I enjoyed it.
Edit 2: Thought it was my phone but now that Kinde mentioned it, sound could have been better, if that's what he menat. Still a good watch.
Edit:
Yeah! I think it was well done. I enjoyed it.
Edit 2: Thought it was my phone but now that Kinde mentioned it, sound could have been better, if that's what he menat. Still a good watch.
Where he always is, in the shadows.
The audio for the speaking voices is jacked, but overall it's not that bad.
Jawmuncher
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So end of July would be the last hope for a MGSV Bundle to be announced right? As in the red special edition one.
Marty-esque
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It would cool if there was a flashback to when Paz meets Zero face to to face.
me too.
To answer your question seriously though, by the Time of MGS1 the AI's were in complete control, and zero wasn't there any more, so to spaek.
Me too, but after peace walker, where i felt Kojima went overboard and turned the Boss into a mary sue, i'd worry he would ruin it. So i think it's best to just leave it up to the imagination.
Also, sometimes it's best to leave thing mysterious, cause it'll never by what we want it to be.
I don't believe he has.
Screaming Meat
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I feel with the boss, who already being an awesome character in 3 (and my favourite MGS character in general) then in peace walker through the cassettes with Strangelove (and to a lesser extent Eva) Kojima went overboard with teling us just how super amazing she was, making her feel like less of a rounded character.
When was this taken.?
Jimmyfenix
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wew lad
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